Mid year review

@larrycorowa said:
Taylor's day of reckoning is fast approaching. If they sack him I hope at the same time they hold the playing group to account. There is s good chunk of the current squad members that should be cut for underperforming (farah, brooks, nofo, halatau, sirro)

Yup if he goes (kicking and screaming), he'd better take a dozen with him; from the front desk to the paddock. There is no point in a changing of the guard unless there is both a suitable replacement and a clean out of the roster. Both of these cost money which we don't have the luxury of. I'd expect to see very little change over the coming 18 months.
 
As we currently stand we are no chance of making the semis. Lucky to win more than 4 games for the rest of the season.

I like Pascoe to continue the trend of releasing players and hopefully Sirro, Cherrington are let go mid year.

If Halatua is retiring and Farah being moved to Super league after this year are true then I would play them both in the lower grades.

Let's give fringe first graders and Under 20's a chance for the rest of the year (within the salary cap and two tier rules).

I would like to see Chance Peni, JAC, MCK, Fine, JJ Feilse, Littlejohn given half a season to prove their worth with a view to 2017.

Brooks and Moses should be split up and maybe put Rankin at half back and Brooks (Still can't see the hype) back to State Cup or moved on.

I think Ballin and ET will provide some professionalism for the rest of the year.

Finally I would part company with Taylor and given Willie Peters the rest of the year.

We need to incorporate second faze plays and a proper kicking game.

Need to purchase some quality first graders for next year to fill centre, second row and lock.
 
@Russell said:
@LCA said:
@Russell said:
Has anyone thought that he doesn't have much of a say in the team.

E.g. Moses and Brooks are to be picked every game regardless of form.

E.g. Because of the second tier cap he is limited to who he can drop and promote.

E.g. Didn't have any say in Farah - go for it and then the Board backed out and he had to apologise. Joke.

E.g. Over ride the coach and S & C team - supply beer and pizza.

Just think he is on a very short rope as to what decisions he can make myself, but cops 100% of the blame. Not saying he is guiltless but it would be nice to have a coach that can live or die on their own decisions.

So, who does "have much of a say"if not Taylor? Enlighten us please, with fact not opinion.

I was saying has anyone thought. Not that it is fact.

Everyone assumes he has total control of everything. I am assuming that he MAY NOT (not that he hasn't).

Do you believe that the second tier cap is not restricting selections - that he can just pick whoever he likes? I don't. I think he is restricted in who he brings up and he also has to keep some in reserve in case injuries start to spiral and then he can't play certain players later because of the cap. It is not as simple as some on the Forum would like to believe.

Blame him all you like, you will anyway - I am not making excuses for him but saying that there maybe reasons why he is making some (not all) decisions.

I can't recall one player that has progressed under JT's tutelage. In fact, I believe many players have actually regressed under JT which is consistent with the dumbed down style of percentage football he seems to think is needed to win. Results speak for themselves and five hit ups and a bomb undersells the talent we have in this squad. We have fine talent which is badly coached by JT. A new coach, with new tactics and with good communication skills will see a marked improvement.
 
It seems to me that Taylor has a tonne of support behind him from within the club. That support at some point must stop unless he can actually get the team performing.
 
While you may all be requesting some changes be made, my question is "When does the take-over by Wests Ashfield take place?"
Surely, if this financial change for Wests Tigers is considerable, there will be a big change to the Board. This new Board will want to see changes to the whole Club structure take place in an attempt to bring about an improvement in the Club results both on and off the field. If there are no changes, then we must expect the same results as we are achieving to date.
Therefore, I suggest there will be no changes until the new regime takes over!
 
Sheens circa 2012 = Same bizarre team choices week in, week out - no accountability.
Potter = Same bizarre team choices week in week out - no accountability.
Taylor = Same bizarre team choices week in week out - no accountability.

Taylor haters conclusion = OH MY GOD MUST BE TAYLORS FAULT THE TEAM SELECTED ISN'T ACCOUNTABLE SACK THE GUY.

It's plainly obvious the team selections are hamstrung by those above in management, or a salary cap mess.

Taylor lacks in other areas, however selection of the team is not one of them.
 
JT has been able to bring in his own staff twice over, and has enjoyed great public support from within the club. He's had input into player recruitment, something his predecessor did not.
He walked into the club in 2015 with a mandate to develop a very young and inexperienced squad, and get them up to compete for the semis and top four within a few years.
He's preached a defence-first mentality, correctly arguing that the successful sides over the last 4-5 years (probably longer) have all been built upon their defence.

18 months in, and how many of the current squad can we say have improved? Tedesco is on another level, but the others are stagnant if not regressing.
We've mortgaged the farm to an extent on our two halves, and both of them are still struggling around 50 games into their career. Brooks in particular is noticeably going backwards.
Our defence hasn't improved whatsoever, and is now going backwards. 2016 is the second worst defensive season in WT history based upon the first 10 weeks.
I fully expect Taylor to see out the season, given the noises from Pascoe et al, but gee it's grim reading at this stage.
With the recruitment window for 2017 well and truly open, it's important for the club to sell itself to prospective recruits - not sure we're able to do so at present.
 
SO. You wanna play for Craig Bellamy?

Then drop and give us 1000.
There will be no talking on your 3am leisurely stroll around the track carting a 20 kilo pack. No finish time in sight either.
Oh and mind the terrorists. Let the buggers slip by on your watch and it’s game over.
Melbourne’s pre-season boot camps are infamous for breaking players down, and famed for building champion sides.
It’s how Bellamy sorts the Storm wannabes from the gonnabes.
He’s been sending his charges to hell and back every year he has been at the club, the three-day exercises in torture designed to reveal exactly what the players are capable of: for coach and squad alike.
But at the end of 2015 Bellamy gave it to his squad — the youngest he has ever coached — straight up.
They weren’t mentally tough enough to win an NRL premiership.
Which made the last three days of Melbourne’s 2015 campaign more important than ever.

‘THREE DAYS OF HELL’

Dale ‘Kaos’ Finucane is one of the game’s more rough and ready customers.
He arrived at Melbourne in 2015 already included in the club’s emerging leadership group, having played two grand finals with Canterbury and had the old ‘made for Origin’ tag all but stamped on his forehead.
But he also arrived at the Storm in January.
Which meant come late December last year, while the rest of us were dreaming of Christmas prawns and pork by the pallet, Finucane was sitting alongside 15 other recruits, youngsters and 32-year-old, 150-gamer Matt White.
Each of them with a pack, a number instead of a name, and more nerves than a long tailed tom cat in a room full of rocking chairs.
“It was the toughest thing I’ve done. Both physically and mentally,” Finucane tells foxsports.com.au.
“I think over the course of the three days I had less than 10 minutes sleep from Thursday to Saturday.
“I lost about 5-6 kilos … and a bit of my mind.”
FUN AND GAMES
The first day starts with an old fashioned physical slog.
Literally, a tonne of push ups, in lots of 50\. Running, sit ups, fireman’s carries, fun stuff with the old Navy style ropes.
Then the mental games start.
“There were these bloody rocks,” Finucane says.
“We had to pick them up and move them about 10 metres away. You get back on the bus, and this pretend phone call comes through.
“‘The rocks need to be moved back.’
“So we turn around, as soon as we get out of there, go back and move three tonne worth of rocks for a few hours.
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“And the sleep deprivation as well. There was a silent race, where you’re just walking as quickly as you could with your 20 kilo pack.
“But we weren’t told how long we were racing for. We ended up going for around three hours around a 400-500m circuit.
“This is at about 3am in the morning by the way.
“After that we waited in the bush for about another three hours, standing guard for terrorists.
“If anyone came past you had to sing out ‘halt, who goes there’, to acknowledge that you’d caught them. Otherwise you’d fallen asleep and you were in a lot of trouble.”

MAKE OR BREAK
Cameron Smith nails home a matchwinning field goal against the Cowboys.Source: News Corp Australia
All the while Bellamy is watching. Using the camp for more than just sadistic jollies. Using it as a yardstick.
Just as he sends juniors at the club for two-week stints on building sites, Bellamy “pops up when you’d least expect him” throughout the ordeal, checking in on exactly what type of character is revealed.
In his 2013 book Home Truths, Bellamy wrote: “What happens in that camp and how certain players react to tough situations under fatigue and distress, usually applies to what happens on the field.”
Skipper Cam Smith sees the rewards being reaped right there as well, on the field.
“Last year we had young guys come in and out of our first grade side, and they’d play extremely well for one week or two weeks, but then go missing for a couple,” Smith says.
“Craig just touched on having a mentally tough team. Across the board he didn’t believe that we were a mentally tough team.
“He thought he needed a few things to change, which we certainly did across the preseason with a few things to toughen the boys up.
“The young guys they trained particularly hard and got everything done that they were asked to do and now those guys are playing ultra-consistent.”
Last week Bellamy could not recall being more proud of his side than after their one-point win over reigning premiers North Queensland.
The strides taken by Bellamy’s younger contingent explain that statement. In 2015 Melbourne dropped six games against teams in sitting 15th and 16th on the ladder — a thoroughly unwanted NRL record.
In 2016 they’re knocking off frontrunners like the Cowboys, but also gritting their teeth through ugly wins over the Knights and Tigers.
It’s the mark of a mentally tough side. A Craig Bellamy side.
‘YOU DO GO BACK THERE’

What could of been - but wasn't meant to be.

Trust me - we'll be great again - it's in the works as we speak with or without Teddy.
 
@MightyMaggy said:
While you may all be requesting some changes be made, my question is "When does the take-over by Wests Ashfield take place?"
Surely, if this financial change for Wests Tigers is considerable, there will be a big change to the Board. This new Board will want to see changes to the whole Club structure take place in an attempt to bring about an improvement in the Club results both on and off the field. If there are no changes, then we must expect the same results as we are achieving to date.
Therefore, I suggest there will be no changes until the new regime takes over!

You'd think this would be the case. They may also be hanging out until Broses' deadline passes.
 

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