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Moltzen Staying Or Going
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Wests Tigers fullback Tim Moltzen threatens to sit out the 2012 NRL season if the Dragons don't release him by: James Phelps From: The Sunday Telegraph October 29, 2011 5:43PM
Strike threat: Tim Moltzen has threatened to sit out the 2012 NRL season if the Dragons don't release him from his contract. Picture: Phil Hillyard. Source: The Sunday Telegraph
TIM Moltzen is threatening to sit out the season should he be forced to honour a contract with St George Illawarra.
In a further twist to the contract wrangle, Moltzen has told those close to him that he would rather sit on the sidelines than leave the Tigers.
As the NRL prepares to hand down a recommendation after meeting both clubs last week, The Sunday Telegraph learned of Moltzen's threat.
Moltzen signed with the Dragons but is refusing to honour it, with the Tigers claiming they had not released him from his current deal.
"I am sure it won't come to that," one of Moltzen's Tigers team-mates said.
"I think it will all be worked out, but that is something he would look at."
Moltzen's threat may come from a frustrated player, but it will further infuriate the red and white army after his manager claimed it would be "intolerable" to make his client play for the famous club. Moltzen was set to leave the Tigers after signing a three-year deal with the Dragons until it emerged he had not been granted a release.
Former international Gorden Tallis was the last player to sit out a season when the Dragons refused to release him from a deal after he had signed with the Broncos.
The latest bombshell came after halfback Robert Lui was stood down, creating an opportunity to free up space in the Tigers' salary cap.
This month, Martin Tauber pleaded for the NRL to take his client's wishes into consideration. The fullback was in scintillating form at the end of the season and is extremely close to several Tigers players, including his flatmate Benji Marshall.
"Tim is anxious about this," Tauber said in The Daily Telegraph.
"He is a young man, he's only 22, and he is concerned about his playing future.
"He wants to stay at Wests Tigers. He has a lot of friends there. Hopefully they (NRL) take the kid's wishes into consideration."
With his client facing what could be the most tumultuous week of his life, Tauber was yesterday overseas and unavailable for comment.
NRL spokesman John Brady said an official recommendation was looming after salary cap auditor Ian Schubert met with the warring parties during the week.
"A decision is close, but I am not putting a time frame on it," Brady said.
"Ian met with the relevant parties this week but hasn't divulged any information about those proceedings."
The Dragons return to pre-season training on November 21 and are already planning for life without Moltzen.
The Sunday Telegraph has learned that new coach Steve Price is planning to move Chase Stanley to fullback. He will also consider switching Kiwi Test winger Jason Nightingale, while former Raider Bronx Goodwin will be given an opportunity to nab the spot vacated by Newcastle-bound Darius Boyd.
"It is in the hands of the NRL," a Dragons official said.
"But we won't be going out to buy another fullback.
"We have lots of depth in the outside backs and a number of options for the fullback position."
Moltzen did not answer calls from The Sunday Telegraph yesterday.
Strike threat: Tim Moltzen has threatened to sit out the 2012 NRL season if the Dragons don't release him from his contract. Picture: Phil Hillyard. Source: The Sunday Telegraph
TIM Moltzen is threatening to sit out the season should he be forced to honour a contract with St George Illawarra.
In a further twist to the contract wrangle, Moltzen has told those close to him that he would rather sit on the sidelines than leave the Tigers.
As the NRL prepares to hand down a recommendation after meeting both clubs last week, The Sunday Telegraph learned of Moltzen's threat.
Moltzen signed with the Dragons but is refusing to honour it, with the Tigers claiming they had not released him from his current deal.
"I am sure it won't come to that," one of Moltzen's Tigers team-mates said.
"I think it will all be worked out, but that is something he would look at."
Moltzen's threat may come from a frustrated player, but it will further infuriate the red and white army after his manager claimed it would be "intolerable" to make his client play for the famous club. Moltzen was set to leave the Tigers after signing a three-year deal with the Dragons until it emerged he had not been granted a release.
Former international Gorden Tallis was the last player to sit out a season when the Dragons refused to release him from a deal after he had signed with the Broncos.
The latest bombshell came after halfback Robert Lui was stood down, creating an opportunity to free up space in the Tigers' salary cap.
This month, Martin Tauber pleaded for the NRL to take his client's wishes into consideration. The fullback was in scintillating form at the end of the season and is extremely close to several Tigers players, including his flatmate Benji Marshall.
"Tim is anxious about this," Tauber said in The Daily Telegraph.
"He is a young man, he's only 22, and he is concerned about his playing future.
"He wants to stay at Wests Tigers. He has a lot of friends there. Hopefully they (NRL) take the kid's wishes into consideration."
With his client facing what could be the most tumultuous week of his life, Tauber was yesterday overseas and unavailable for comment.
NRL spokesman John Brady said an official recommendation was looming after salary cap auditor Ian Schubert met with the warring parties during the week.
"A decision is close, but I am not putting a time frame on it," Brady said.
"Ian met with the relevant parties this week but hasn't divulged any information about those proceedings."
The Dragons return to pre-season training on November 21 and are already planning for life without Moltzen.
The Sunday Telegraph has learned that new coach Steve Price is planning to move Chase Stanley to fullback. He will also consider switching Kiwi Test winger Jason Nightingale, while former Raider Bronx Goodwin will be given an opportunity to nab the spot vacated by Newcastle-bound Darius Boyd.
"It is in the hands of the NRL," a Dragons official said.
"But we won't be going out to buy another fullback.
"We have lots of depth in the outside backs and a number of options for the fullback position."
Moltzen did not answer calls from The Sunday Telegraph yesterday.
happy_tiger
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@Muffstar said:
Sorry Muffstar are you saying Moltzen is great and Tallis is a douchebag or vice versa
Tigerdave
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This has gone from stupid to ludicrous, there's a lot of hearsay in that article that he'll sit out a season.
So, why the hell is it taking so long to get a decision on this?
He has a current approved contract with the Tigers for 2012\. If it's clear he hadn't been granted an official release from the Tigers, then it should be fairly clear where he's playing shouldn't it?
So, why the hell is it taking so long to get a decision on this?
He has a current approved contract with the Tigers for 2012\. If it's clear he hadn't been granted an official release from the Tigers, then it should be fairly clear where he's playing shouldn't it?
tigersrule4life
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But lets get one thing right at least his not chasing money and he is loyal and its hard to find these days his a tiger for life thats what i think really!!!!
prattenpark
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If he wasn't chasing money he would never have signed with the dragons in the first place. He could have simply played out the last year of his contract with the Tigers.
Sounds like a right spoilt brat and this shows in his play - hogs the ball, bad positional play etc.
I'd be happy for him to sit the season out, but not quite as happy as watching him blow it big time in the number one at the red V.
On ya bike, Timmy
Sounds like a right spoilt brat and this shows in his play - hogs the ball, bad positional play etc.
I'd be happy for him to sit the season out, but not quite as happy as watching him blow it big time in the number one at the red V.
On ya bike, Timmy
innsaneink
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Why did he sign with saints if he's so loyal?
Why didnt he just take a pay cut?
Sorry….but the above is garbage
Why didnt he just take a pay cut?
Sorry….but the above is garbage
1_4_chicken_chips
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I agree its all becoming garbage.
The NRL once again are showing just how weak they really are .
Its a no brainer,he is either contracted with Wests or Saints. Have the intestional fortune and make the decision so everyone can move on.
The NRL once again are showing just how weak they really are .
Its a no brainer,he is either contracted with Wests or Saints. Have the intestional fortune and make the decision so everyone can move on.
AmericanHistoryX
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the last 2 players that sat out the season that i can remember, terry hill and gordon tallis both went on to play for Australia.
Blackandwhite
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And I thought Inglis was the most stupid footballer in NRL.
We have a new winner.
Sit out the season..that is so funny….Please do.
We have a new winner.
Sit out the season..that is so funny….Please do.
@prattenpark said:
It's not often I read something on here that makes me genuinely angry but this is one occasion. I actually can't understand how anyone with a reasonable degree of intelligence can believe this sort of rubbish, let alone spout it.
"If he wasn't chasing money he would never have signed with the dragons in the first place."
Rubbish. So far as anyone's aware he was told there either wasn't room for him next year or that there might not be. The guy's got to make a living - do you seriously expect him to refuse to look elsewhere under those circumstances?
"He could have simply played out the last year of his contract with the Tigers."
Are you really that naive? He's been told he might not get a game. Just think about what that means for the kid's future for a few seconds. Can you really not understand how he could change his mind from "I'd like to stay at the Tigers but they don't want me, so I'll go and get the best deal I can somewhere else" to "It looks like the Tigers now want me, I've always wanted to play here so I hope I can stay". It's not ideal, but it's also hardly Moltzen's fault. Yet you want him to have a totally black and white (in both ways) mindset: he's a Tiger, then he's a Dragon. Never mind how he's been messed about by the Tigers - frankly I think the club's lucky he still wants to play for them after how he's been treated.
"Sounds like a right spoilt brat and this shows in his play - hogs the ball, bad positional play etc"
Seriously, this is just ridiculous. You think the guy's some kind of playground ball hog? If you really believe he doesn't pass because he's selfish then I strongly suggest that you don't know anything about professional sport, full stop. He, like virtually every other professional sportsman, is striving to be the best he can be. If his passing and positional sense are not the best in the comp that is, I can absolutely assure you, not because he's "a spoilt [sic] brat". Anyway, why would selfishness = bad positional play? You might as well say the reason Benji isn't brilliant defensively is that he's too interested in carvery dinners. Galloway would be quicker if he stopped watching the NFL. Lawrence would be less injury prone if he liked different kinds of t-shirts.
The bottom line is this: you are saying you want your club to lose a good player because of some character traits you have identified from (a) media/fan speculation and (b) some unrelated on-pitch performance matters. If you said you wanted rid of Moltzen because you don't think he's any good then that would be one thing (though I'd still say your player judgement skills would be severely lacking) but to make out like it's some big character issue is just nonsense of the highest degree. Frankly I think the club would be better off without fans like you trying to drive out players based on innuendo, supposition and borderline insane leaps of logic.
tigerbenji
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Member 2041 you are spot on i couldnt of put it any better myself.
GNR4LIFE
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Doesn't matter who is right or wrong, if Moltzen realy does have intentions of sitting out the yr should he not get his own way, then i don't care how you try and justify it, it is the actions of a spoilt brat and he should be embarressed and ashamed to even contemplate such a childish action
@GNR4LIFE said:
And if I'm a murderer I should be in prison; fortunately for all concerned, I'm not. Personally speaking, I'm not even going to consider whether I agree or disagree with your view until I have some evidence that Moltzen is actually contemplating a strike. So far all I've seen is an article in the Sunday Telegraph with a grand total of no supporting quotes. Actually there is one key point in the article which some people here would do well to bear in mind: "Moltzen did not answer calls from The Sunday Telegraph yesterday."
If people would stop jumping to attention every time the Telegraph spins some bollocks it would be the first step to getting those bottom feeders out of the game for good.
GNR4LIFE
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@2041 said:
I've never condoned what Vick did, what he did was dispicable, however since being released from prison has done a full 360 and has raised money for lots of charity's. He served his time and ever since has gone to gone to great lengths to turn his life around. Why doesn't he deserve props for that?
GNR4LIFE
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@2041 said:
geez perhaps if you read where i said the word 'if' you would realize i wasn't 'jumping to attention'. I was saying IF it is true then it is poor form
