OFFICIAL Moses Mbye [Discussion]

[Speed2burn]

All of our forwards go missing when the going gets tough. The only forwards I see genuinely roll their sleeves up and take hit ups are LL and Aloiai occasionally..the rest are puss

On Mbye, the effort was there but he just doesn’t have what it takes. In grade there’s only so far effort can take you

Blore also looks likely. Every other forward goes missing way too often.

Blore is the goods aswell however for some reason only gets limited minutes

I get he is young and they’re easing him in but not sure playing the same low minutes every week is the answer. They should be pushing him for more minutes every week

 

[earl]

All of our forwards go missing when the going gets tough. The only forwards I see genuinely roll their sleeves up and take hit ups are LL and Aloiai occasionally..the rest are puss

On Mbye, the effort was there but he just doesn’t have what it takes. In grade there’s only so far effort can take you

Blore also looks likely. Every other forward goes missing way too often.

Blore is the goods aswell however for some reason only gets limited minutes

I get he is young and they’re easing him in but not sure playing the same low minutes every week is the answer. They should be pushing him for more minutes every week

He should be a leader in our pack. He hits hard and appears to have a great attitude. I think he was the Australian schoolboys captain. I'm assuming he isn't going to get into trouble ala Suli or someone like that. If not let's have him playing big minutes and starting.

 

[Lauren]

Agree with @TYGA that the overall team's inability to accept their own responsibilities is playing a heavy toll on how we work collectively.

I think that Mbye - like Lawrence - is putting the effort in each week and my only criticism of him has always been that as the nominated captain he's expected to do more. I actually thought he would've benefited young AJ on the weekend but his role was obviously switched to help out the team.
Regardless if you're a fan of him or not, he's one of very few players in our team with a decent skillset and a variety of skills that can effectively help get this team out of trouble. He needs only to show some confidence in his own ability.

 

[Speed2burn]

All of our forwards go missing when the going gets tough. The only forwards I see genuinely roll their sleeves up and take hit ups are LL and Aloiai occasionally..the rest are puss

On Mbye, the effort was there but he just doesn’t have what it takes. In grade there’s only so far effort can take you

Blore also looks likely. Every other forward goes missing way too often.

Blore is the goods aswell however for some reason only gets limited minutes

I get he is young and they’re easing him in but not sure playing the same low minutes every week is the answer. They should be pushing him for more minutes every week

He should be a leader in our pack. He hits hard and appears to have a great attitude. I think he was the Australian schoolboys captain. I'm assuming he isn't going to get into trouble ala Suli or someone like that. If not let's have him playing big minutes and starting.

Yeah he’s a natural leader. Captained the last NSW under 18s side

To put into perspective the last 2 captains that did that were Cam Murray and Payne Haas so quite the pedigree. Too bad he’ll leave us, any smart future prospect would leave this train wreck

 

[the_third]

The biggest concern I have at the moment is if the players are over Madge. The effort in the second half last week, following Madge's spray, followed by what they dished up tonight looked way too much like a team that has lost, or is losing, its spirit. I wonder has Madge learnt from his days at Souths. Time for some varied man management I think.

Look at how he handles Douhei at half time and full time. I very much doubt we see his man management style

 

[gallagher]

Aloiai in forward to get 100m


Packer 30

Blore 60

Anyone think Blore Still as good as the first game??

Metre stats are so misleading - needs to be taken in conjunction with possession percentage when certain players are on. Hard to get running metres if you only have 30% possession over a 10 - 15 minute period.

Your telling me Packer only had 4 occasions available to run the ball?

Where did i say that - i am saying running stats are misleading.

A lot of times,yes. 4 runs in a game isn't misleading IMO.

 

[Russell]

Probably JR but I wish it was Mbye. I’m well and truly over Mbye.

Mbye will probably have a blinder next year playing for a contract, which to me will prove that he is dogging it now.

Mbye isn’t capable of having a blinder ..
Especially for an entire season

Trouble is Mbye's idea of a blinder is to tie a handkerchief over his eyes.

 

[jirskyr]

All of our forwards go missing when the going gets tough. The only forwards I see genuinely roll their sleeves up and take hit ups are LL and Aloiai occasionally..the rest are puss

On Mbye, the effort was there but he just doesn’t have what it takes. In grade there’s only so far effort can take you

Blore also looks likely. Every other forward goes missing way too often.

Blore is the goods aswell however for some reason only gets limited minutes

I get he is young and they’re easing him in but not sure playing the same low minutes every week is the answer. They should be pushing him for more minutes every week

He should be a leader in our pack. He hits hard and appears to have a great attitude. I think he was the Australian schoolboys captain. I'm assuming he isn't going to get into trouble ala Suli or someone like that. If not let's have him playing big minutes and starting.

Yeah he’s a natural leader. Captained the last NSW under 18s side

To put into perspective the last 2 captains that did that were Cam Murray and Payne Haas so quite the pedigree. Too bad he’ll leave us, any smart future prospect would leave this train wreck

Certainly upbeat aren't you?

 

[Russell]

Look everyone criticising Mbye for his play is understandable as he's playing awful, but the lack of effort comments are a bit rich. He made 59 tackles, missing 1.

Our forwards got rolled in the middle, and one of the main reasons for that is because Packer has reverted to his old form of just not doing hitups. He did 4 in 55 minutes and ran for 30 metres. When your highest paid and most experienced middle throws up that sort of garbage you don't stand a chance.

How much ball / possession did we have in that 55 minutes and how many tackles did he make?

How many times did Mbye NOT give him the ball?

I'll say one thing Avo your quoted figures have been the same for Packer, every time you posted in this and other threads.

Bad luck our team are not as consistent as you. Well done.

 

[Speed2burn]

All of our forwards go missing when the going gets tough. The only forwards I see genuinely roll their sleeves up and take hit ups are LL and Aloiai occasionally..the rest are puss

On Mbye, the effort was there but he just doesn’t have what it takes. In grade there’s only so far effort can take you

Blore also looks likely. Every other forward goes missing way too often.

Blore is the goods aswell however for some reason only gets limited minutes

I get he is young and they’re easing him in but not sure playing the same low minutes every week is the answer. They should be pushing him for more minutes every week

He should be a leader in our pack. He hits hard and appears to have a great attitude. I think he was the Australian schoolboys captain. I'm assuming he isn't going to get into trouble ala Suli or someone like that. If not let's have him playing big minutes and starting.

Yeah he’s a natural leader. Captained the last NSW under 18s side

To put into perspective the last 2 captains that did that were Cam Murray and Payne Haas so quite the pedigree. Too bad he’ll leave us, any smart future prospect would leave this train wreck

Certainly upbeat aren't you?

I’ve been very upbeat. Even after the warriors game I thought it was more of a case they played very well more than us being bad

However the knights game officially broke me in terms of thinking this club has made any progress

 

[jirskyr]

However the knights game officially broke me in terms of thinking this club has made any progress

So then you aren't upbeat any longer.

Saying "player X is going to leave us in the future, of course he would, we suck" or similar; I mean, I understand the emotion, but it's a pointless comment, even for a forum, it cannot be discussed or debated because it's so fatalistic.

 

[avocadoontoast]

Look everyone criticising Mbye for his play is understandable as he's playing awful, but the lack of effort comments are a bit rich. He made 59 tackles, missing 1.

Our forwards got rolled in the middle, and one of the main reasons for that is because Packer has reverted to his old form of just not doing hitups. He did 4 in 55 minutes and ran for 30 metres. When your highest paid and most experienced middle throws up that sort of garbage you don't stand a chance.

How much ball / possession did we have in that 55 minutes and how many tackles did he make?

How many times did Mbye NOT give him the ball?

I'll say one thing Avo your quoted figures have been the same for Packer, every time you posted in this and other threads.

Bad luck our team are not as consistent as you. Well done.

So it's Mbye's fault that Packer only made 4 runs? That is hilarious. In a game where he should have really had a dig and led by example, he disappeared. He's lazy.

 

[Russell]

Look everyone criticising Mbye for his play is understandable as he's playing awful, but the lack of effort comments are a bit rich. He made 59 tackles, missing 1.

Our forwards got rolled in the middle, and one of the main reasons for that is because Packer has reverted to his old form of just not doing hitups. He did 4 in 55 minutes and ran for 30 metres. When your highest paid and most experienced middle throws up that sort of garbage you don't stand a chance.

How much ball / possession did we have in that 55 minutes and how many tackles did he make?

How many times did Mbye NOT give him the ball?

I'll say one thing Avo your quoted figures have been the same for Packer, every time you posted in this and other threads.

Bad luck our team are not as consistent as you. Well done.

So it's Mbye's fault that Packer only made 4 runs? That is hilarious. In a game where he should have really had a dig and led by example, he disappeared. He's lazy.

Nice comment but could you answer the questions please?

 

[Speed2burn]

However the knights game officially broke me in terms of thinking this club has made any progress

So then you aren't upbeat any longer.

Saying "player X is going to leave us in the future, of course he would, we suck" or similar; I mean, I understand the emotion, but it's a pointless comment, even for a forum, it cannot be discussed or debated because it's so fatalistic.

That’s not very upbeat of you

 

[avocadoontoast]

Look everyone criticising Mbye for his play is understandable as he's playing awful, but the lack of effort comments are a bit rich. He made 59 tackles, missing 1.

Our forwards got rolled in the middle, and one of the main reasons for that is because Packer has reverted to his old form of just not doing hitups. He did 4 in 55 minutes and ran for 30 metres. When your highest paid and most experienced middle throws up that sort of garbage you don't stand a chance.

How much ball / possession did we have in that 55 minutes and how many tackles did he make?

How many times did Mbye NOT give him the ball?

I'll say one thing Avo your quoted figures have been the same for Packer, every time you posted in this and other threads.

Bad luck our team are not as consistent as you. Well done.

So it's Mbye's fault that Packer only made 4 runs? That is hilarious. In a game where he should have really had a dig and led by example, he disappeared. He's lazy.

Nice comment but could you answer the questions please?

He made 37 tackles but don't know our possession, we had 47% for the game.

He touched the ball 5 times the entire game.

 

[jirskyr]

However the knights game officially broke me in terms of thinking this club has made any progress

So then you aren't upbeat any longer.

Saying "player X is going to leave us in the future, of course he would, we suck" or similar; I mean, I understand the emotion, but it's a pointless comment, even for a forum, it cannot be discussed or debated because it's so fatalistic.

That’s not very upbeat of you

Nice try

 

[Russell]

Look everyone criticising Mbye for his play is understandable as he's playing awful, but the lack of effort comments are a bit rich. He made 59 tackles, missing 1.

Our forwards got rolled in the middle, and one of the main reasons for that is because Packer has reverted to his old form of just not doing hitups. He did 4 in 55 minutes and ran for 30 metres. When your highest paid and most experienced middle throws up that sort of garbage you don't stand a chance.

How much ball / possession did we have in that 55 minutes and how many tackles did he make?

How many times did Mbye NOT give him the ball?

I'll say one thing Avo your quoted figures have been the same for Packer, every time you posted in this and other threads.

Bad luck our team are not as consistent as you. Well done.

So it's Mbye's fault that Packer only made 4 runs? That is hilarious. In a game where he should have really had a dig and led by example, he disappeared. He's lazy.

Nice comment but could you answer the questions please?

He made 37 tackles but don't know our possession, we had 47% for the game.

He touched the ball 5 times the entire game.

Firstly Avo, thanks for the info, Well 37 tackles is not bad, however......

Apart from pushing Mbye out of DH or a one on one strip of the ball off the
opposition I'm not sure how he could get the ball to increase his hitups.

You think it funny - but he made himself available to get the ball, what else
could he do?

You say don't blame Mbye - he is the man with the ball, who else should we
blame?

 

[avocadoontoast]

Look everyone criticising Mbye for his play is understandable as he's playing awful, but the lack of effort comments are a bit rich. He made 59 tackles, missing 1.

Our forwards got rolled in the middle, and one of the main reasons for that is because Packer has reverted to his old form of just not doing hitups. He did 4 in 55 minutes and ran for 30 metres. When your highest paid and most experienced middle throws up that sort of garbage you don't stand a chance.

How much ball / possession did we have in that 55 minutes and how many tackles did he make?

How many times did Mbye NOT give him the ball?

I'll say one thing Avo your quoted figures have been the same for Packer, every time you posted in this and other threads.

Bad luck our team are not as consistent as you. Well done.

So it's Mbye's fault that Packer only made 4 runs? That is hilarious. In a game where he should have really had a dig and led by example, he disappeared. He's lazy.

Nice comment but could you answer the questions please?

He made 37 tackles but don't know our possession, we had 47% for the game.

He touched the ball 5 times the entire game.

Firstly Avo, thanks for the info, Well 37 tackles is not bad, however......

Apart from pushing Mbye out of DH or a one on one strip of the ball off the
opposition I'm not sure how he could get the ball to increase his hitups.

You think it funny - but he made himself available to get the ball, what else
could he do?

You say don't blame Mbye - he is the man with the ball, who else should we
blame?

Are you suggesting there is a conspiracy to deprive Packer from getting the ball?

 

[Geo]

To go with his 4 runs NRL has Packer down for 4 decoy runs in 55 minutes..so you can double his input in attack..

Eisenhuth had 10..

 

[Tigerbuck63]

Wests Tigers captain Moses Mbye is reportedly free to leave the club as it struggles to break a decade-long finals drought.

The Sydney Morning Herald reported that Wests Tigers would be prepared to pay half Mbye's $800,000 per season salary for the next two years if he was offloaded to a rival team, with the Gold Coast Titans interested.

Mbye is a Queensland State of Origin representative but is a big-money player in a team that looks doomed to again miss the finals. The Herald reported that the Tigers were also trying to offload Josh Reynolds, who is on a similar salary, to a Super League club.

Mbye was made captain by coach Michael Maguire last season but Benji Marshall was made co-captain this year. Maguire has clearly been frustrated by his team's sluggish progress and is looking to refresh the roster.
Wests Tigers co-captain Moses Mbye. (Getty)

Key to the club's thinking over Mbye, according to the Herald, is their hooker situation.

On-loan No.9 Harry Grant would become a free agent if Cameron Smith extends his career at Melbourne; or Brandon Smith may become available if Grant returns to the Storm as their first-choice hooker.

Mbye has been discussed as a hooker or five-eighth by the Titans. Having joined the Tigers in mid-2018, his versatility has been somewhat counter-productive to cementing a permanent, specific role in the team.

Now this is what i call clearing out the deadwood at the Club, i suspect he will try harder this week as now playing for a contract at another club.
Well done MADGE it shows you have the long term interests in place and know who is performing, will now put pressure on other players off contract in 2021.