Moltzen
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hybrid_tiger
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@tiger05 said:
Scores two tries so let's forget about his pathetic attempt at catching that bomb, his disgraceful kick returns, his poor positioning in defense, and his unwillingness to put his body on the line.
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weststigerman
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As everyone has mentioned, he's not a fullback.
I'd switch him with Brown if Mckinnon is still out next week. I still think he could make a good centre.
I'd switch him with Brown if Mckinnon is still out next week. I still think he could make a good centre.
I said last week that if he played fullback we would cop a hiding. Hate being right, but he is not a fullback's backside. I agree with hybrid. Someone else said "give him time". How much more does he need. It has been seven weeks now and no improvement. Back to reggies please.
On another matter, but mentioned in this discussion, if we sign Sheens for another 2 years we are crazy.
On another matter, but mentioned in this discussion, if we sign Sheens for another 2 years we are crazy.
The_Phantom
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The simple fact is Moltzen is not a fullback.Yes ,he is a talented player,but he is NOT a fullback.
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@tiger05 said:
You're kidding yourself, most people here can see it. Moltzen was not good, the 2 tries he scored flattered him. He had no creativity in attack last night, did not bring the ball back straight and hard like the Broncos fullback did, he was not good in the air and defensively poor once again.
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Offers nothing on kick returns.
Does not direct the defensive line at all.
Was not seen trailing up the middle once. Only on the fringes with his meal ticket Benji
Will not contest for a high ball when any opposition is close
Will not contest a loose ball on the ground
Runs 15m side to side to give it to a winger to get smashed.
Moltzen is the third best halfback option, the second best 5/8 option and the single worst fullback option at the club. Bryce Gibbs would put on a better display at the back and would lay everything on the line for the team. Moltzen wants to be there for the fancy play or the try but is nowhere to be seen when the going gets tough in any position he plays for Wests Tigers.
Bench player at best but Moltzen will continue to be picked at fullback whenever McKinnon even has a minor cold it seems to allow Sheens to continue his little mission of making a half a fullback
Does not direct the defensive line at all.
Was not seen trailing up the middle once. Only on the fringes with his meal ticket Benji
Will not contest for a high ball when any opposition is close
Will not contest a loose ball on the ground
Runs 15m side to side to give it to a winger to get smashed.
Moltzen is the third best halfback option, the second best 5/8 option and the single worst fullback option at the club. Bryce Gibbs would put on a better display at the back and would lay everything on the line for the team. Moltzen wants to be there for the fancy play or the try but is nowhere to be seen when the going gets tough in any position he plays for Wests Tigers.
Bench player at best but Moltzen will continue to be picked at fullback whenever McKinnon even has a minor cold it seems to allow Sheens to continue his little mission of making a half a fullback
Tiger_Watto
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Timmy Choo Shoes Moltzen…. Always standing on his Heels!!! :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
Never been a massive Moltzen fan. Even with all the hype he was getting in pre season, could never understand it. He should be out back up 5/8 if Marshall is injured. Otherwise he can play in jersey 14 and get the token 10 minutes at the end of the game. He just doesn't do any of the little things well. Like competing harder then your opponent, positional play. Things that can go un noticed but all add up to costing your team.
Might sound harsh but if we have to free up some space at the end of the season in our cap Moltzen would be one player I wouldn't be dissapointed to lose. He is not good enough at fullback or halfback for mine. I think his best position is 5/8 and obviously be would be a back up there.
Might sound harsh but if we have to free up some space at the end of the season in our cap Moltzen would be one player I wouldn't be dissapointed to lose. He is not good enough at fullback or halfback for mine. I think his best position is 5/8 and obviously be would be a back up there.
His improvement from last week was out of sight under the bomb, just some miss judgement and no communication lead to him not knowing the dude was coming up on him.
You guys are all mentioning this kick return but there was no opportunities he had to actually do so…
@smeghead saying he wont contest a ball when a opponent is close is a blatant lie i watched him do so last night.
The kid has so much potential to be a threat in NRL, i reallly hope sheensy finds a permanent spot in the starting team for him 😛ray: 😛ray: 😛ray: 😛ray: 😛ray: 😛ray:
You guys are all mentioning this kick return but there was no opportunities he had to actually do so…
@smeghead saying he wont contest a ball when a opponent is close is a blatant lie i watched him do so last night.
The kid has so much potential to be a threat in NRL, i reallly hope sheensy finds a permanent spot in the starting team for him 😛ray: 😛ray: 😛ray: 😛ray: 😛ray: 😛ray:
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I will watch the game again guesty just to double check. Got some time refferences for when he jumped for a high ball with the opposition also contesting?
As far as not knowing YowYeh was approaching WTF? He didn't even leave the ground. What was he going to do, stay planted and claim a catch Union style?
As far as not knowing YowYeh was approaching WTF? He didn't even leave the ground. What was he going to do, stay planted and claim a catch Union style?
@smeghead said:
it's not about evidence, smeg, it's about intent - the Wests Tigers way :arrow_right:
@alexaki said:
He`s definately not going to make it as a fullback, but I maintain Tim Moltzen is a very good 5/8, unfortunately we have the world best playing 5/8 for us in front of him. BUT give Tim Moltzen the football with a bit of space to move and he`s very hard to contain as he again showed last night.
He`s a must for the centres next week and must remain there until Lawrence is back as our other outside backs get the ball with a bit of space to move and freeze like deers in headlights.
Blake Ayshford is an improving footballer so i`m not going to crucify him after one bad game, but last night he was terrible. He talked the talk saying he wanted to mark the best centres in the game such as Hodges, yet last night he did not even attempt to put his shoulder into Hodges rib cage once and was not willing to get deep and run hard onto the football like a decent first grader with his size and strength should be doing.
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I still don't understand why our centres were shifted to opposite sides after Daniellas injury. Brown plays left side in the lower grades and Ayshford is far superior on the right to tthe left
@Kul said:
LOL…you got nothing again, no argument, no point, as usual
Moltzen is proving to be a terrible fullback, no if`s or but`s about it.
BUT I don`t think the criticism of him as a footballer is granted at all. He`s a very, very good ball runner, players who can run the ball as well as him in broken play don`t just fall off trees, they are a dime a dozen.
I would also agree he`s playing timid football which is something he needs to overcome very quickly, but I`m highly confident if you put him in the centres you`ll see a much different footballer.
After all he`s certainly not on his own when it comes to players who are not putting their body on the line (or dogging it as it`s often referred).
BUT I don`t think the criticism of him as a footballer is granted at all. He`s a very, very good ball runner, players who can run the ball as well as him in broken play don`t just fall off trees, they are a dime a dozen.
I would also agree he`s playing timid football which is something he needs to overcome very quickly, but I`m highly confident if you put him in the centres you`ll see a much different footballer.
After all he`s certainly not on his own when it comes to players who are not putting their body on the line (or dogging it as it`s often referred).
fergiefurr
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@guesty123 said:
You obviously weren't at the game and were just taking in what the channel 9 commentators were saying.
Seeing moltzens positioning and Kick returns live is embarrassing
