OFFICIAL Moses Mbye [Discussion]

@CocaCola said in [Mbye has to go\.\.\.](/post/1200999) said:
@gallagher said in [Mbye has to go\.\.\.](/post/1200230) said:
@CocaCola said in [Mbye has to go\.\.\.](/post/1200217) said:
Based on his goal kicking, he must have double vision.

That would explain his 93% record on the 2nd set of posts.

He's made for AFL?

Brisbane Lions 19.6 - (120) def. Richmond Tigers 2.16 - (38)

Richmond star recruit Mbye kicked 8 behinds in Richmonds 9th consecutive loss for the season. Mybe is under scrutiny since switching codes, the small forward has kicked 3 goals and 23 behinds for the season.

Moses doesn’t kick any behinds and plenty of our guys deserve it
 
Unfortunately players on good contracts are not going anywhere they can't earn the same money and why should they WT'S need to make the best out of a bad situation First Mbye to FB or 5/8
AD to 5/8 or even lock big boy can tackle
Reynolds to 1/2
Liddle & Simpkins to share the hooking role
Packer/Twal starting FR Lucy starting SR
remaining forwards making up bench and other starting positions.
Madden if fit given a go against the dogs their the closest team to a CC side
 
Look everyone criticising Mbye for his play is understandable as he's playing awful, but the lack of effort comments are a bit rich. He made 59 tackles, missing 1.

Our forwards got rolled in the middle, and one of the main reasons for that is because Packer has reverted to his old form of just not doing hitups. He did 4 in 55 minutes and ran for 30 metres. When your highest paid and most experienced middle throws up that sort of garbage you don't stand a chance.
 
@gallagher said in [Mbye has to go\.\.\.](/post/1201130) said:
@diedpretty said in [Mbye has to go\.\.\.](/post/1201099) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Mbye has to go\.\.\.](/post/1200733) said:
Aloiai in forward to get 100m


Packer 30

Blore 60

Anyone think Blore Still as good as the first game??

Metre stats are so misleading - needs to be taken in conjunction with possession percentage when certain players are on. Hard to get running metres if you only have 30% possession over a 10 - 15 minute period.

Your telling me Packer only had 4 occasions available to run the ball?

Where did i say that - i am saying running stats are misleading.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Mbye has to go\.\.\.](/post/1201145) said:
Look everyone criticising Mbye for his play is understandable as he's playing awful, but the lack of effort comments are a bit rich. He made 59 tackles, missing 1.

Our forwards got rolled in the middle, and one of the main reasons for that is because Packer has reverted to his old form of just not doing hitups. He did 4 in 55 minutes and ran for 30 metres. When your highest paid and most experienced middle throws up that sort of garbage you don't stand a chance.

Was the 1 when he fell over as Pongo strolled past..

Plus forwards getting owned doesn't apply to the halves so why should it apply to the hooker who defends in the middle of the field where ummm the forwards got owned..
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Mbye has to go\.\.\.](/post/1201145) said:
Look everyone criticising Mbye for his play is understandable as he’s playing awful, but the lack of effort comments are a bit rich. He made 59 tackles, missing 1.

He definitely puts in. He also looked good in a lot of facets of his game at hooker. He gets involved there - as you state heis defense was pretty good. He has some speed and he provides good service. The problem was the lack of discipline in his game (giving away penalties in the ruck), the dropped ball and the fact he is paid as a star player when he clearly isn't.
 
@Geo said in [Mbye has to go\.\.\.](/post/1201167) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Mbye has to go\.\.\.](/post/1201145) said:
Look everyone criticising Mbye for his play is understandable as he's playing awful, but the lack of effort comments are a bit rich. He made 59 tackles, missing 1.

Our forwards got rolled in the middle, and one of the main reasons for that is because Packer has reverted to his old form of just not doing hitups. He did 4 in 55 minutes and ran for 30 metres. When your highest paid and most experienced middle throws up that sort of garbage you don't stand a chance.

Was the 1 when he fell over as Pongo strolled past..

Plus forwards getting owned doesn't apply to the halves so why should it apply to the hooker who defends in the middle of the field where ummm the forwards got owned..

I assume so. I'm not saying he played well, I don't think he did and I think he's fallen off a cliff since start of last season. My comment was about him not trying or putting in any effort. You can't make almost 60 tackles without making an effort.

Re: the forwards, I wasn't tying it to Mbye's game at all, just saying if you want to question someone's effort, question the guy who didn't take hit ups when we needed him to.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Mbye has to go\.\.\.](/post/1201145) said:
Look everyone criticising Mbye for his play is understandable as he's playing awful, but the lack of effort comments are a bit rich. He made 59 tackles, missing 1.

Our forwards got rolled in the middle, and one of the main reasons for that is because Packer has reverted to his old form of just not doing hitups. He did 4 in 55 minutes and ran for 30 metres. When your highest paid and most experienced middle throws up that sort of garbage you don't stand a chance.

Hard to argue with that and can't expect Maguire to ignore it. Sometimes stats do matter.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Mbye has to go\.\.\.](/post/1201173) said:
@Geo said in [Mbye has to go\.\.\.](/post/1201167) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Mbye has to go\.\.\.](/post/1201145) said:
Look everyone criticising Mbye for his play is understandable as he's playing awful, but the lack of effort comments are a bit rich. He made 59 tackles, missing 1.

Our forwards got rolled in the middle, and one of the main reasons for that is because Packer has reverted to his old form of just not doing hitups. He did 4 in 55 minutes and ran for 30 metres. When your highest paid and most experienced middle throws up that sort of garbage you don't stand a chance.

Was the 1 when he fell over as Pongo strolled past..

Plus forwards getting owned doesn't apply to the halves so why should it apply to the hooker who defends in the middle of the field where ummm the forwards got owned..

I assume so. I'm not saying he played well, I don't think he did and I think he's fallen off a cliff since start of last season. My comment was about him not trying or putting in any effort. You can't make almost 60 tackles without making an effort.

Re: the forwards, I wasn't tying it to Mbye's game at all, just saying if you want to question someone's effort, question the guy who didn't take hit ups when we needed him to.

Has anybody considered that Mbye may have been trying to hard to do the right thing by the team,he didnt do to badly at hooker the other night and he may have been over enthusiastic during play the balls so as to let the team set up defensively...I watched the replay and can honestly say from a person who has played the game that Mbyes effort was solid and he was trying to be a leader as well...dont forget Grant who everybody has said has been brilliant at hooker wasnt there on Sat and Moses was the best fill in for the game..
The forwards did get owned,Harry was out who is pivitol in this team,Benji had defense issues and overall the team just didnt play committed ...
Madge has to sort their heads out,but to say Moses doesnt put in the effort is a bit harsh...Madge must know a lot more than us to keep putting him in the team...
 
All of our forwards go missing when the going gets tough. The only forwards I see genuinely roll their sleeves up and take hit ups are LL and Aloiai occasionally..the rest are puss

On Mbye, the effort was there but he just doesn’t have what it takes. In grade there’s only so far effort can take you
 
I,ve been saying all year that Mbye is useless and the squad must be aware of it .This plus the fact he is captain must really piss the players off! BAAAAD FOR MORALE.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Mbye has to go\.\.\.](/post/1201145) said:
Look everyone criticising Mbye for his play is understandable as he's playing awful, but the lack of effort comments are a bit rich. He made 59 tackles, missing 1.

Our forwards got rolled in the middle, and one of the main reasons for that is because Packer has reverted to his old form of just not doing hitups. He did 4 in 55 minutes and ran for 30 metres. When your highest paid and most experienced middle throws up that sort of garbage you don't stand a chance.

If he’d of made 61 tackles maybe we wouldn’t be bagging him
Or giving away repeat sets

He’s trash 🗑
 
@hobbo1 said in [Mbye has to go\.\.\.](/post/1201257) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Mbye has to go\.\.\.](/post/1201145) said:
Look everyone criticising Mbye for his play is understandable as he's playing awful, but the lack of effort comments are a bit rich. He made 59 tackles, missing 1.

Our forwards got rolled in the middle, and one of the main reasons for that is because Packer has reverted to his old form of just not doing hitups. He did 4 in 55 minutes and ran for 30 metres. When your highest paid and most experienced middle throws up that sort of garbage you don't stand a chance.

If he’d of made 61 tackles maybe we wouldn’t be bagging him
Or giving away repeat sets

He’s trash ?

What’s that got to do with effort?
 
@Geo said in [Mbye has to go\.\.\.](/post/1201167) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Mbye has to go\.\.\.](/post/1201145) said:
Look everyone criticising Mbye for his play is understandable as he's playing awful, but the lack of effort comments are a bit rich. He made 59 tackles, missing 1.

Our forwards got rolled in the middle, and one of the main reasons for that is because Packer has reverted to his old form of just not doing hitups. He did 4 in 55 minutes and ran for 30 metres. When your highest paid and most experienced middle throws up that sort of garbage you don't stand a chance.

Was the 1 when he fell over as Pongo strolled past..

Plus forwards getting owned doesn't apply to the halves so why should it apply to the hooker who defends in the middle of the field where ummm the forwards got owned..

Which time .....Pongo did enough strolling past us for 3 games ...let alone 1
 
@Speed2burn said in [Mbye has to go\.\.\.](/post/1201227) said:
All of our forwards go missing when the going gets tough. The only forwards I see genuinely roll their sleeves up and take hit ups are LL and Aloiai occasionally..the rest are puss

On Mbye, the effort was there but he just doesn’t have what it takes. In grade there’s only so far effort can take you

Blore also looks likely. Every other forward goes missing way too often.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Mbye has to go\.\.\.](/post/1201258) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Mbye has to go\.\.\.](/post/1201257) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Mbye has to go\.\.\.](/post/1201145) said:
Look everyone criticising Mbye for his play is understandable as he's playing awful, but the lack of effort comments are a bit rich. He made 59 tackles, missing 1.

Our forwards got rolled in the middle, and one of the main reasons for that is because Packer has reverted to his old form of just not doing hitups. He did 4 in 55 minutes and ran for 30 metres. When your highest paid and most experienced middle throws up that sort of garbage you don't stand a chance.

If he’d of made 61 tackles maybe we wouldn’t be bagging him
Or giving away repeat sets

He’s trash ?

What’s that got to do with effort?

More effort required
 
@hobbo1 said in [Mbye has to go\.\.\.](/post/1201272) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Mbye has to go\.\.\.](/post/1201258) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Mbye has to go\.\.\.](/post/1201257) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Mbye has to go\.\.\.](/post/1201145) said:
Look everyone criticising Mbye for his play is understandable as he's playing awful, but the lack of effort comments are a bit rich. He made 59 tackles, missing 1.

Our forwards got rolled in the middle, and one of the main reasons for that is because Packer has reverted to his old form of just not doing hitups. He did 4 in 55 minutes and ran for 30 metres. When your highest paid and most experienced middle throws up that sort of garbage you don't stand a chance.

If he’d of made 61 tackles maybe we wouldn’t be bagging him
Or giving away repeat sets

He’s trash ?

What’s that got to do with effort?

More effort required

Sounds like it’s time to kick some chairs then
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Mbye has to go\.\.\.](/post/1201276) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Mbye has to go\.\.\.](/post/1201272) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Mbye has to go\.\.\.](/post/1201258) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Mbye has to go\.\.\.](/post/1201257) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Mbye has to go\.\.\.](/post/1201145) said:
Look everyone criticising Mbye for his play is understandable as he's playing awful, but the lack of effort comments are a bit rich. He made 59 tackles, missing 1.

Our forwards got rolled in the middle, and one of the main reasons for that is because Packer has reverted to his old form of just not doing hitups. He did 4 in 55 minutes and ran for 30 metres. When your highest paid and most experienced middle throws up that sort of garbage you don't stand a chance.

If he’d of made 61 tackles maybe we wouldn’t be bagging him
Or giving away repeat sets

He’s trash ?

What’s that got to do with effort?

More effort required

Sounds like it’s time to kick some chairs then

Kicking chairs is pretty lame

Have Tommy hang an ox's heart off the dressing room door ...waiting for him to tell us to take a bite from it .....thank God we only had to grab it lol
 
@boonboon said in [Mbye has to go\.\.\.](/post/1199605) said:
To give him some credit - he is a centre/fullback playing at hooker and he made 59 tackles and only missed 1 all be it one that lead to a try.


Think if you watch the game in more detail the 59 tackles he seemed to be third man in with quite a few and never took the initial impact.
Agree 59 tackles is a solid performance but he played for 80 minutes also made a number of errors early on that deflated the team.
On another note Benji was named Captain this week something that was not spoke about at all, Mybe was dropped from being captain or relinquished it just like his goal kicking duties when misses early on.
Never have questioned his defense that's what Madge likes but every other facet of his game is woeful, should be a bench player.
Mybe is also one of the smarter footballers and can talk the talk with the corporate partners that's another reason he is Captain, but leadership on field is non existent.
Unsure who you would make captain when you look at the squad overall?
 

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