Mental Attitude

[Flippedy]

I just knew that this team would capitulate today after the bitter disappointment of last week and I even said so in a post during the week. It's not that they aren't physically talented enough to win games, they just appear to be incapable of overcoming any sort of setback, mentally. This has been a problem all year and it has also reared its ugly head at times in previous years, yet it remains unaddressed.

The multitude of media comments from many of our players and the coach, before matches over the last 4-5 weeks, really just seemed like lame attempts to get themselves motivated to turn up and play - like they were trying to talk themselves into performing well. All it has done is made them look like geese! It's been all talk, but no positive action on the field for the most part. Benji declared in his newspaper column today that is was time for him to stand up - well what the hell happened to that???

The coach is incapable of motivating the team, the senior players seem incapable of motivating themselves and the rest of the team, the whole team just seems to be going through the same motions every week hoping for better results, but at the end of each game they're still smiling and happy - yet the fans (or customers if you like, since we're a franchise :unamused🙂 who have paid their hard earned to watch this 'non-commitment' taking place each week are all hopping mad! It really is time to bring in a person, or people, who can put a rocket up this club and change this culture of mediocrity - enough is enough!

 

[Tigermac]

Well said Flippedy

They looked totally disinterested today, its like, oh it will come, maybe next week

If I hear any one of them talking up their origin chances before the start of 2013 I will scream

 

[851]

Sack the coach and make a stand,otherwise 2013 will be the same.

 

[Eddie]

Good post. Outside of Farah we lack leadership and toughness.

The fans generally know 10-15 minutes into a match whether were in quicksand or not. When you lose because of the same old problems, thats the hardest thing to accept. The old saying the way the side plays is a relfection of the coaches personality.

Well Sheens is stale, and the whole joint is stale. Complacent rubbish.

 

[ashman]

Some really insightful comments made and I totally agree.

Look, I'm a big sheens fan and the pro sheens lot( the ones that can't stand anything remotely negative) need to realise we are and will always be indebted to how sheens turned our club around and then helped us win the big one in 2005… He will forever have a special place in Wests tigers history . The man is a great coach and a legend . BUT in life and in workplace things change and it is a business..we are below par and same issues are never fixed or seemingly attempted to fix

It must be said 2010 And even 2011 were decent years really but there's always been a lack of this right attitude and in light of so many failings from 2006 to 2009 it's too long fr a coach to not be accountable.

I do think our roster is slightly over rated for true ability but all the same it's one that should make the 8.

With injuries and loss of Robbie's mum I had just making the 8 as acceptable this year ( and this is still possible albeit very unlikely) but footy is a game of inches sometimes and not making the 8 is therefore a massive failure no matter how close...or what excuses

As others have said, this is not personal and not even an attack on Sheens but rather just as a passionate supporter it's time to go.

Robbie and Benji are in their prime infact it could be said they are how close to the slide although Robbie has shown was a champ he really is and I think has at least 2 top class years left in him as does Benji... Let see what a new coach and staff can do with our key players...

It's time for a change and that time is now.
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[system]

The same mistakes and mental lapses keep occuring with no look of changing and zero consequence for offenders.

All that has changed is that the players have become very slick at pumping out the Sheens rhetoric.

Farah seems to be the only guy who tells it how it is.

Biggest example is a great football player but is not a competitor. Guys like Thurston, Smith, Farah and Gallen these guys are competitors, losing is not something that sits well with them. Benji simply does not seen to have that in him and it has been allowed to fester for years through lack of consequence and now we reap what has been sowed

 

[cunno]

Another aspect to this attitude situation is the fact that top players are on contract and receive the same money win, lose or draw as far as their contract goes. So the pressure that many in the community face of going to work and performing to the required standard to make a living is not something many of these players have to worry about in terms of their livelihood. I have always thought that this view is not all that relevant to a top line athlete as I thought they were driven by success and personal achievement as much as anything else (including money). But I'm starting to swing to the view that this later sentence is nowhere near the case and that what some need is a good reality check in what work to survive means.

 

[Flippedy]

Another aspect to this attitude situation is the fact that top players are on contract and receive the same money win, lose or draw as far as their contract goes. So the pressure that many in the community face of going to work and performing to the required standard to make a living is not something many of these players have to worry about in terms of their livelihood. I have always thought that this view is not all that relevant to a top line athlete as I thought they were driven by success and personal achievement as much as anything else (including money). But I'm starting to swing to the view that this later sentence is nowhere near the case and that what some need is a good reality check in what work to survive means.

Great post, Cunno. I had considered that aspect, but it certainly doesn't bode well if the top players' heads are, in fact, in that space. The culture that has been fostered in recent years really stinks!

 

[cunno]

Yes there needs to be a big shake up Flippedy but we know what will really happen :unamused:

 

[Shubert]

I said exactly the same thing through the game nothing to do with skill set we have the skills we don't have the mental attitude we get to finals we play great for 65 mins then let it go, we lead games 30 in front and lose we lose a game after winning 6 in a row then lose one but it’s not just one its many we play the leader of the comp and lose due to an incorrect decision we play a team trying not to get the wooden spoon and we get thrashed and not the first time it’s all "mental attitude" who can fix this not just the coach there are people we need to get that can work on this mentoring / attitude work we have the roster of a "champion team" we need to learn to think like a "champion team" who wants the job and who can do it ?

 

[NZTiger]

Yep well said. You could just sense the boys wouldn't be up for this as soon as Inu slotted that golden point field goal last week.
Sick of the talk. We seem to be an 'all talk no action' kind of side. Enoughs enough.
Things need to change but sadly they won't.
Just think, we are coming up to close to a decade since we last won the premiership >_<
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[innsaneink]

Good post. Outside of Farah we lack leadership and toughness.

The fans generally know 10-15 minutes into a match whether were in quicksand or not. When you lose because of the same old problems, thats the hardest thing to accept. The old saying the way the side plays is a relfection of the coaches personality.

Well Sheens is stale, and the whole joint is stale. Complacent rubbish.

All the ''gunna'' articles have been giving me diarohhea

Our first penalty today, 40m out, normally we score….the roosters defended two straight sets on their line, we could do nothing, it was about 15 mins in.....knew then we were cactus

 

[Gazman]

The last 25 rounds we have been a house of cards , and the roosters finally blew them down today, I held onto hope that despite our average performance in scraping into the eight until this round that perhaps we would have got bettter closer to this day. The loss of Farah whilst a set back should not have led to this performance. I could have handled a narrow loss giving us a chance for the last round, but even if miracles do happen and the cards fall our way next week, the season is shot and we would not get any further. I agree the mental toughness is gone this year and maybe they will find this in the off season.