Mitch Rein

@TYGA said:
hooker has to be an 80 minute position with the interchange coming down.
There is no way you can play Taupau at lock if you play two hookers. We would also need to sign an 80 minute back rower to move Taupau to the front row. This is why STGI are smart to buy a cheap Farah.

It's going to be interesting the tactics

My initial thoughts are the same as yours however with 2 attacking hookers coming on in spurts around tired forwards the game changes dramatically. Add to it outside backs running as forwards from dummy half and the game may change in a very different direction. Forwards could become defensive workhorses rather than meter men and impact players off the bench could be prized commodities.

It will be very interesting how tactics of teams play out - conventional or game breakers on the bench.

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Yet at present only the Storm seem to have an 80min hooker,,,every other Club including ours has run with 2 this year,,,,,
 
@Geo. said:
Yet at present only the Storm seem to have an 80min hooker,,,every other Club including ours has run with 2 this year,,,,,

Canterbury had Liccha who played 80, replaced him with Cook who plays 80.
 
@Milky said:
@Chadman's Ghost said:
I can see Rein as a solid 'hold over' player that will give Cherrington time to develop into the starting role, without forcing another young player into the starting line-up.

Rein also comes at half the cost of Farah, helps move Farah on (for whatever reason) & provides the club with what I'd consider a 'hard working' professional from everything I see & hear about him.

Interesting sidenote- Adam Clydesdale from Newcastle has been told he is 'free to explore other options'. 2 things- this could open the door for Farah, and why isn't the Newcastle community up in arms & storming the Knights offices in untempered fury over the release of a contracted player????

Because he hasn't given over a decade of his life to the club, he also hasn't given up a significant amount of money for his club and oh he has never won a premiership with his club. Did i forget that he hasnt been inducted in the knights for life club?

Farah hasn't given up money for the club, he may have pushed it back but he'll still get it.

If he weren't to get it at all, only then can you say he's given it up.
 
@TYGA said:
hooker has to be an 80 minute position with the interchange coming down.
There is no way you can play Taupau at lock if you play two hookers. We would also need to sign an 80 minute back rower to move Taupau to the front row. This is why STGI are smart to buy a cheap Farah.

You could have the 2 props and a lock doing 20 minute spells and swap hookers at halftime, leaving one emergency replacement, but you'll be stuffed if you have 2 more injuries.

I think most teams will rotate their props and lock and have an 80min hooker, but we might rotate our front row and have an 80min lock (which won't be Taupau).
 
@Masterton said:
@TYGA said:
hooker has to be an 80 minute position with the interchange coming down.
There is no way you can play Taupau at lock if you play two hookers. We would also need to sign an 80 minute back rower to move Taupau to the front row. This is why STGI are smart to buy a cheap Farah.

You could have the 2 props and a lock doing 20 minute spells and swap hookers at halftime, leaving one emergency replacement, but you'll be stuffed if you have 2 more injuries.

I think most teams will rotate their props and lock and have an 80min hooker, but we might rotate our front row and have an 80min lock (which won't be Taupau).

Good point however, is is a fair advantage using a second hooker who could play back row given the new interchange. Halatau may get another year as he could fill this role for possibly one more year.
 
Can anyone really see Saints swapping Rein for Farah ??

They wouldn't do it even if we'd stuck a loaded gun to their heads
 
@Chadman's Ghost said:
I can see Rein as a solid 'hold over' player that will give Cherrington time to develop into the starting role, without forcing another young player into the starting line-up.

Rein also comes at half the cost of Farah, helps move Farah on (for whatever reason) & provides the club with what I'd consider a 'hard working' professional from everything I see & hear about him.

Interesting sidenote- Adam Clydesdale from Newcastle has been told he is 'free to explore other options'. 2 things- this could open the door for Farah, and why isn't the Newcastle community up in arms & storming the Knights offices in untempered fury over the release of a contracted player????

Adam who ???….That's why.
 
@happy tiger said:
Can anyone really see Saints swapping Rein for Farah ??

They wouldn't do it even if we'd stuck a loaded gun to their heads

Rein isn't rated by most Dragons supporters and apparently their coaching staff. He has poor service out of dummy half and has no kicking game. Great runner and developed into a decent defender.

If we sign him as part of a trade it rubber stamps this whole Farah episode was political and a power play. He is a worse fit for Brooks.

Cherrington has to be the next man up for WT.
 
don't really understand why Rein would even want this to happen, he's 25? won't his time here be short given Cherrington, Rein would have to find another club not too far down the track
 
@TYGA said:
@happy tiger said:
Can anyone really see Saints swapping Rein for Farah ??

They wouldn't do it even if we'd stuck a loaded gun to their heads

**Rein isn't rated** by most Dragons supporters and apparently their coaching staff. He has poor service out of dummy half and has no kicking game. Great runner and developed into a decent defender.

**If we sign him as part of a trade it rubber stamps this whole Farah episode was political and a power play**. He is a worse fit for Brooks.

Cherrington has to be the next man up for WT.

You have summarised this situation well. We have a succession plan in place with Farah and Cherrington.
 
@Pawsandclaws said:
@TYGA said:
@happy tiger said:
Can anyone really see Saints swapping Rein for Farah ??

They wouldn't do it even if we'd stuck a loaded gun to their heads

**Rein isn't rated** by most Dragons supporters and apparently their coaching staff. He has poor service out of dummy half and has no kicking game. Great runner and developed into a decent defender.

**If we sign him as part of a trade it rubber stamps this whole Farah episode was political and a power play**. He is a worse fit for Brooks.

Cherrington has to be the next man up for WT.

You have summarised this situation well. We have a succession plan in place with Farah and Cherrington.

It does but still doesn't the answer the question of why the Saints would want Farah over Rein and why would Rein want to come to the WT's
 
@Pawsandclaws said:
Farah has said he lost earnings as the money could have been invested in the property market.

Ah, he's talking about speculative earnings he was never owed.

Hindsight is always 20/20.
 
@Tigermama said:
@Chadman's Ghost said:
I can see Rein as a solid 'hold over' player that will give Cherrington time to develop into the starting role, without forcing another young player into the starting line-up.

Rein also comes at half the cost of Farah, helps move Farah on (for whatever reason) & provides the club with what I'd consider a 'hard working' professional from everything I see & hear about him.

Interesting sidenote- Adam Clydesdale from Newcastle has been told he is 'free to explore other options'. 2 things- this could open the door for Farah, and why isn't the Newcastle community up in arms & storming the Knights offices in untempered fury over the release of a contracted player????

Adam who ???….That's why.

So you are saying that if Taylor was pushing, say… Simona out of the club, or Lovett- that we as fans would be ok with it because they are not as high profile?

Kind of flies in the face of the 'loyalty to player' thing some people want to use...
 
@Cultured Bogan said:
@Pawsandclaws said:
Farah has said he lost earnings as the money could have been invested in the property market.

Ah, he's talking about speculative earnings he was never owed.

Hindsight is always 20/20.

Semantics. Forgone earnings to assist the club with its cap issue.
 
@Chadman's Ghost said:
@Tigermama said:
@Chadman's Ghost said:
I can see Rein as a solid 'hold over' player that will give Cherrington time to develop into the starting role, without forcing another young player into the starting line-up.

Rein also comes at half the cost of Farah, helps move Farah on (for whatever reason) & provides the club with what I'd consider a 'hard working' professional from everything I see & hear about him.

Interesting sidenote- Adam Clydesdale from Newcastle has been told he is 'free to explore other options'. 2 things- this could open the door for Farah, and why isn't the Newcastle community up in arms & storming the Knights offices in untempered fury over the release of a contracted player????

Adam who ???….That's why.

So you are saying that if Taylor was pushing, say… Simona out of the club, or Lovett- that we as fans would be ok with it because they are not as high profile?

Kind of flies in the face of the 'loyalty to player' thing some people want to use...

Insert the name Danny Buderus and then you would have had a similar reaction.
 
@Chadman's Ghost said:
@Tigermama said:
@Chadman's Ghost said:
I can see Rein as a solid 'hold over' player that will give Cherrington time to develop into the starting role, without forcing another young player into the starting line-up.

Rein also comes at half the cost of Farah, helps move Farah on (for whatever reason) & provides the club with what I'd consider a 'hard working' professional from everything I see & hear about him.

Interesting sidenote- Adam Clydesdale from Newcastle has been told he is 'free to explore other options'. 2 things- this could open the door for Farah, and why isn't the Newcastle community up in arms & storming the Knights offices in untempered fury over the release of a contracted player????

Adam who ???….That's why.

So you are saying that if Taylor was pushing, say… Simona out of the club, or Lovett- that we as fans would be ok with it because they are not as high profile?

Kind of flies in the face of the 'loyalty to player' thing some people want to use...

Farah is not your 'average' player - and does not deserved to be treated as 'average'.
He has been at the club for almost as long as they have existed , is a club junior, has played more games than anyone else, is the club captain, is a life member and is a current rep player.
That's why people are up in arms - not so much that he might have to move on , but the way it's been orchestrated.
Comparing his to the Clydesdale situation is ridiculous.
Clydesdale v Thoroughbred. (No offence to Adam,who is only 22)
 
@Pawsandclaws said:
Farah has said he lost earnings as the money could have been invested in the property market.

That's exactly right, but it doesn't suit the anti Farah brigade to see that , they deal mostly in negative rumours not facts.
 
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