Mitchell Moses released [Official]

[earl]

I used to love 360.
Dont watch anymore… Seriously considering ditching foxtel

Dont blame ya mate I had enough a month ago and cancelled mine.

I called them up and they asked why I wanted to cancel and I said "because of Hooper and Buzz" and they asked "who are they" and I said "exactly!!" :brick:

This is gold. I don't have Foxtel and these reporters have no integrity at all.

 

[greatodensraven]

I would like to take this opportunity to personally extend my heartfelt thanks to Mr M.Moses, Mr I.Moses and Mr B.Elias for their stellar work in uniting and galvanising the Wests Tigers supporter base like never before.
Their hard work and dedication to the cause through rampant deceit, media manipulation, lies and lack of professionalism have allowed Wests Tigers to begin to cultivate a new culture and hopefully an era of success.
Once again thank you for your contributions, they have been a credit to your character as loyal and committed professionals.

Well said. Do the 3 stooges have Twitter? Would be well worth sharing this comment with them.

 

[simonthetigerrrr]

When Benny said Moses was the consumate professional i nearly fell off my chair and choked on my dinner…..and these pissweak journos never even brought that to task.I guess tanking games so u can get a release is ok.

And somone is telling porkies.....Cleary said that 2 days into his tenureship that Moses asked for a release,which doesnt fit into the whole 'he didnt want me then asked for a release'.....I know who my money is on.

 

[mtd]

why is everyone so emotional?

it's like watching ACA and complaining about tracy grimshaw…..

 

[earl]

why is everyone so emotional?

it's like watching ACA and complaining about tracy grimshaw…..

This is a good point. I don't watch this crap and I haven't for years. A lot of the Foxtel commentators and all of the DT commentators are even below ACA/60 minutes level.

I wonder who is buying their crap.

 

[IronTiger]

Well some facts regarding the release from the Coach Ivan Cleary….

Cleary addresses media at airport

Wed 17th May, 03:00PM

Wests Tigers Head Coach Ivan Cleary spoke to the media at Sydney Airport today ahead of the team's Round 11 clash against the Brisbane Broncos at Suncorp Stadium.

See what Cleary had to say in full about the departure of Mitchell Moses and the timeline of that, as well as the inclusion of Aaron Woods for Friday's big match in the video above!

http://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2017/05/17/cleary_addresses_med.html

Very interesting ...Kent Ritchie and Buzz take note...agenda's

Ivan keeps saying "be the player others want to play with". After hearing his interview, who wouldn't want to play under him? (excluding our big 3 of course). Just sounds like a genuinely honest bloke.

I have listened to Ivan's interview today and he said that Moses's Manager sought a realise for Mitchell on the second day he started with the WT…. did I hear that right???....that doesn't line up with what we have been told.....???

Exactly which means Moses WAS signed for Parra before he was advised he was not the priority, this is a quote none of the "journalists" have picked up on or probed further as it would mean asking negative questions of Issac and his players. Basically Issac has poorly managed the whole affair, tried to hold the club to ransom and failed. What has resulted is a massive PR exercise involving the Newscorp journos, who must be getting tidy backhanders to spin the story against the club. It's no coincidence the other News outlets are not spinning the same jarns.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

I realise that your opinion has to be regarded as Gospel, but when I last heard , I believe it was Cleary who was in charge of saying who was staying and who was going , when Moses had the hammer droppedon him. And his offer pulled. Yet you include Cleary as one who kept Moses here.
He was onlyhere until they could get a good deal by letting him go.
Cleary has spent a lot of time since he arrived in looking for another player so he could get rid of Moses. Maybe you didn't notice.
The amount of faith that Cleary wasted on Moses was zilch.
Now let's see …who were the others you mentioned. Potter and what's his name again,......Taylor. Sorry, I forgot.
You were saying something about well regarded Coaches. I know you wouldn't be referring to them , so I must have missed a line somewhere. :roll

Cleary didn't remove Moses he down-prioritised the negotiations. Moses has been named in every match since Cleary started until the day he got a release.

Neither of us know what is in Cleary's mind, I'm just going off the facts.

So yeah 3 consecutive coaches (plus Webster if you want to count like the DT) played Broses together starting halves, but you think that was a mistake. 3 professionals and you.

I'm sure that even you don't believe the bs that was in that post, now we have The night watchman lowergrade Coach who had no say in who stayed and who didn't . Being another of your "well regarded Coaches.
Funny that your well respected coaches aren't in charge of any First grade club, maybe they're not as respected as you think
The only decent Coach that we have had since Sheens , got rid of him as soon as he Realised what lengths the spoiled brat would go to he dumped him even before having a replacement arrive.
Clutch at as many straws as you like , but the truth still is that the first well respected that we've had in years. Didn't want him here And has now cut him from the club
To use your own words
You really have no idea

Looking forward to your first coaching gig.

Anyway you misunderstand I did not say they were all well-respected coaches, I specifically said well-respected players (Potter, Taylor) and coaches (Cleary).

Point being all 3 of them ran out Broses as their first-choice halves combo. Then Moses is released to Parra and, whaddya know, Brad Arthur puts him straight into the halves as well.

So maybe putting Moses in reserves again ages ago was the best decision, but it seems nobody who has had the opportunity to do that in a professional capacity - not fantasy footy - has actually done that.

But of course you know better, you always do, so let me know when you get a coaching gig and I'll be happy to watch your progress, your excellent team building and player management strategies.

Yeah thanks for admitting that I do know better, if you would like to re read your original answer to me, you will see that you said. "well regarded players and Coaches"
As for Coaching credentials, I'm happy with mine and also the results over a 30 year period.
Keep up the wriggling

 

[jirskyr]

why is everyone so emotional?

it's like watching ACA and complaining about tracy grimshaw…..

This is a good point. I don't watch this crap and I haven't for years. A lot of the Foxtel commentators and all of the DT commentators are even below ACA/60 minutes level.

I wonder who is buying their crap.

I don't get it either. People get all up in arms about the opinions of nobodies. Just stop reading / quoting the DT or NRL 360 if you can't handle what they say. They are just generating content.

There's a reason I got rid of my Foxtel a few years ago - because there's tonnes of content and minimal quality. Watching Game of Thrones, Australian tour of India and the NRL does not justify $79 per month. I'd pay for HD NRL channel if they offered just that, but they don't, so I pulled the whole thing and got NRL Live pass.

NRL 360 is just a symptom of the broader Foxtel idea, and media in general - make people react. Don't just deliver news, get people riled up.

So if you don't like being riled up, don't watch it. Totally easy. Being on the forum is different because you are debating/discussing with interactive people equal to yourself, it's not a one-sided information delivery service.

 

[old_man_tiger]

Basically Elias lied on NRL 360\. Once we accept this as fact we can move on. The Moses deception is nothing more than a typical LEBANESE Welfare Campaign. FACT!

Does no one call this stuff out because they agree?

This is at least the second comment you have made about the issue being related to their background.

It isn't. Myself and many other Lebanese heritage tigers fans are totally in agreement with the clubs actions, and I'm a lot more "Lebanese" than Mitchell Moses.

I understand some people have no idea about our culture, history or heritage and believe everything that the lowest common denominator represents is true of all. Personally I'd rather not read about how we butcher camels (of which there are none in Lebanon), or cheat the system at x, y or z on a rugby league forum.

 

[Bee-Em]

why is everyone so emotional?

it's like watching ACA and complaining about tracy grimshaw…..

This is a good point. I don't watch this crap and I haven't for years. A lot of the Foxtel commentators and all of the DT commentators are even below ACA/60 minutes level.

I wonder who is buying their crap.

I don't get it either. People get all up in arms about the opinions of nobodies. Just stop reading / quoting the DT or NRL 360 if you can't handle what they say. They are just generating content.

There's a reason I got rid of my Foxtel a few years ago - because there's tonnes of content and minimal quality. Watching Game of Thrones, Australian tour of India and the NRL does not justify $79 per month. I'd pay for HD NRL channel if they offered just that, but they don't, so I pulled the whole thing and got NRL Live pass.

NRL 360 is just a symptom of the broader Foxtel idea, and media in general - make people react. Don't just deliver news, get people riled up.

So if you don't like being riled up, don't watch it. Totally easy. Being on the forum is different because you are debating/discussing with interactive people equal to yourself, it's not a one-sided information delivery service.

I started watching NRL 360 mainly because I got sick and tired of that circus called The Footy Show, and the fact that I thought the show was transparent and informative (the jury is still out). Benny Elias was itching to spew forth his 1 sided rubbish as soon as Ikin let him off the leash, but he shut him down pretty quick when he mentioned Ivan was sacked from his last job.

I think Ivan's interview yesterday ruffled a few feathers, certainly wound "backdoor" up a bit

 

[Furious1]

Basically Elias lied on NRL 360\. Once we accept this as fact we can move on. The Moses deception is nothing more than a typical LEBANESE Welfare Campaign. FACT!

Does no one call this stuff out because they agree?

This is at least the second comment you have made about the issue being related to their background.

It isn't. Myself and many other Lebanese heritage tigers fans are totally in agreement with the clubs actions, and I'm a lot more "Lebanese" than Mitchell Moses.

I understand some people have no idea about our culture, history or heritage and believe everything that the lowest common denominator represents is true of all. Personally I'd rather not read about how we butcher camels (of which there are none in Lebanon), or cheat the system at x, y or z on a rugby league forum.

No mate I don't agree. I'm surprised it has been left alone too.

 

[sideline_eye]

It's pathetic Wests tigers in particular cleary are literally just trying to do their jobs and you have this sad lot having having a go at us by manipulating the media.

DT every second day - Your clubs a basketball your so called 3 biggest players left you. WT - Yes we did everything we could to keep them that was not enough for them and they left. We have now recruited arguably better team next year with more players to come. Can we move on?

DT - Moses release welfare blah blah welfare - WT - we did not want to release him didn't have a better player as yet and his contacted and a senior member and a main player for our 2017 team. Moses manager requesting the release incessantly but ultimately we released him because he stopped putting in because he was not getting what he wanted.

The fact the Moses stop trying the last two games and there has been no media about that just shows how much control Isaac Moses has on the media. But Wt gets slammed daily for doing their jobs. See the difference here?

Be careful what you read because Isaac may lurk behind it.

Our club is a basketball?

 

[jadtiger]

Basically Elias lied on NRL 360\. Once we accept this as fact we can move on. The Moses deception is nothing more than a typical LEBANESE Welfare Campaign. FACT!

Does no one call this stuff out because they agree?

This is at least the second comment you have made about the issue being related to their background.

It isn't. Myself and many other Lebanese heritage tigers fans are totally in agreement with the clubs actions, and I'm a lot more "Lebanese" than Mitchell Moses.

I understand some people have no idea about our culture, history or heritage and believe everything that the lowest common denominator represents is true of all. Personally I'd rather not read about how we butcher camels (of which there are none in Lebanon), or cheat the system at x, y or z on a rugby league forum.

I think the majority of people didnt react because it is pointless feeding a troll.Very few people would believe what he stated i read what he said started shaking my head and moved on

 

[old_man_tiger]

Basically Elias lied on NRL 360\. Once we accept this as fact we can move on. The Moses deception is nothing more than a typical LEBANESE Welfare Campaign. FACT!

Does no one call this stuff out because they agree?

This is at least the second comment you have made about the issue being related to their background.

It isn't. Myself and many other Lebanese heritage tigers fans are totally in agreement with the clubs actions, and I'm a lot more "Lebanese" than Mitchell Moses.

I understand some people have no idea about our culture, history or heritage and believe everything that the lowest common denominator represents is true of all. Personally I'd rather not read about how we butcher camels (of which there are none in Lebanon), or cheat the system at x, y or z on a rugby league forum.

I think the majority of people didnt react because it is pointless feeding a troll.Very few people would believe what he stated i read what he said started shaking my head and moved on

Fair enough. I thought he has made some good points about footy and don't like to ignore people for their personal opinions, but perhaps in this case you're right.

 

[Pawsandclaws]

Come on everyone we know the victim card is the last resort of the morally defeated. While the realise for Moses has been achieved, it has done enormous damage to his credibility and the brand of Isaac Moses. I don't doubt WTs' club has become more attractive to players as a consequence of the manner in which Cleary has conducted himself.

 

[jirskyr]

Yeah thanks for admitting that I do know better, if you would like to re read your original answer to me, you will see that you said. "well regarded players and Coaches"
As for Coaching credentials, I'm happy with mine and also the results over a 30 year period.
Keep up the wriggling

Just for the record I am giving up discussing with you, not because you are right, not even because you wore me down with your incessant inanity, but because I don't want to take up more page and thread space trying to make any further points with you. It's like trying to talk sense with Donald Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon.

 

[PD77]

It's pathetic Wests tigers in particular cleary are literally just trying to do their jobs and you have this sad lot having having a go at us by manipulating the media.

DT every second day - Your clubs a basketball your so called 3 biggest players left you. WT - Yes we did everything we could to keep them that was not enough for them and they left. We have now recruited arguably better team next year with more players to come. Can we move on?

DT - Moses release welfare blah blah welfare - WT - we did not want to release him didn't have a better player as yet and his contacted and a senior member and a main player for our 2017 team. Moses manager requesting the release incessantly but ultimately we released him because he stopped putting in because he was not getting what he wanted.

The fact the Moses stop trying the last two games and there has been no media about that just shows how much control Isaac Moses has on the media. But Wt gets slammed daily for doing their jobs. See the difference here?

Be careful what you read because Isaac may lurk behind it.

Our club is a basketball?

Bouncing from one drama to the next?? Constantly dribbling?? :laughing:

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

Yeah thanks for admitting that I do know better, if you would like to re read your original answer to me, you will see that you said. "well regarded players and Coaches"
As for Coaching credentials, I'm happy with mine and also the results over a 30 year period.
Keep up the wriggling

Just for the record I am giving up discussing with you, not because you are right, not even because you wore me down with your incessant inanity, but because I don't want to take up more page and thread space trying to make any further points with you. It's like trying to talk sense with Donald Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon.

No more straws to clutch eh?
Cheers don't forget to read your original post :laughing:

 

[tsjonathan]

without any bias how do you think he will go Saturday against the Raiders? He won't have a recognised half either.

 

[Spud_Murphy]

Thought some of you might get a bit of a laugh out of this. WARNING there is a couple of swear words in the article, that's why I haven't posted it in full.

https://thegreenfieldpost.com.au/the-morning-after-round-10-a83db3412b5f