OFFICIAL Moses Mbye [Discussion]

@turkeytiger03 said in [Mbye stepping down as captain](/post/1297289) said:
Am I the only one that hopes Tamou isn’t given the captaincy??
We’d be better off blooding Brooks or even Douehi imo

Pretty well!
 
@twentyforty said in [Mbye stepping down as captain](/post/1297393) said:
@weststigerman said in [Mbye stepping down as captain](/post/1297390) said:
@twentyforty said in [Mbye stepping down as captain](/post/1297389) said:
@harvey said in [Mbye stepping down as captain](/post/1297386) said:
Tamou will be a good captain, but will likely only be on the field 45mins a game.

Gives an opportunity to blood someone else while he is taking a breather.


Brooks?

Not a bad idea. It worked for Scott Prince.

Maybe joint captains? Or Brooks as VC.


Brooks is the common denominator. He’s the player, in the position, you want the team to revolve around. He’s the guy who should be controlling possession and field position. He has the skill. He has the competitive streak. It’s time for to be handed more authority imo.



@twentyforty said in [Mbye stepping down as captain](/post/1297393) said:
@weststigerman said in [Mbye stepping down as captain](/post/1297390) said:
@twentyforty said in [Mbye stepping down as captain](/post/1297389) said:
@harvey said in [Mbye stepping down as captain](/post/1297386) said:
Tamou will be a good captain, but will likely only be on the field 45mins a game.

Gives an opportunity to blood someone else while he is taking a breather.


Brooks?

Not a bad idea. It worked for Scott Prince.

Maybe joint captains? Or Brooks as VC.


Brooks is the common denominator. He’s the player, in the position, you want the team to revolve around. He’s the guy who should be controlling possession and field position. He has the skill. He has the competitive streak. It’s time for to be handed more authority imo.

Brooks will be struggling to hold his position let alone have a capacity role .. he has enough of a problem directing himself around the field !
Mbye won the lottery and sleeps soundly every night , the captaincy was a burden , leadership certainly is not his go . I blame the club for putting him in this situation from the start , IMO there were types that thought the captaincy would some how justify the ridiculous amount of money they paid for his services!
 
@tiger_bond said in [Mbye stepping down as captain](/post/1297368) said:
Stay with me on my radical idea........ give the captaincy to Brooks (there I said it)

I think Brook’s mindset will change, whereby, he will finally understand it’s his job to grab the team by the collar and be in control.

If he fails than at the end of season move him on, one way or another.

Sounds like you want to set him up to fail so you can get rid of him.

I think it is a bad idea.
 
@red88_tiger said in [Mbye stepping down as captain](/post/1297377) said:
Captains role imo is to talk to the ref. Some have it some don’t. Thurston was terrible in early days as captain. Mbye would of got better but regardless he is still a leader and can continue to be a leader he just won’t need to talk to ref. Something I believe Madge big on across the park.
If you’ve been leading hand you would also realise having better people in their job under you reflects on how you are perceived at your job.

The question is....Did he ever talk to the Ref?

(not counting when they were walking off at full time).
 
@russell said in [Mbye stepping down as captain](/post/1297412) said:
@tiger_bond said in [Mbye stepping down as captain](/post/1297368) said:
Stay with me on my radical idea........ give the captaincy to Brooks (there I said it)

I think Brook’s mindset will change, whereby, he will finally understand it’s his job to grab the team by the collar and be in control.

If he fails than at the end of season move him on, one way or another.

Sounds like you want to set him up to fail so you can get rid of him.

I think it is a bad idea.


Russell, you obviously haven’t thought it through. Lol
Don’t you think Brooks’ game would improve if he was given more responsibility?
As Harvey posted, Jimmy is expected to be on field for only 45mins. So who is his replacement?
Doueihi?
 
@twentyforty said in [Mbye stepping down as captain](/post/1297418) said:
@russell said in [Mbye stepping down as captain](/post/1297412) said:
@tiger_bond said in [Mbye stepping down as captain](/post/1297368) said:
Stay with me on my radical idea........ give the captaincy to Brooks (there I said it)

I think Brook’s mindset will change, whereby, he will finally understand it’s his job to grab the team by the collar and be in control.

If he fails than at the end of season move him on, one way or another.

Sounds like you want to set him up to fail so you can get rid of him.

I think it is a bad idea.


Russell, you obviously haven’t thought it through. Lol
Don’t you think Brooks’ game would improve if he was given more responsibility?
As Harvey posted, Jimmy is expected to be on field for only 45mins. So who is his replacement?
Doueihi?

I thought it out real good 20/40.

It wasn't the point of making Brooks captain.

It was the point of make him captain and if he fails - move him on.

i.e. Play reasonably well at half - but does not do any good at captain - give him the flick.

Not everyone is a captain - look at Mbye, not a captains bootlace.
 
I thought the Fox Sports article this morning was good PR for the club. Mbye put his support behind Tamou taking the reins, and said that he felt obliged to focus on other players more than himself when he was captain. Sounds like he's not kicking stones about it (at least not publicly), which means it becomes a non-event for the Slothfield types. Good result all round it seems.
 
@tiger_bond said in [Mbye stepping down as captain](/post/1297368) said:
Stay with me on my radical idea........ give the captaincy to Brooks (there I said it)

I think Brook’s mindset will change, whereby, he will finally understand it’s his job to grab the team by the collar and be in control.

If he fails than at the end of season move him on, one way or another.



Not a totally rad notion dude. But it'd have to be done the right way.
I'd let Brooksy get a few games under his belt this year to settle in as the dominant shot-caller first, get comfy running the team his way. All the while he'd be observing and learning from Big Jim, then with Madge's blessings, he could go V/C and get a feel for it from there.
As someone else pointed out, Big Jim will spend a bit of time off the park so, regardless, we will need someone else to fill that void.
Maybe Mbye continues as V/C or Douehei steps up to the mark, seeing as he looks destined to start the season in the halves.
Other than that though, there's not alot of other obvious candidates imo.
As for moving him on, I'm backing Brooksy to get back to his better form, and hopefully supercede our expectations.
 
@adelaidetiger said in [Mbye stepping down as captain](/post/1297424) said:
I thought the Fox Sports article this morning was good PR for the club. Mbye put his support behind Tamou taking the reins, and said that he felt obliged to focus on other players as captain more than himself. Sounds like he's not kicking stones about it (at least not publicly), which means it becomes a non-event for the Slothfield types. Good result all round it seems.

I thought ...gee he must have been thinking of other players in the game against Souffs.

You remember.. the one where he kept running in - in defense and leaving Hoffman isolated to deal with at least two players.

The one where they scored 4 tries.

Glad he was thinking of Hoffman, or it might have been ten tries.
 
Some are born to be captains, most others are not. MBye will now be most happy and able to concentrate on his own play.
 
@russell said in [Mbye stepping down as captain](/post/1297428) said:
@adelaidetiger said in [Mbye stepping down as captain](/post/1297424) said:
I thought the Fox Sports article this morning was good PR for the club. Mbye put his support behind Tamou taking the reins, and said that he felt obliged to focus on other players as captain more than himself. Sounds like he's not kicking stones about it (at least not publicly), which means it becomes a non-event for the Slothfield types. Good result all round it seems.

I thought ...gee he must have been thinking of other players in the game against Souffs.

You remember.. the one where he kept running in - in defense and leaving Hoffman isolated to deal with at least two players.

The one where they scored 4 tries.

Glad he was thinking of Hoffman, or it might have been ten tries.

I think he was more talking about at training/off field stuff. But yeah that was a pretty average performance, the whole left side defence let Hoffman down that night.
 
Jimmy will be a great captain , however he is not an 80 min player , so someone will still have to assume the captaincy when he is not on
 
@twentyforty said in [Mbye stepping down as captain](/post/1297393) said:
@weststigerman said in [Mbye stepping down as captain](/post/1297390) said:
@twentyforty said in [Mbye stepping down as captain](/post/1297389) said:
@harvey said in [Mbye stepping down as captain](/post/1297386) said:
Tamou will be a good captain, but will likely only be on the field 45mins a game.

Gives an opportunity to blood someone else while he is taking a breather.


Brooks?

Not a bad idea. It worked for Scott Prince.

Maybe joint captains? Or Brooks as VC.


Brooks is the common denominator. He’s the player, in the position, you want the team to revolve around. He’s the guy who should be controlling possession and field position. He has the skill. He has the competitive streak. It’s time for to be handed more authority imo.

Brooks had 3 try assists last year!!!

Count them, one, two, three

As a halfback that's unacceptable, so do you really want to give him the burdon of captaining the team too?

Perhaps it's best to get him to be the best halfback he can be and hopefully get more than a pathetic 3 try assists before we go making him captain and adding more to his plate.
 
@russell said in [Mbye stepping down as captain](/post/1297428) said:
@adelaidetiger said in [Mbye stepping down as captain](/post/1297424) said:
I thought the Fox Sports article this morning was good PR for the club. Mbye put his support behind Tamou taking the reins, and said that he felt obliged to focus on other players as captain more than himself. Sounds like he's not kicking stones about it (at least not publicly), which means it becomes a non-event for the Slothfield types. Good result all round it seems.

I thought ...gee he must have been thinking of other players in the game against Souffs.

You remember.. the one where he kept running in - in defense and leaving Hoffman isolated to deal with at least two players.

The one where they scored 4 tries.

Glad he was thinking of Hoffman, or it might have been ten tries.

Hoffman had a unlucky night..defnece inside of him was so crap
 
@thedaboss said in [Mbye stepping down as captain](/post/1297453) said:
@russell said in [Mbye stepping down as captain](/post/1297428) said:
@adelaidetiger said in [Mbye stepping down as captain](/post/1297424) said:
I thought the Fox Sports article this morning was good PR for the club. Mbye put his support behind Tamou taking the reins, and said that he felt obliged to focus on other players as captain more than himself. Sounds like he's not kicking stones about it (at least not publicly), which means it becomes a non-event for the Slothfield types. Good result all round it seems.

I thought ...gee he must have been thinking of other players in the game against Souffs.

You remember.. the one where he kept running in - in defense and leaving Hoffman isolated to deal with at least two players.

The one where they scored 4 tries.

Glad he was thinking of Hoffman, or it might have been ten tries.

Hoffman had a unlucky night..defnece inside of him was so crap

Mbye had a poor night that night, but he was still our best defensive back in 2020 with the exception of Brooks imo.
 
@gallagher said in [Mbye stepping down as captain](/post/1297416) said:
He had to go, he barely looked interested in some games.

That statement could apply to 10 players who have gone.
If you’re talking about Mbye, I agree gall, he had his opportunity when Madge was kicking the chair to get on his feet and kick the thing himself. Madge needs a captain who will carry his message. imo
 
I'm glad he has stepped down but very pleased it was done with grace and not bitterness (outward anyway). It clears the way for Tamou and also leaves clear any potential hiccups if Mbye manages to get a QLD club seeking his services and wanting to negotiate. Not being captain makes that just a bit easier.

I dont think he was a great captain and his onfield actions / inactions certainly didnt display much passion and strategic thinking. Anyhow, good luck to him.
 
@hangonaminute said in [Mbye stepping down as captain](/post/1297448) said:
@twentyforty said in [Mbye stepping down as captain](/post/1297393) said:
@weststigerman said in [Mbye stepping down as captain](/post/1297390) said:
@twentyforty said in [Mbye stepping down as captain](/post/1297389) said:
@harvey said in [Mbye stepping down as captain](/post/1297386) said:
Tamou will be a good captain, but will likely only be on the field 45mins a game.

Gives an opportunity to blood someone else while he is taking a breather.


Brooks?

Not a bad idea. It worked for Scott Prince.

Maybe joint captains? Or Brooks as VC.


Brooks is the common denominator. He’s the player, in the position, you want the team to revolve around. He’s the guy who should be controlling possession and field position. He has the skill. He has the competitive streak. It’s time for to be handed more authority imo.

Brooks had 3 try assists last year!!!

Count them, one, two, three

As a halfback that's unacceptable, so do you really want to give him the burdon of captaining the team too?

Perhaps it's best to get him to be the best halfback he can be and hopefully get more than a pathetic 3 try assists before we go making him captain and adding more to his plate.


Brooks has 5 TA on fox sports lab? Anyway, you’re basing your opinion on raw data, which needs to be put in context. Benji has 21 TA to his name. Did that raw data save Benji? Why not? Brooks May have been instructed to run? He has 111 runs to Benji’s 49? How many times did Brooks get clean ball with an opposition on the back foot or last tackle in the forty compared to Benji?
I want to see Brooks take the attacking kicks, short and long. Admittedly, his short kicking game went off the boil for some unknown reason, but he definitely has the skill, and it’s the coach’s job to expose that whatever way he can.
 
@carltonleach said in [Mbye stepping down as captain](/post/1297374) said:
It’s a shame really, u can see that mbye has bought into the tigers a lot and the fact u could visibly see the tears in his eyes it shows that he truly wanted to be the leader the tigers needed. Unfortunately this day and age it is easier to blame the captain and coaches then it is for individuals to put there hand up and admit they wer far below there best since mbyes time as captain (mbye definitely hasn’t played his best footy either)!! I will admit I think it’s the best move for him as player and I think he will put his best foot forward and play some good footy just a shame that it had to be this way for him!!

His eyes looked fine to me.
 

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