Moses - The next "bad" Benji

I thought Moses has a real dig today…Brooks was poor but as already been pointed out when your forwards get owned the halves are going to struggle,,their kicking for the most part didn't help the forwards out either,,

Simply put as a team we were dominated...
 
@Gazman said:
Just watched Titans (who were favourites for wooden spoon at start of year score a great win over the Bunnies in extra time and won through efforts of a largely unknown half back this year…...
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There attitude was ubelivable. A credit to their coach. Unlike us :bash
 
Benji won a preimiership…

Moses will be lucky to see a semi final if he doesn't step his game up, both defensively and offensively.
 
@Geo. said:
I thought Moses has a real dig today…Brooks was poor but as already been pointed out when your forwards get owned the halves are going to struggle,,their kicking for the most part didn't help the forwards out either,,

Simply put as a team we were dominated...
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I agree….thought Brooks was worse. Not many were real good though, bar the odd glimpse here and there...we were simply outplayed....the team dont have to be off by much to get done in this comp, Im sure weve all heard this from the experts in the media.
This board loves playing the blame game...we single players out for criticism after a loss, we single them out for praise after a win
 
Frankly,until either of them make a little more effort in defence than the pathetic arm grabs today,Id be unfussed if we lost both of them end 2017.
And whilst they continue to play together,whatever team they play for (regardless of coach)will be permanently anchored to the bottom of the table.They are both simply a dead weight without the ball in their hands,and put way too much pressure on other players.
One has to go end 2017..and I hope they both watch Ash Taylors game for GC today..he has already become what weve been waiting for some time from these two.
 
@clontarfkid said:
Frankly,until either of them make a little more effort in defence than the pathetic arm grabs today,Id be unfussed if we lost both of them end 2017.
And whilst they continue to play together,whatever team they play for (regardless of coach)will be permanently anchored to the bottom of the table.They are both simply a dead weight without the ball in their hands,and put way too much pressure on other players.
One has to go end 2017..and I hope they both watch Ash Taylors game for GC today..he has already become what weve been waiting for some time from these two.
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I really thought to myself today after seeing yet another of Brooks turnstyle impersonations, his team mates should really get up him about it….both him and Moses
These guys get sympathy when they make a mistake, the get a pat on the head, a ''dont worry bout it''
They really should both be torn a new one, embarrased by their peers into putting the bodies on the line and their shoulders into a tackle
Its not thet they cant do it...ive seen them, they just choose not to sometimes
 
The one thing I do like about Moses is that he doesn't go missing as such. He is always involved, but it's just whether it's rocks or diamonds.

The age old adage sticks though, when you get rolled up front your halves will always struggle to prosper. Woods got put on his back more often than not, and the others got slowed down as well. One out running might be a low risk option coming out of your own half but we really lacked punch at the line. It seems like every other team in the comp is capable of having a pig steam on to it from 10 metres out and land over the stripe, we just cannot do it (regularly that is.)
 
People say Moses is more aggressive and more involved. No doubt he has more confidence.

However how often does he actually threaten the advantage line??

His running game is non existent in my opinion and not good enough.

Brooks does pose a threat to run. Just lacks any real confidence or swagger.
 
@Eddie said:
People say Moses is more aggressive and more involved. No doubt he has more confidence.

However how often does he actually threaten the advantage line??

His running game is non existent in my opinion and not good enough.

Brooks does pose a threat to run. Just lacks any real confidence or swagger.
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I agree with you Eddie. Just noting that I respect a player that keeps trying even when it's not working out for them though, rather than just disappearing from the game. Brooks actually goes missing for substantial periods during games.
 
I agree with that. However, consider

Brooks had an excellent game against Souths without Moses.

Does he shrink when Moses is out there yaking away?? I think so.

Not blaming Moses for this really, its Lukes fault.
 
As many have said before, there are probably at least three reasons why our halves are struggling;
1\. It's diificult for two, young inexperienced halves to learn and succeed together in first grade.
2\. Its nearly impossible for any halves combination to shine when their forwards are going backwards.
3\. Young halves need mentoring and wise coaching and it's questionable whether they've had either.
Put it all together though and they are both underachieving….
 
Brooks was worse and was the one that reminded me of Benji, plays for himself with selfish kicks, doesn't back up, is a poor organiser and doesn't play to his skill set….....he thinks he's better than he actually is.
 
@Boonboon2 said:
The halves didn't loose us the game the forwards did.

Hargraves - 252 m
Napa - 186m
Moa - 153m
Guerra - 184m

Woods - 132m
Ava - 86m
Sue - 89m
Aloia - 21m
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Agreed,but no excuse for the disgraceful kicking AGAIN, having no awareness of the tackle count.
 
@Tigerdave said:
Brooks was worse and was the one that reminded me of Benji, plays for himself with selfish kicks, doesn't back up, is a poor organiser and doesn't play to his skill set….....he thinks he's better than he actually is.
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Put Moses to 7 and put Rankin to 6,you will see a better game from Moses with Rankin organising…It would be a great experiment that won't happen,but let's run with the 2 kids still learning at this level...Brooks has been put on a pedestal for far to long,how he is going to be superstar,its now time for him to man up or ship out I reckon...I'm starting to get sick of looking for excuses for both of them...
 
@TrueTiger said:
@Tigerdave said:
Brooks was worse and was the one that reminded me of Benji, plays for himself with selfish kicks, doesn't back up, is a poor organiser and doesn't play to his skill set….....he thinks he's better than he actually is.

Put Moses to 7 and put Rankin to 6,you will see a better game from Moses with Rankin organising…It would be a great experiment that won't happen,but let's run with the 2 kids still learning at this level...Brooks has been put on a pedestal for far to long,how he is going to be superstar,its now time for him to man up or ship out I reckon...I'm starting to get sick of looking for excuses for both of them...
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yeah that would be interesting to see how we'd go with that combo, but you're right, it won't happen
 
Like I said last week, Brooks is still sitting back waiting for his forwards to dominate while Moses at least tries to make something happen, yes he pushes the limits maybe too much but you can't crucify the kid for having a crack. Brooks on the other hand just doesn't take the defence on at all. Have a go Brooks
 
Actually it would have been hilarious if the Roosters had bought this pair.
How stupid would they look ?
Why the hell would they want either , when they have Hastings, a much better player than either of ours
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Would be interesting to see how they would go at a very strong club. It is easy to lay blame at the forwards or who ever for their poor form, but they are still playing the same low percentage plays week in and week out. Not once have I seen either of them take control and lead the team around the paddock by playing the percentages. Everything they do is off the cuff.

The trouble we have to stick with them because we have them for at least another year and we are paying them massive overs
 
@Eddie said:
Our forwards got rolled.

They got bullied.

My point Re Moses was his style of play over the course of the year.

He is becoming a hail mary player in my opinion.

People will praise him cause he did 3 or 4 great things. But what about the 5 or 6 bad things that hurt the team.

It doesnt work in the NRL.
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why do you think his style has changed over the course of year? i remember when he made his debut, he would run the ball, take the hits, pass at the line etc. he was the exact opposite of benji tbh.

now, he's used to getting the ball when he has no space to work with, he's getting smashed every time he has the ball, no matter the field position. the forwards are not protecting him when he kicks. so what is he going to do? even if it's thurston himself, he's gonna simply put up a bomb or pass early at the line because he doesn't wanna get smashed.

tbh, you couldn't be more wrong with the benji comparison.
 
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