McKinnon

I can't believe there is a thread about Mckinnon.

I can't honestly remember and error from the guy apart from the 2 tonight. He is injury prone, that's for sure, but he deserves to be in fullback any day of the week.
 
@tiger05 said:
@happy tiger said:
I remember Moltzen trial at fullback , its like a recurring nightmare Titans game , Broncos game saw enough thanks mate pass Lets find someone from another club NOW PLEASE MACDONNELL

No problems with that but the McKinnon experiment has to end.

It will end at the end of the season. Brown is the next best option and he's being overlooked in preference of Moltzen, who still isn't showing much out on the field. I fear with the current Tigers backline, featuring in the finals this season will be a very short lived affair IF they manage to make the 8.

2 tries in 2 weeks of football and effort will only get the team so far. People can poke the finger at McKinnon, Lui and Moltzen as much as they want. It doesn't change the fact they will be named against the Eels in a fortnight.
 
@willow said:
@tiger05 said:
@happy tiger said:
I remember Moltzen trial at fullback , its like a recurring nightmare Titans game , Broncos game saw enough thanks mate pass Lets find someone from another club NOW PLEASE MACDONNELL

No problems with that but the McKinnon experiment has to end.

It will end at the end of the season. Brown is the next best option and he's being overlooked in preference of Moltzen, who still isn't showing much out on the field. I fear with the current Tigers backline, featuring in the finals this season will be a very short lived affair IF they manage to make the 8.

2 tries in 2 weeks of football and effort will only get the team so far. People can poke the finger at McKinnon, Lui and Moltzen as much as they want. It doesn't change the fact they will be named against the Eels in a fortnight.

Yep - unfortunately your right. I'd love to see Sheens experiment. Despite all his talk about the spine being so important he plays a 1 and a 7 who are really struggling.
 
He will wait until the off-season where he'll probably use Moltzen and maybe Brown if he sticks around as the main fullback contenders. Could be wrong but that's the way we're heading IMO.
 
What a knee jerk response. Yep, gifted the Dogs two tries tonight, but to base the player on one game is a joke. There is not a player in our team that hasn't been guilty of a bad effort at some point in time.
And really - who would take his place??????
 
The reason I have been calling for Moltzen there now is that I agree with you. Sheens views Moltzen as a fullback and he could be right.

I think he has looked a lot better there than McKinnon has this season. I don't think it is even close. If your longer term option is a better choice now not choosing him is madness.

My personal preference is to put Lawrence there. He is a gun. Put Moltzen at 6 and Benji at 7 and see how it goes.
 
@tiger05 said:
The reason I have been calling for Moltzen there now is that I agree with you. Sheens views Moltzen as a fullback and he could be right.

I think he has looked a lot better there than McKinnon has this season. I don't think it is even close. If your longer term option is a better choice now not choosing him is madness.

My personal preference is to put Lawrence there. He is a gun. Put Moltzen at 6 and Benji at 7 and see how it goes.

Moltzen is a liability at fullback… struggles under the high ball... doesn't attack the football, in experienced... does not have the support play mckinnon offers, yes he doesn't have the speed to score the tries... but tigers suck when it come to supporting!
 
You know, when we originally signed McKinnon I was genuinely excited, he had given Souths, Parramatta and the Worriers great service and 'was' to be the answer to all our problems.
Then we had to wait for him to appear, originally I thought that there was a gentleman's agreement that he wouldn't turn out for the Tigers against the Worriers.
Then we waited and waited and it became pretty obvious why the Worriers let him go so sheepishly, they knew his best days were past and someone managed to pull the wool over Shifty's eyes for Wade to sign on for not only 2010 but they gave him an upgrade for 2011.
What's worse is that the team that i follow in the ESL is the very team that has taken Wade off our hands for 2012, d'oh, earlier this season Souths sent Rhys Wesser back to the reggies for a couple of weeks to find his form and it appears to have worked.
So my old mate Wade I hope someone has introduced you to Leo Epifania and while you're at it you can be the go between with Robert Lui in being welcomed to the Magpies ranks.
 
@Mark said:
@tiger05 said:
The reason I have been calling for Moltzen there now is that I agree with you. Sheens views Moltzen as a fullback and he could be right.

I think he has looked a lot better there than McKinnon has this season. I don't think it is even close. If your longer term option is a better choice now not choosing him is madness.

My personal preference is to put Lawrence there. He is a gun. Put Moltzen at 6 and Benji at 7 and see how it goes.

Moltzen is a liability at fullback… struggles under the high ball... doesn't attack the football, in experienced... does not have the support play mckinnon offers, yes he doesn't have the speed to score the tries... but tigers suck when it come to supporting!

You make some good points however Moltzen now is still a much better player than McKinnon in my eyes.
 
Moltzen needs a full off season of fullback… with the guidance of brett hodgson or something... needs to put his heart into the 1 jersey!
 
It is frustrating watching Sheens determination to make Moltzen a fullback. He is just NOT a fullback, he has no idea positionally. I felt sorry for McKinnon a couplle of times last night when they kicked to Moltzen abd he was so far out of position, McKinnon had to come around from the wing and clean up the ball IN FRONT OF Moltzen who is still struggling to get into position. Must have been humiliating to have to clean up for the guy who has been moved into your position.

If not McKinnon, Brown is CLEARLY the best fullback available.
 
@Mark said:
Brown dropped a pretty average bomb though… I'd like to see ryan...

Mark you aren't going to catch every bomb they throw up . The bombs of today are much harder as these guys can make he ball do anything these days . Agree Brown or Beau are the best options for 2012 imo But I reckon they will pick Moltzen and it will be interesting to see what everyone says next season . When the "Gee , I wish Mackinnon was still here " comments flood the forum from all and sundry next season some on here will have to eat a piece of their own humble pie about their comments about how bad macKinnon is\was .
 
@Glennb said:
It is frustrating watching Sheens determination to make Moltzen a fullback. He is just NOT a fullback, he has no idea positionally. I felt sorry for McKinnon a couplle of times last night when they kicked to Moltzen abd he was so far out of position, McKinnon had to come around from the wing and clean up the ball IN FRONT OF Moltzen who is still struggling to get into position. Must have been humiliating to have to clean up for the guy who has been moved into your position.

If not McKinnon, Brown is CLEARLY the best fullback available.

There was a moment the other night in the final minutes where Moltzen was involved in a tackle on the line. The next tackle the Dogs put in a grubber which Moltzen attacked and picked the ball up. It was great play positional wise and he attacked the ball. I have seen him does this a couple of times and its plays like that which Sheens would think his a chance to be a class fullback.
 
@Allan Towle said:
@Glennb said:
It is frustrating watching Sheens determination to make Moltzen a fullback. He is just NOT a fullback, he has no idea positionally. I felt sorry for McKinnon a couplle of times last night when they kicked to Moltzen abd he was so far out of position, McKinnon had to come around from the wing and clean up the ball IN FRONT OF Moltzen who is still struggling to get into position. Must have been humiliating to have to clean up for the guy who has been moved into your position.

If not McKinnon, Brown is CLEARLY the best fullback available.

There was a moment the other night in the final minutes where Moltzen was involved in a tackle on the line. The next tackle the Dogs put in a grubber which Moltzen attacked and picked the ball up. It was great play positional wise and he attacked the ball. I have seen him does this a couple of times and its plays like that which Sheens would think his a chance to be a class fullback.

and yet he cant get in correct position for a standard kick on the 5th?
 
@happy tiger said:
@Mark said:
Brown dropped a pretty average bomb though… I'd like to see ryan...

Mark you aren't going to catch every bomb they throw up . The bombs of today are much harder as these guys can make he ball do anything these days . Agree Brown or Beau are the best options for 2012 imo But I reckon they will pick Moltzen and it will be interesting to see what everyone says next season . When the "Gee , I wish Mackinnon was still here " comments flood the forum from all and sundry next season some on here will have to eat a piece of their own humble pie about their comments about how bad macKinnon is\was .

Every bomb? I'd settle for a majority. Our bomb defusal record is awful. I agree the Moltzen will be first choice next year. He's certainly capable but gee it would be nice if he ran the ball back every now and then instead of passing it 30m every time.

As for McKinnon, as I said before he is a lot better than last night but his performance was an absolute stinker. I was watching the game with a Dogs fan and he even he was embarrassed by his performance.
 
@Glennb said:
@Allan Towle said:
@Glennb said:
It is frustrating watching Sheens determination to make Moltzen a fullback. He is just NOT a fullback, he has no idea positionally. I felt sorry for McKinnon a couplle of times last night when they kicked to Moltzen abd he was so far out of position, McKinnon had to come around from the wing and clean up the ball IN FRONT OF Moltzen who is still struggling to get into position. Must have been humiliating to have to clean up for the guy who has been moved into your position.

If not McKinnon, Brown is CLEARLY the best fullback available.

There was a moment the other night in the final minutes where Moltzen was involved in a tackle on the line. The next tackle the Dogs put in a grubber which Moltzen attacked and picked the ball up. It was great play positional wise and he attacked the ball. I have seen him does this a couple of times and its plays like that which Sheens would think his a chance to be a class fullback.

and yet he cant get in correct position for a standard kick on the 5th?

To be fair, their kicking game was pretty good all night.
 
Do you think that he may have trouble bending over to the ball on the ground because of his dodgy hamstrings??? thoughts??? i think that canterbury may have been targeting him due to this???
 
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