More talk on Campbelltown's first crowd of 2013

[Mad_Tiger]

One reason which hasnt been brought up for the low crowd was that it was a sunday game… Juniors have their footy trials on Sundays and ALOT of trials were being held around the area and outside the area on that sunday...

My boys had a trial at Thirroul on the day and i know of numerous others who were trialling the same day. It takes out alot of the possible fanbase/attendees when this happens...

Just surprised i havent seen this mentioned anywhere...

 

[Ed_Reschs]

One reason which hasnt been brought up for the low crowd was that it was a sunday game… Juniors have their footy trials on Sundays and ALOT of trials were being held around the area and outside the area on that sunday...

My boys had a trial at Thirroul on the day and i know of numerous others who were trialling the same day. It takes out alot of the possible fanbase/attendees when this happens...

Just surprised i havent seen this mentioned anywhere...

It was also local cricket semi final weekend and I think the group 6 nines were on.

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[clontarfkid]

..and my dog ate my bus pass so i couldnt come either!
Whichever way you cut it,that was a miserable crowd & of great concern to WT I shld think as thats where the future lies,& we need to do whatever we can to capture that opportunity.
Having said that,firsly u cant judge crowds on one game only,as there are always mitigating circumstances,but at the end of the season the bills have to be paid unfortunately,so if theres a sustained lack of patronage you have to push more(but not all)games to where the revenue is optimised

 

[Gary_Bakerloo]

Penrith fans don't even attend Penrith. They had only 8,200 on a sunny Sunday afternoon.

Perhaps there is a more systematic problem in the outer western suburbs and the AFL and A-League is making inroads.

 

[Cosimo_Zaretti]

The fickle ones are those online who bag out crowds of games they havent even attended themselves.

Hey I go to every Leichardt game.

That's part of the problem here isn't it?

 

[Eye_Of_Da_Tiger]

Penrith fans don't even attend Penrith. They had only 8,200 on a sunny Sunday afternoon.

Perhaps there is a more systematic problem in the outer western suburbs and the AFL and A-League is making inroads.

100% correct.It's happening at a rapid rate. I work in the South West and all the Monday talk is about the Western Sydney Wanderers people love them.Parents at schools can't wait to buy memberships for next season. League better be on it's toes they are coming :angry:

 

[AmericanHistoryX]

Well what can Wests Tigers offer the fans that Western Wanderers cant.
People love winning - Wests Tigers are short of that at the moment.
If you want to reconnect buy a batch of big players for 2014 - maybe Feleti Mateo , & 3 big forwards from England - works for Souths - & watch all the fans come back when we are genuine premiership contenders.
The West aint dead - they've just moved to watch a premiership contender in the Wanderers. Thats the bandwagon effect & we dont have it.
Penrith nor Wests are top 8 teams.
Of course theres no crowd. Just the die hards.

 

[Cosimo_Zaretti]

The real reason for the poor crowd at Campbeltown, is that the Tigers per performance in week one didn't merit a decent crowd for the following week. But no one in the Tigers management is going to stand up and say that no one came to the game because they were crap the week before. It's not the spin they're looking for.

I think the A league is a non issue for the NRL, because the seasons only overlap by a few months. Year round football can only be a good thing for sports fans. AFL expansion might stretch things a bit thinner

 

[hybrid_tiger]

The West aint dead - they've just moved to watch a premiership contender in the Wanderers. Thats the bandwagon effect & we dont have it.

While there is certainly a bandwagon effect with the Wanderers right now, they had almost 10,000 turn up at the start of the season. Before they were winning.

 

[Gary_Bakerloo]

Was the poor crowd at Penrith discussed on Triple M on the Grill Team? They seemed to enjoy sinking the boot into Campbelltown the other week. Surely Penrith deserves the same treatment.

 

[AmericanHistoryX]

they say watching a wanderers normal game is better than watching a NRL grandfinal.
According to rugby league supporters attending Wanderers matches.

 

[system]

Was the poor crowd at Penrith discussed on Triple M on the Grill Team? They seemed to enjoy sinking the boot into Campbelltown the other week. Surely Penrith deserves the same treatment.

Yes. Girdler and Johns were happy to let fly on the disgraceful crowd at the Panthers game

 

[hybrid_tiger]

they say watching a wanderers normal game is better than watching a NRL grandfinal.
According to rugby league supporters attending Wanderers matches.

I am a WSW member and the atmosphere is outstanding.

 

[TripleB]

they say watching a wanderers normal game is better than watching a NRL grandfinal.
According to rugby league supporters attending Wanderers matches.

I am a WSW member and the atmosphere is outstanding.

I am also a Wanderers member and can agree that the atmosphere at all of the home games has been great.

I think one thing that the Wanderers have done very well has been the engagement with the community, especially prior to the start of the club. Fan forums were held to obtain input from the potential fans on things such as the name, colours and home ground. They were even asking fan opinions on playing style, the type of players they should be signing and the club culture. Now, I am not sure whether they took a great deal of notice regarding these last few, but they have certainly seemed to provide what the majority of fans were asking for. I am not sure how well this would translate to an existing club with an existing culture, squad and style, but it has definitely helped the fans feel more involved in their club.

We have been made to feel like part of the Wanderers family by everyone at the club. Little things like the CEO coming up to speak to you outside the ground after the game and asking what you thought of the game (with him initiating the contact). The same with the club's "high profile supporter" (Dicko) coming up to you after the game and having a chat. Also the players doing school visits and then remembering the kids names when they see them in the crowd at the next home game. These are all things that make it feel like "your" club, not just the club you support.

 

[MightyMaggy]

they say watching a wanderers normal game is better than watching a NRL grandfinal.
According to rugby league supporters attending Wanderers matches.

I am a WSW member and the atmosphere is outstanding.

I have been a rugby league supporter for over 60 years. I have sneered a bit at soccer for years, even though I took my sons to some games to help them understand the game.
My son and grandson are Wanderers members. I was asked to go to a Wanderers game early in the season, as my grandson was to be a ball boy, as he has for many matches since.
The atmosphere is unbelievable with the chanting of the Red and Black Block and the Corner Post Crew adding to the excitement. You receive free-of-charge a colour, rotogravure magazine, which contains reports on previous Wanderers NRL, Junior reps and Womens matches, articles on Wanderers players and team lists for the Wanderers and their opposition. At the end of the match, the players do a lap of the ground to talk to the fans and for autographs and photos, rather than the clap the fans and quickly get off the field of league teams. The players also make themselves available to talk to and be photographed, as they leave the ground. The Club CEO mingles with the fans and talks about his views on the game, as he leaves the ground.
I went to several matches and enjoyed all of the games.
If people think this is a flash-in-the-pan, they may be slow to act and be caught with their pants down.

 

[hybrid_tiger]

they say watching a wanderers normal game is better than watching a NRL grandfinal.
According to rugby league supporters attending Wanderers matches.

I am a WSW member and the atmosphere is outstanding.

I have been a rugby league supporter for over 60 years. I have sneered a bit at soccer for years, even though I took my sons to some games to help them understand the game.
My son and grandson are Wanderers members. I was asked to go to a Wanderers game early in the season, as my grandson was to be a ball boy, as he has for many matches since.
The atmosphere is unbelievable with the chanting of the Red and Black Block and the Corner Post Crew adding to the excitement. You receive free-of-charge a colour, rotogravure magazine, which contains reports on previous Wanderers NRL, Junior reps and Womens matches, articles on Wanderers players and team lists for the Wanderers and their opposition. At the end of the match, the players do a lap of the ground to talk to the fans and for autographs and photos, rather than the clap the fans and quickly get off the field of league teams. The players also make themselves available to talk to and be photographed, as they leave the ground. The Club CEO mingles with the fans and talks about his views on the game, as he leaves the ground.
I went to several matches and enjoyed all of the games.
If people think this is a flash-in-the-pan, they may be slow to act and be caught with their pants down.

That is great to hear and this is the general sense of satisfaction that many people have expressed after going to a WSW game this season.

If anyone thinks WSW are a flash in the pan they are very mistaken. West Sydney is a HUGE soccer catchment area with massive junior numbers, always has been. You only have to look at how many Socceroos players have come from this area to realise that it is huge.

These people have obviously been crying out for a team (Sydney FC is very much classified by many as only serving the eastern suburbs and city area) and are now turning up in droves. Yes, it helps that the team is winning but they already seem to have a core base of 10,000 that will turn up regardless of form/weather. That is a huge number to build from.

Also, tickets to WSW games are much cheaper than most NRL games. It costs me $25 to sit right on halfway, six rows back from the front. Behind the goals in the active (RBB), non-reserved area it's about $15 I think. Far more affordable for families.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Surely Penrith's crowd is another reason for the crowd being so low that day considering that's who our opponent was. If they aren't going to turn up at their own ground, fat chance of them turning up at somebody elses. People need to remember when you draw a crowd of 20 thousand not all of them are supporting the same team

 

[Juro]

True. There were very few Panthers fans there that day.

 

[wtfl1981]

WESTS Tigers want Campbelltonians to look beyond jersey colour — after public claims on the Advertiser's Facebook page of a disconnection between club and community.

Almost half of the more than 100 comments claimed the Tigers were not being a part of the Campbelltown community, or accused the club of being "too Balmain", blaming this for the poor crowd at the first Campbelltown Stadium game of the season.

But Wests Tigers western suburbs development manager Ben Rogers said actions over the past three years proved the club was committed to the local community.

The club now spends $500,000 a year, provides 10 staff to directly service the area and takes part in several programs and partnerships with local organisations and schools.

"It's an important part of the world for us," Mr Rogers said.

"The crowd figures aren't a reflection of what we'd like but we're not going to give up on the area."

He said the area possessed an extensive talent pool in Campbelltown junior competitions and the club intended to make every effort to produce more local NRL players like Chris Lawrence and James Tedesco.

"We realised we were losing kids so we decided [to do something] to keep them," he said. Mr Rogers also refuted claims the club didn't engage enough with the community.

He said a lot of work occurred behind the scenes in the community, particularly in Macquarie Fields, where several programs were run in co-operation with the police, TAFE and the Koch Centre for Youth.

"There's an enormous amount of things we do that don't get publicised," he said.

Feedback from readers suggested the predominantly orange Wests Tigers jerseys represented Balmain Tigers and failed to acknowledge the Western Suburbs Magpies. But Mr Rogers said people needed to look beyond the playing strip.
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"It's not Balmain, it's a Wests Tigers jersey," he said. "The Magpies jersey was mostly white in the later years and the two Wests Tigers playing strips are orange and white — and the heritage jersey is black and white.

"People want to debate the size and position of the magpie [on the jersey] but we don't want to be Balmain Tigers or Western Suburbs Magpies, we want to be a joint venture."

He also said suggestions Campbelltown should be the club's training base weren't practical.

"There is nowhere here where we can do weights apart from private gyms and we have to pay extra for that," he said. "We train at St Gregory's College for field but then players have to drive back to Concord from Campbelltown to the gym."

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[gazza]

About 8000 more ventured out to LO the next week.So how many of that 8000 would like to tell us why they where missing the week before.