More than three decades after it was defeated in court, a draft could return to the NRL

So, what I got from that is that some committee wants to introduce a draft to level out the competition because the salary cap is apparently not working, but also, said committee consists of the roosters coach, storm general manager, and panthers rugby league chief. How did these teams go in 2024 again?
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Abold plan to introduce a rookie draft to equalise talent as the competition expands will soon be delivered to the NRL and its clubs.

A Pathways Steering Committee (PSC) is finalising a list of recommendations relating to the flow of junior talent into the elite level. They include the introduction of a national under-21s competition, regulations relating to when youngsters can engage an agent, and an accreditation scheme for junior coaches


However, the topic that will spark most interest is the prospect of implementing a rookie draft, which would signal a radical change in the way promising prospects graduate to the NRL. While the AFL has had a draft for top talent since 1986, attempts to introduce the system to rugby league were short-lived.

There hasn’t been a draft in rugby league since 1991, when Terry Hill led a successful legal action by 127 players against the NSWRL that resulted in it being abolished. However, the PSC, which includes Roosters coach Trent Robinson, NRL executive Brock Schaefer, Storm general manager Frank Ponissi, Queensland Rugby League chief executive Ben Ikin and Panthers rugby league chief Matt Cameron, is assessing how player movement is regulated at a time when the NRL is looking to eventually expand to a 20-team competition.


While the salary cap has long been hailed as a successful talent equalisation measure, the divide between the stronger and weaker clubs has never been greater. There have been only three different premiers during the past eight seasons, while Wests Tigers will next year aim to avoid a fourth consecutive wooden spoon and haven’t played a finals game since 2011.


The PSC met last week and is finalising its recommendations. It will deliver its recommendations at the next meeting of club chief executives with a view to then passing them on for the consideration of the ARL Commission before Christmas. While members of the PSC declined to be quoted while the process was ongoing, this masthead has been told a rookie draft is a key plank in the plan.

There are a number of different models being floated. Some of the solutions look at tweaks to the contracting model that could equalise talent without introducing a draft. However, a draft remains a primary consideration, one that could lead the NRL to transform it into an event that is commercialised and promoted like several major sporting organisations overseas, particularly in the US.

Given that a draft would require a teenager to potentially move interstate and overseas, the stakeholders – including the Rugby League Players Association – would want assurances that each club would provide the facilities and support required for them to successfully make the transition. The issue is more relevant than ever given the NRL is looking at introducing new franchises in Papua New Guinea and Perth.


In a bid to level out the competition, the draft would allow clubs to make a pick from the emerging talent pool: teams at the bottom of the ladder would get the first choice and so on until the premiers made their pick. In a bid to reward clubs that develop players – Penrith are considered to have the best junior nursery in the country – one option is to allow every club to quarantine their best junior from the draft process.

Another consideration in dispersing talent is putting a cap on how many players can be contracted to any club academy, as well as limiting how much juniors can be paid at each age group. The measure would prevent the strong development clubs from stockpiling players, resulting in them finishing their footballing apprenticeship at another franchise if they are surplus to requirements.

The other big-ticket item is the potential introduction of a national under-21s competition. It would mark the first such venture since the controversial National Youth Competition (NYC) for under-20s players, which began in 2018 but was disbanded a decade later. 🤔 🤔 🤔


The under-21s teams would be aligned with NRL clubs and would probably play each other once. However, to keep costs down, it would not mirror the home-and-away NRL draw or necessarily act as a curtain-raiser to first grade matches.

Has the problem ever been junior talent spreading around clubs?

I think this just distracts from the real issue which is teams building a roster under the cap that could be the Australian team and win the world cup.

No 18 year old is carrying any clubs on their backs all season to grand final glory.
 
Why is this panel being guided by the 4 richest and most successful clubs in the country? What absurd bias! Their entire findings will be worthless, they're all just going to do what's right for the good of the game, for the clubs at the bottom of the ladder are they??

Lol, no they look after themselves
 
If they bring on a draft for the young players comming through, what is the point of being a developement club, its discouraging clubs to put funds into the juniors. Its benefits the clubs like the Roosters, so how is that equalising. If they bring in a draft maybe it should be for just the contracted players coming off their contracts. That might make players keen to stay with the club there at, rather than taking a chance with a draft.
 
If they bring on a draft for the young players comming through, what is the point of being a developement club, its discouraging clubs to put funds into the juniors. Its benefits the clubs like the Roosters, so how is that equalising. If they bring in a draft maybe it should be for just the contracted players coming off their contracts. That might make players keen to stay with the club there at, rather than taking a chance with a draft.
Agree. Only winners are the clubs with no jr comps.
if we develop the 17 best jrs in the world we probably only keep 1
 
Has the problem ever been junior talent spreading around clubs?

I think this just distracts from the real issue which is teams building a roster under the cap that could be the Australian team and win the world cup.

No 18 year old is carrying any clubs on their backs all season to grand final glory.
The draft and salary cap go hand in hand . The issue with the cap is it’s supposed to be in place along with the draft not without .
Ie. if a team loses its top talent , say Tedesco , than the team faint said talent , say the roosters , is to supply draft picks - players as compensation .
Or in a rookie draft situation , a team that has been dearth of talent , say a 3 time in a row spoon winner , gets access to a potential windfall and franchise changing players , they may not be available normally .
The issue is of course forcing players to come etc . But much like the MLB draft most years there’s 4-5 players who could be taken number 1 , it’s very rare there’s a Galvin / Benji can’t miss prospect (even Galvin has detractors on here ) . So if player 1 doesn’t want to come and player 2 does , then you obviously pick player 2 .
There’s also compensation around players who you do draft and decide not to sign etc.

The moral of all that is the draft is a good thing put it’s not guarantee for parity .
It’s still up to the team and thier talent identification across all levels . And in most leagues with a dysfunctional team in the front office , nearly always leads to one on the field .
In saying that though . The 2 franchises of the past 30 years you would associate with being sustained success ie. the patriots and spurs , are both down the bottom after years of success . So it is still cyclical for most teams .
 
The draft and salary cap go hand in hand . The issue with the cap is it’s supposed to be in place along with the draft not without .
Ie. if a team loses its top talent , say Tedesco , than the team faint said talent , say the roosters , is to supply draft picks - players as compensation .
Or in a rookie draft situation , a team that has been dearth of talent , say a 3 time in a row spoon winner , gets access to a potential windfall and franchise changing players , they may not be available normally .
The issue is of course forcing players to come etc . But much like the MLB draft most years there’s 4-5 players who could be taken number 1 , it’s very rare there’s a Galvin / Benji can’t miss prospect (even Galvin has detractors on here ) . So if player 1 doesn’t want to come and player 2 does , then you obviously pick player 2 .
There’s also compensation around players who you do draft and decide not to sign etc.

The moral of all that is the draft is a good thing put it’s not guarantee for parity .
It’s still up to the team and thier talent identification across all levels . And in most leagues with a dysfunctional team in the front office , nearly always leads to one on the field .
In saying that though . The 2 franchises of the past 30 years you would associate with being sustained success ie. the patriots and spurs , are both down the bottom after years of success . So it is still cyclical for most teams .
I'm not sure what you do with teams that do not produce talent. Where is the incentive for Penrith or Tigers to produce for the rest of the comp?

Further, the college sports system in the US allows players to grow up a little before being drafted. What age would you suggest a player be drafted in rugby league?
 
I'm not sure what you do with teams that do not produce talent. Where is the incentive for Penrith or Tigers to produce for the rest of the comp?

Further, the college sports system in the US allows players to grow up a little before being drafted. What age would you suggest a player be drafted in rugby league?
There is none . The nrl takes over all development , and its cost as well . The only benefit for teams will be things like Father son law , regional teams will get to retain thier own talent etc .
If a Balmain kid enters the draft n played say for Holy cross , and he is of comparable talent , then of course it would be in the tigers best interest to retain that talent . It’s a mind shift , I know , but the current situation where Penrith , the tigers and we’ll Brisbane farm the whole nrl is hardly good either . I worked out today that all bar Sippley at manly , and their whole front row forward stocks from the last season were all tigers , either juniors or like lodge and Aloai , brought over at a very young age .
when teams like Melbourne , manly and the roosters can cherry pick the best kids of the west , with apartments on the beach and post career opportunities , it’s simply not fair . The only way for it to be fair is if the idea of fair or not fair is irrelevant .
 
There is none . The nrl takes over all development , and its cost as well . The only benefit for teams will be things like Father son law , regional teams will get to retain thier own talent etc .
If a Balmain kid enters the draft n played say for Holy cross , and he is of comparable talent , then of course it would be in the tigers best interest to retain that talent . It’s a mind shift , I know , but the current situation where Penrith , the tigers and we’ll Brisbane farm the whole nrl is hardly good either . I worked out today that all bar Sippley at manly , and their whole front row forward stocks from the last season were all tigers , either juniors or like lodge and Aloai , brought over at a very young age .
when teams like Melbourne , manly and the roosters can cherry pick the best kids of the west , with apartments on the beach and post career opportunities , it’s simply not fair . The only way for it to be fair is if the idea of fair or not fair is irrelevant .
So what's to stop a young kid, say a Galvin from leaving after his initial draft contract to the team he wants? Don't we just kick the can down the road?
 
So what's to stop a young kid, say a Galvin from leaving after his initial draft contract to the team he wants? Don't we just kick the can down the road?
The contracts ! In most sports the first free agency after thier draft is restricted . Which means any contract offered the drafting team has the option to retain / match . Also they have the right to offer a 5 year contract instead of 4 . (Not sure about that part though) .
So financially speaking a player is far better off staying with thier current teams after the initial 4 years , and extending .
But much like nrl , a lot of players sign thier rookie extension , wait a year and ask for a trade/ release .
 
The contracts ! In most sports the first free agency after thier draft is restricted . Which means any contract offered the drafting team has the option to retain / match . Also they have the right to offer a 5 year contract instead of 4 . (Not sure about that part though) .
So financially speaking a player is far better off staying with thier current teams after the initial 4 years , and extending .
But much like nrl , a lot of players sign thier rookie extension , wait a year and ask for a trade/ release .
Ok so a player at 18 is drafted to Tigers. We develop them until 23. Putting up with the inevitable errors and inconsistency that comes with young players and they can leave when they are established. What's the point?

Does this even stop players from agitating for a release before the contract is over? Does it stop the club from moving them on if their form doesn't match their pay check? I'm not seeing a strong enough argument for the draft in the NRL yet.
 
Weird thing about the 1991 draft is the lack of information on the actual draft itself. A lot of people remember Terry Hill not liking it and Wally using a loophole to go to the Gold Coast but it seems impossible to find a complete list of draft picks. If Balmain drafted someone I don’t remember who.
 
Ok so a player at 18 is drafted to Tigers. We develop them until 23. Putting up with the inevitable errors and inconsistency that comes with young players and they can leave when they are established. What's the point?

Does this even stop players from agitating for a release before the contract is over? Does it stop the club from moving them on if their form doesn't match their pay check? I'm not seeing a strong enough argument for the draft in the NRL yet.
does it stop it now ? If you didn’t see the contract years it was a 3 year rookie contract into another 4 year extension . Thats 7 years with a player , if they sign at 17/18 that’s 24/25 years old . If by that stage an establishment of trust and ownership of the team , hasn’t been established , well then that probably means your team is beyond shit .
By contrast though , in those 7 years , you’ve had a lot of high draft picks so the likelihood of being bad isn’t high .
Unless you’re the GC suns .
The best teams are going to always be there . They draft better . The Ravens in nfl are always good. So are the Steelers . The 49ers also nearly always have competitive teams . In the AFL the swans are always near the top , yet never have high draft picks . (They get leg ups in other ways though ) . But Collingwood also always have players from other clubs agitating to go there for whatever reason.
If your a team that’s got great talent identification then you’re laughing . If your a team that’s buys star players in free agency , then it might hurt you with the way player contract rights work :
What it does do though . Is it stops Melbourne paying 16 year olds 150k to change clubs . And manly bussing boys from the west all over Sydney .
 
This is really left field but it would be the fairest why to get an even spread .
Instead of the clubs managing there cap it all comes from the NRL , no third party’s , so if Galvin becomings a free agent all bids go to the nrl , the player can’t refuse the highest bid , without third party giving the big clubs a big advantage, it would give the lower clubs a better chance , and it would make clubs utilise there cap better .
This would take a lot of work to get it up but it’s the only way u stop the , roooters , Brisbane , storm , dogs from cheating the system.
Just a left field idea 💡
 
Just an idea, I see everyone complaining that it takes your juniors away..... How about the draft only includes kids that are not yet aligned with clubs??? 18-21 year Olds from country leagues/interstate that have not yet caught the eye of nrl scouts???
 
A juniors draft would unduly punish Penrith & WestsTigers.....(though WT haven't really taken full advantage of such a great RL nursery) ......and mainly assist clubs with bugger all juniors (read Roosters).
 
Whilst not akin to a draft I believe clubs should get much bigger salary cap concessions for local juniors and youngsters not from another clubs junior catchments.
That wouldn't happen whilst Nick Politis or Justin Rodski hold so much sway with the NRL.

I still believe the NRL (basically a NewsCorp vassal) wants to get rid of the WestsTigers & will do so after expanding the comp then culling the team/s it doesn't want.
 
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