OFFICIAL Moses Mbye [Discussion]

[TheDaBoss]

So basically we play mbye at 14 anytimr we play at brookie cause that ground is injury haven

 

[jrtiger]

M'Bye at 14 over Simpkin. Jake will get his chance through proving himself in state cup.

 

[barra]

For round one I'd have Mbye @ 6,coming up against one of the best sixes in the comp could be a bridge to far for Madden. Last weeks trial even thou the opposition was ordinary showed WT'S are a better team this year and need to hit the ground winning with some very competitive games happening early its imperative we keep the tradition of good early form and wins going.

Yep, agree and also their big forwards will demand a bigger body/decent defensive 6 for this one. This round is no place for a young lightweight.

 

[Needaname]

For mine, I’d play Talau at 6 and move him to 14 for round 2. Just needs to get some miles up in the middle and some dummy half practice and he becomes our perfect super sub.

 

[JC99]

He's the perfect 14, can cover anywhere in the spine and can play in the centres. Simpkin is good but he's 19, if the team is stronger with Mbye on the bench that's the way to go. Simpkin has plenty of time to continue developing and stake his claim but he can only cover 1 position

“Can Play in the centre’s” is subjective. I saw him struggle in the centre’s last year and we have far better

Honestly could only see him play fullback this year and Laurie has taken that with both hands in a little over a month of being at the club

I want Mbye to work but I don’t see where. Simpkin has the world at his feet and can be destructive at the back end of games I feel

He's held his own at centre plenty of times. Not saying he's some elite centre or a strike weapon but he can certainly fill in there and do his job

 

[Speed2burn]

He's the perfect 14, can cover anywhere in the spine and can play in the centres. Simpkin is good but he's 19, if the team is stronger with Mbye on the bench that's the way to go. Simpkin has plenty of time to continue developing and stake his claim but he can only cover 1 position

“Can Play in the centre’s” is subjective. I saw him struggle in the centre’s last year and we have far better

Honestly could only see him play fullback this year and Laurie has taken that with both hands in a little over a month of being at the club

I want Mbye to work but I don’t see where. Simpkin has the world at his feet and can be destructive at the back end of games I feel

He's held his own at centre plenty of times. Not saying he's some elite centre or a strike weapon but he can certainly fill in there and do his job

Yeah I must have watched different games then. Last year he struggled in the centre’s

 

[avocadoontoast]

He's the perfect 14, can cover anywhere in the spine and can play in the centres. Simpkin is good but he's 19, if the team is stronger with Mbye on the bench that's the way to go. Simpkin has plenty of time to continue developing and stake his claim but he can only cover 1 position

“Can Play in the centre’s” is subjective. I saw him struggle in the centre’s last year and we have far better

Honestly could only see him play fullback this year and Laurie has taken that with both hands in a little over a month of being at the club

I want Mbye to work but I don’t see where. Simpkin has the world at his feet and can be destructive at the back end of games I feel

He's held his own at centre plenty of times. Not saying he's some elite centre or a strike weapon but he can certainly fill in there and do his job

Yeah I must have watched different games then. Last year he struggled in the centre’s

He was very good defensively, certainly much better than BJ.

 

[Speed2burn]

He's the perfect 14, can cover anywhere in the spine and can play in the centres. Simpkin is good but he's 19, if the team is stronger with Mbye on the bench that's the way to go. Simpkin has plenty of time to continue developing and stake his claim but he can only cover 1 position

“Can Play in the centre’s” is subjective. I saw him struggle in the centre’s last year and we have far better

Honestly could only see him play fullback this year and Laurie has taken that with both hands in a little over a month of being at the club

I want Mbye to work but I don’t see where. Simpkin has the world at his feet and can be destructive at the back end of games I feel

He's held his own at centre plenty of times. Not saying he's some elite centre or a strike weapon but he can certainly fill in there and do his job

Yeah I must have watched different games then. Last year he struggled in the centre’s

He was very good defensively, certainly much better than BJ.

Yeah he was ok in that department I guess . Hardly enough to keep opposition coaches up at night though

 

[Tiger5150]

He's the perfect 14, can cover anywhere in the spine and can play in the centres. Simpkin is good but he's 19, if the team is stronger with Mbye on the bench that's the way to go. Simpkin has plenty of time to continue developing and stake his claim but he can only cover 1 position

“Can Play in the centre’s” is subjective. I saw him struggle in the centre’s last year and we have far better

Honestly could only see him play fullback this year and Laurie has taken that with both hands in a little over a month of being at the club

I want Mbye to work but I don’t see where. Simpkin has the world at his feet and can be destructive at the back end of games I feel

He's held his own at centre plenty of times. Not saying he's some elite centre or a strike weapon but he can certainly fill in there and do his job

Yeah I must have watched different games then. Last year he struggled in the centre’s

He was very good defensively, certainly much better than BJ.

Yeah he was ok in that department I guess . Hardly enough to keep opposition coaches up at night though

Who was better than him last year to take that left centre spot? He played 13 of 15 games at left centre and was the best option.

 

[Speed2burn]

He's the perfect 14, can cover anywhere in the spine and can play in the centres. Simpkin is good but he's 19, if the team is stronger with Mbye on the bench that's the way to go. Simpkin has plenty of time to continue developing and stake his claim but he can only cover 1 position

“Can Play in the centre’s” is subjective. I saw him struggle in the centre’s last year and we have far better

Honestly could only see him play fullback this year and Laurie has taken that with both hands in a little over a month of being at the club

I want Mbye to work but I don’t see where. Simpkin has the world at his feet and can be destructive at the back end of games I feel

He's held his own at centre plenty of times. Not saying he's some elite centre or a strike weapon but he can certainly fill in there and do his job

Yeah I must have watched different games then. Last year he struggled in the centre’s

He was very good defensively, certainly much better than BJ.

Yeah he was ok in that department I guess . Hardly enough to keep opposition coaches up at night though


Who was better than him last year to take that left centre spot? He played 13 of 15 games at left centre and was the best option.

Yeah that’s barely an accomplishment given our options....like winning a participation medal


I’m talking about this year, I don’t fit him in anywhere , not even as a bench utility unless injuries hit. I like either the 4 forward power game or a specialist hooker on the bench

 

[balmain boy]

Jack of all trades, master of none. There's just extremely little value in playing him on the bench as a super sub. It's a very negative strategy and i really don't like it at all. Are we planning on having 3-4 HIAs a game? We've offloaded most of our porcelain dolls, and have a much tougher group now.

The game is getting faster and faster and wasting a precious bench spot on the off chance that someone gets injured is a massive waste of time and energy. We need to keep our forward fresh and ask them to do shorter stints for the most part.

He's also not a good hooker. Yes he could do a job there but he would be our 3-4th best option at hooker. So why should he get to jump the queue?

The fact is he will be our super backup. A very handy player to have in a squad, named 18 on a Tuesday and in case someone gets injured in warmups he could slot in and do a job. Or otherwise being captain of the Magpies may be his go.

 

[Tigrrs]

Mbye as a 14 is terrific. It says a lot about the improved team and depth. Anybody who can’t appreciate that is kidding themselves,

 

[AdelaideTiger]

He's the perfect 14, can cover anywhere in the spine and can play in the centres. Simpkin is good but he's 19, if the team is stronger with Mbye on the bench that's the way to go. Simpkin has plenty of time to continue developing and stake his claim but he can only cover 1 position

“Can Play in the centre’s” is subjective. I saw him struggle in the centre’s last year and we have far better

Honestly could only see him play fullback this year and Laurie has taken that with both hands in a little over a month of being at the club

I want Mbye to work but I don’t see where. Simpkin has the world at his feet and can be destructive at the back end of games I feel

He's held his own at centre plenty of times. Not saying he's some elite centre or a strike weapon but he can certainly fill in there and do his job

Yeah I must have watched different games then. Last year he struggled in the centre’s

He was very good defensively, certainly much better than BJ.

Yeah he was ok in that department I guess . Hardly enough to keep opposition coaches up at night though


Who was better than him last year to take that left centre spot? He played 13 of 15 games at left centre and was the best option.

Yeah that’s barely an accomplishment given our options....like winning a participation medal


I’m talking about this year, I don’t fit him in anywhere , not even as a bench utility unless injuries hit. I like either the 4 forward power game or a specialist hooker on the bench

Yep, I feel like more than ever, unless the utility has exceptional game breaking qualities, they have so much less impact on a game than an extra forward or a spare DH. Moses will be 18th man moving forward, Jake Simpkin to take the 14 jersey.

 

[JC99]

Mbye as a 14 is terrific. It says a lot about the improved team and depth. Anybody who can’t appreciate that is kidding themselves,

People let the hate cloud their judgement. How often did we get an injury and have players out of position last year? Happened almost every game. He's also a very good support player with real pace and could easily come into the middle of the field late and play a role.

4 forwards just isn't the way to go with these new rules and most utilities can cover more than one position, the two grand finalists both carried players on the bench who can cover multiple spots.

 

[BirchgroveTigers]

Mbye as a 14 is terrific. It says a lot about the improved team and depth. Anybody who can’t appreciate that is kidding themselves,

People let the hate cloud their judgement. How often did we get an injury and have players out of position last year? Happened almost every game. He's also a very good support player and could easily come into the middle of the field late and play a role.

4 forwards just isn't the way to go with these new rules and most utilities can cover more than one position, the two grand finalists both carried players on the bench who can cover multiple spots.

Agreed. Almost every game since madge has been our coach he has picked two middle forwards, one utility and one backrower who can cover centre. With Joffa able to cover back row if injury hits, Mbye on the bench covers the centre + the whole spine thereby allowing us to run with three middles rather than the usual two (which I think is turning into our strength). Mbye at 14 is massive for us.

 

[JC99]

Mbye as a 14 is terrific. It says a lot about the improved team and depth. Anybody who can’t appreciate that is kidding themselves,

People let the hate cloud their judgement. How often did we get an injury and have players out of position last year? Happened almost every game. He's also a very good support player and could easily come into the middle of the field late and play a role.

4 forwards just isn't the way to go with these new rules and most utilities can cover more than one position, the two grand finalists both carried players on the bench who can cover multiple spots.

Agreed. Almost every game since madge has been our coach he has picked two middle forwards, one utility and one backrower who can cover centre. With Joffa able to cover back row if injury hits, Mbye on the bench covers the centre + the whole spine thereby allowing us to run with three middles rather than the usual two (which I think is turning into our strength). Mbye at 14 is massive for us.

Agree mate. The fact we have second rowers who can play 80 and Twal who is capable of big minutes really helps too. 3 middle forwards and a utility on the bench that has us covered everywhere makes sense to me.

 

[Russell]

For mine, I’d play Talau at 6 and move him to 14 for round 2. Just needs to get some miles up in the middle and some dummy half practice and he becomes our perfect super sub.

And AD plays where Round 2?

 

[Russell]

Mbye as a 14 is terrific. It says a lot about the improved team and depth. Anybody who can’t appreciate that is kidding themselves,

Not a matter of not appreciating that - it's a matter of better options.

 

[Spartan117]

I really like Mbye, he has great utility value.

In truth the best both paryies could hope for is the no 14 ro cover for Hooker and injuries.

We need the other 3x spots for our forward rotations.

So in essence there is som positively here.

Ps. Thx Ivan, you're recruitment was terrible

 

[Guest]

For mine, I’d play Talau at 6 and move him to 14 for round 2. Just needs to get some miles up in the middle and some dummy half practice and he becomes our perfect super sub.

And AD plays where Round 2?

AD will walk straight into the 6 jersey and rightly so. Talau will either end up on the wing or State Cup. There is an argument Talau could be the utility as he can play wing/centre/6 and he's big enough to slot into the backrow at a pinch, but I think Mbye offers more utility value at this stage.