Mitch Brown (what has he done wrong)

@Spartan117 said:
Mitch has to tear up the Vulcans this weekend, He will soon be back in FG.

Change your avatar please

EDIT…Iagrre best way for Brown to get into FG is score tries when Sheens aint there
 
Whats wrong with Spartan's avatar? lol I missed it….

MITCH BROWN is OKAY, better than WADE MCKINNON
However I believe, despite all the talk of "HE ISN'T A FULLBACK" or "HE SHOULD BE HALFBACK"
MOLTZEN would be the goods if given the time to settle in & make the role his own.

Which brings me to my next point, GEOFF DANIELA is better than UTAI, he would be my first choice winger for the time being.
MITCH BROWN to bench utility until BEAU RYAN is recovered.
 
its a terrible avatar - isnt it. you lose your respect for the guy - in this case spartan
and demps - dont freak out - everything will fall in place in time.
 
Brown actually is a fullback, making him a better option than Moltzen, and is probably a better fullback than McKinnon. I'd get him back in there, he doesn't do anything wrong, and we have enough game breakers in the side as it is.
 
@Marshall_magic said:
Brown actually is a fullback, making him a better option than Moltzen, and is probably a better fullback than McKinnon. I'd get him back in there, he doesn't do anything wrong, and we have enough game breakers in the side as it is.

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I wonder with money we will have with Cayless and TNT not playing we may look at a mid season signing for fullback . I can't think of anyone or heard of anyone but who knows I wonder if we made a play at Tahu Doubt it but made me think anyway
 
I really don't get the bagging of McKinnon. He is clearly the best fullback we have.

Of course, he's lost pace since his injury, and he's still not match fit but once he settles in he'll be fine. He's relatively safe under the high ball, his kick returns are good, and he's ALWAYS sniffing around looking for an offload, which none of our other options at fullback do.

Brown is also a good option for fullback, but IMO he should be on the right wing. He is a better player than both Utai and Ryan.

As for Moltzen, he's a terrible fullback who walks the ball back from kick returns. He shouldn't even be mentioned as an option.
 
@hybrid_tiger said:
I really don't get the bagging of McKinnon. He is clearly the best fullback we have.

Of course, he's lost pace since his injury, and he's still not match fit but once he settles in he'll be fine. He's relatively safe under the high ball, his kick returns are good, and **he's ALWAYS sniffing around looking for an offload, which none of our other options at fullback do.**

Brown is also a good option for fullback, but IMO he should be on the right wing. He is a better player than both Utai and Ryan.

As for Moltzen, he's a terrible fullback who walks the ball back from kick returns. He shouldn't even be mentioned as an option.

100% correct HT - but I'll personally still not write off Moltzen to develop into a very good fullback in time!!!

A bit of bravado wouldn't go astray - but aside from that - he has some excellent attributes for the position (i.e. speed, size, ball skills etc!!
 
@happy tiger said:
I wonder with money we will have with Cayless and TNT not playing we may look at a mid season signing for fullback . I can't think of anyone or heard of anyone but who knows I wonder if we made a play at **Tahu** Doubt it but made me think anyway

NO NO NO NO NO!!!
 
@redemption said:
@hybrid_tiger said:
I really don't get the bagging of McKinnon. He is clearly the best fullback we have.

Of course, he's lost pace since his injury, and he's still not match fit but once he settles in he'll be fine. He's relatively safe under the high ball, his kick returns are good, and **he's ALWAYS sniffing around looking for an offload, which none of our other options at fullback do.**

Brown is also a good option for fullback, but IMO he should be on the right wing. He is a better player than both Utai and Ryan.

As for Moltzen, he's a terrible fullback who walks the ball back from kick returns. He shouldn't even be mentioned as an option.

100% correct HT - but I'll personally still not write off Moltzen to develop into a very good fullback in time!!!

A bit of bravado wouldn't go astray - but aside from that - he has some excellent attributes for the position (i.e. speed, size, ball skills etc!!

Perhaps the reason why he has bulked up? Just a theory…
 
@redemption said:
@hybrid_tiger said:
I really don't get the bagging of McKinnon. He is clearly the best fullback we have.

Of course, he's lost pace since his injury, and he's still not match fit but once he settles in he'll be fine. He's relatively safe under the high ball, his kick returns are good, and **he's ALWAYS sniffing around looking for an offload, which none of our other options at fullback do.**

Brown is also a good option for fullback, but IMO he should be on the right wing. He is a better player than both Utai and Ryan.

As for Moltzen, he's a terrible fullback who walks the ball back from kick returns. He shouldn't even be mentioned as an option.

100% correct HT - but I'll personally still not write off Moltzen to develop into a very good fullback in time!!!

A bit of bravado wouldn't go astray - but aside from that - he has some excellent attributes for the position (i.e. speed, size, ball skills etc!!

For mine the main job of a fullback is kick returns, defensive positioning and ability under the high ball. IMO McKinnon is excellent at all of these, and Moltzen is terrible at all of them.

Moltzen's main attributes mean he should be in the centres, or at halfback.

But who knows, if he works on his weaknesses he may become a good fullback, but it would be alot of work. It is a tough position to play and I don't think you can just throw anyone in there.
 
@hybrid_tiger said:
@redemption said:
@hybrid_tiger said:
I really don't get the bagging of McKinnon. He is clearly the best fullback we have.

Of course, he's lost pace since his injury, and he's still not match fit but once he settles in he'll be fine. He's relatively safe under the high ball, his kick returns are good, and **he's ALWAYS sniffing around looking for an offload, which none of our other options at fullback do.**

Brown is also a good option for fullback, but IMO he should be on the right wing. He is a better player than both Utai and Ryan.

As for Moltzen, he's a terrible fullback who walks the ball back from kick returns. He shouldn't even be mentioned as an option.

100% correct HT - but I'll personally still not write off Moltzen to develop into a very good fullback in time!!!

A bit of bravado wouldn't go astray - but aside from that - he has some excellent attributes for the position (i.e. speed, size, ball skills etc!!

For mine the main job of a fullback is kick returns, defensive positioning and ability under the high ball. IMO McKinnon is excellent at all of these, and Moltzen is terrible at all of them.

Moltzen's main attributes mean he should be in the centres, or at halfback.

But who knows, if he works on his weaknesses he may become a good fullback, but it would be alot of work. It is a tough position to play and I don't think you can just throw anyone in there.

Moltzen at centre is laughable!!!!!!!!!

As I stated - at fullback he is a work in progress at best!!!!

If he had some bigger balls - he could be very good there!!! But I agree - it will take ALOT of work!!!
 
@hybrid_tiger said:
@redemption said:
@hybrid_tiger said:
I really don't get the bagging of McKinnon. He is clearly the best fullback we have.

Of course, he's lost pace since his injury, and he's still not match fit but once he settles in he'll be fine. He's relatively safe under the high ball, his kick returns are good, and **he's ALWAYS sniffing around looking for an offload, which none of our other options at fullback do.**

Brown is also a good option for fullback, but IMO he should be on the right wing. He is a better player than both Utai and Ryan.

As for Moltzen, he's a terrible fullback who walks the ball back from kick returns. He shouldn't even be mentioned as an option.

100% correct HT - but I'll personally still not write off Moltzen to develop into a very good fullback in time!!!

A bit of bravado wouldn't go astray - but aside from that - he has some excellent attributes for the position (i.e. speed, size, ball skills etc!!

For mine the main job of a fullback is kick returns, defensive positioning and ability under the high ball. IMO McKinnon is excellent at all of these, and Moltzen is terrible at all of them.

Moltzen's main attributes mean he should be in the centres, or at halfback.

But who knows, if he works on his weaknesses he may become a good fullback, but it would be alot of work. It is a tough position to play and I don't think you can just throw anyone in there.

totally agree HT one major attribute a full back needs is being a great communicator and a voice like a fog horn Screaming at players defensively to move or be in position
 
Mitch Brown played wll last year on the roll into the finals and was quite safe under the high ball as well. I believe he has the right ro feel unlucky of being snubbed from first grade, usually you have to earn your spot to get in first grade and sheens is pretty loyal to the player that got the job done before, so im not sure whats going there.
 
IIRC Beau Ryan played one poor game at fullback after a string of excellent performances as was lambasted and stripped of the role. I think he is our best option at fullback tbh. Brett Hodgson thought so too remember.
 
Just another thought given various people's opinion.

If McKinnon is too slow and old, Mitch Brown not up to NRL standard (not my opinion) and Jake Mullaney to young and needs to put on some weight to play NRL we have some money left over from TT retiring why don't we offer some money to David Milne from Canberra. Plays well when given the opportunity at Canberra and he is stuck behind Josh Dugan.

I would go for Mitch Brown as he is sold and runs the ball back with pace. His positional play in attack needs to improve but he has pace. As someone pointed out that last year he chased down one of the Titan's wingers who has plenty of pace. We already have enough attacking players in our back line plus super sub Moltzen to come on and spark some attack.

Like the idea of Moltzen playing a bit of dummy half and defending on the wing with Lawrence pushing closer to the action in defence.

Also Brown was the full back for the last 6 games when we came one point away from the Grand Final.
 
@Tiger Watto said:
These thread titles are funny… I think the problem for Mitch is he has done very little at all!!!

Whats he achieved?
How many Tries has he scored?

Judging by his useage last year, he is only a backup for NRL and doesnt feature in Sheens prefered backline...

I only see him as a player who is at State Cup Level...

lol wow….. so u mean being safe under the high ball, making correct defensive decisions and finishing off attack the majority of the time doesnt count for anything? what more do u want from him? score 4 tries a game in state cup to then 'acheive something'? shannon mcdonnell killed state cup but he was next to useless in first grade

mckinnon is nothing compared to what he used to be... he's not even a state cup player... he's and english super league player.
 
@mtd said:
@Tiger Watto said:
These thread titles are funny… I think the problem for Mitch is he has done very little at all!!!

Whats he achieved?
How many Tries has he scored?

Judging by his useage last year, he is only a backup for NRL and doesnt feature in Sheens prefered backline...

I only see him as a player who is at State Cup Level...

lol wow….. so u mean being safe under the high ball, making correct defensive decisions and finishing off attack the majority of the time doesnt count for anything? what more do u want from him? score 4 tries a game in state cup to then 'acheive something'? shannon mcdonnell killed state cup but he was next to useless in first grade

mckinnon is nothing compared to what he used to be... he's not even a state cup player... he's and english super league player.

Wrong… McKinnon is the Tigers preferred Fullback, Moltzen is second and Brown is a good backup if needed.

lmao... Brown has only played 5 games at Fullback and hasnt scored a try in any of those games... I wouldnt call that good finishing off??? The only thing correct about your assessment is he has caught a 'few' high balls and McDonnell was crap in first grade...

If the bloke was any good at Fullback, and Sheens had him in his plans to play there, he'd be playing Fullback for BRET???
 
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