Tucker
Well-known member
I agree.Chopping & changing coaches is how we ended up here in the first place.
This is Benji's second year. If we cop another spoon, he'd want to play finals next year to keep his job for mine.
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I agree.Chopping & changing coaches is how we ended up here in the first place.
I'm not sure if there is a game plan, but if there is they seem to forget that as well.Next time we win, the sheets will come out again.
Theres no way any of them remember the words.
And the most annoying thing is it should not take over 20 years for our team to become a force again. Benji will do everything he possibly can to make our dream become a reality, because he has the same dream.I liken this team to the Broncos of a couple of years ago. Had a stack of talent in the side but ended up finishing last. It wasn't until they added guys like Reynolds, Capewell & Walsh where they really started to see results & actually turned in to a winning side. Not saying we have that level of talent but ultimately these sorts of things don't happen overnight & we are 5 months into a rebuild that needs at least 3 years before we can see results. One thing is clear that the players are buying into what Benji's doing which is the most important thing.
I think you are right, but the foundation was laid incorrectly and will need to come up!We arent 5 months into a rebuild. We started the rebuild at the end of 2022.
Ink, regarding the part of your post that I highlighted . . . . I was speaking with Trevor Cogger's family the other day, and talk drifted around to Jack . . . . crux of it is that Newy didn't once ask him how Penrith did things; tips, techniques, drills . . . nothing. I found that interesting, and you've raised it too . . . .Every player we have recruited imo has gone backwards when he comes here
I've heard it occasionally in the media,. Sometimes it's a vindictive nature (Anasta, Akoula going to Penrith, Leilua,. Wade. Mackinnin, Woods.... But also guys like Tuquiri have mentioned how things aren't quite as good here compared to where he went moving on.
Coaching staff should try an anonymous feedback session with the players asking why they think things aren't as good here as where they were previously... All the coaches as well could but in too.... Farah/south's, Morris knights sharks.... Heighno sharks... Benji Souths.
So things very very different to all these other clubs... We have a lot of ex Panthers a club extremely succesful.
Is it the actual training, the methods used/ game plans etc... Is it admin and management?
Is it the atmosphere and culture... Things would've been. Very different from Madge era to Benjis... It could be a bit or a lot of all... Many more aspects to query about.
I know some of the players don't have a lot between the ears... Could be too much for them.
Yiu never know might find some sort of common denominator??
But if the injuries set in and the blow outs happen as expected then our season, defensively, will mirror last year. So where is the improvement?And I expect that when the injuries set in and some of our depth has to step up. I’m not judging this regime till next year personally.
Youre talking in hypotheticalsBut if the injuries set in and the blow outs happen as expected then our season, defensively, will mirror last year. So where is the improvement?
Not really. I'm saying our defence through the first 2 months this season pre injuries setting in is comparative to our defence in the first 2 months of last season before the injuries had set in.Youre talking in hypotheticals
He is arguing the improvement is overstated and is correct.Youre talking in hypotheticals
On evidence so far this year, our defence has improved. I concede we are one third through the season and we need to keep getting better. Our attack on the other hand stinks.Not really. I'm saying our defence through the first 2 months this season pre injuries setting in is comparative to our defence in the first 2 months of last season before the injuries had set in.
So I don't see where our improved defence is this year. Sure it is better than what was served up by a team littered with reserve graders at the back end of last year when there were injuries, but is that the benchmark for improvement or should we compare like with like
It’s interesting across the comp. We haven’t been absolutely wiped like a lot of other teams have. To have 30 points put on you used to be a flogging but with the new rules I don’t think it is.He is arguing the improvement is overstated and is correct.
Ive seen an improvement in attitude with the team going 80 far more often than normal but our negative play is just as bad as ever and we are still letting in a lot of points each week whilst struggling to score many ourselves.
That’s crazy. That would be the first question I’d ask. Even if a player was coming across from a weaker side, so you would avoid what they were doing…Ink, regarding the part of your post that I highlighted . . . . I was speaking with Trevor Cogger's family the other day, and talk drifted around to Jack . . . . crux of it is that Newy didn't once ask him how Penrith did things; tips, techniques, drills . . . nothing. I found that interesting, and you've raised it too . . . .
That's the one. The better teams hang in there when things go against them. Until we get that, we're just pretending.Instill some grit into the team.
I posted this on May 8 this year and my hope of a minimum of 8 wins is looking doubtful. Tonights 2nd-half capitulation is so disappointing with HOPE seemingly on Long Service Leave (and I mean long). What a sad few years for the Joint-venture supporters.Given that Wests Tigers had achieved only 4 wins in both 2022 &2023 (whilst winning the Wooden Spoons) I believed that BENJI needed to win a minimum of 8 games to keep the Wolves at bay. I based these expectations on a few minor additions to the top 30 roster and that he would have John Morris to support him as Assistant Coach. Another 6 wins in 2024 is required to meet my high hopes and I am concerned that we face a trifecta of Spoons. The depth in the playing roster is lacking with our Wests Magpies NSW Cup side near the bottom. Do other forum members believe we can win at least a further 6 games? I do think the article in the Daily Telegraph from Bulldog Ritchie is accurate.