Nathan Brown

@Tiger-Tragic said in [Nathan Brown](/post/1054531) said:
I grew up in the Hunter and my immediate family are still there and many are Knights fans and some are members. They tell me of a falling out between Pearce and Lino soon after he joined the club. I specifically watch the body language between them and it seems frosty, at best ....not that that is any proof of the rumour.

Pearce seems to be the "elephant in the room" to me.

Yes Gardiner and Pezet and Brown and others have handled things poorly, but a genuine player leader could have quarantined the playing group from all that and kept the focus on the footy and the results. Pearce hasn't done that at all and, as such, makes me think he is an active part of the de-stabilising of Brown's coaching and tenure at the club.

Pearce is troublesome and a negative influence (eventually) on any club he gets involved with.



I know for a fact that when the Kinghts lost all thoses games in a row at the beginning of the year Brownie blamed Pearce as the underlying factor and alot of the senior players parted alot in the off season
 
@Telltails Maguire won a comp and got sacked. The issue is club boards bending over for greedy and selfish players when they should be supporting the coach who was appointed by them
 
@CarltonDry said in [Nathan Brown](/post/1054808) said:
@Telltails Maguire won a comp and got sacked. The issue is club boards bending over for greedy and selfish players when they should be supporting the coach who was appointed by them

Maguire was sacked in 2017 for not being able to sustain results after the 2014 GF, just like Hasler at the Bulldogs. They have a short window of time to get/ and or maintain results, and some clubs are less patient than others.
 
Always thought Brown was making a bit of a rod for his own back. Every time I have ever heard him interviewed about their squad and developing the team he has spoken pretty much only of bringing in players from well performing teams and having them show the younger players how to train, how to prepare, how to act etc. Then you look at some of the characters they signed. To me he was fostering an environment where the senior players ruled the roost.
 
@Telltails Actually the players were behind his sacking, the club spoke to the senior playing group and on the back of that he was sacked. I was told during preseason he made them train for 21 straight and it didn’t go down well.
 
Cleary will be next if Penrith flop next season, both Cleary and Brown are "rebuilding" coaches meaning they have no expectation on them to perform and they're fine with that but as soon as they get a squad with ability and they are expected to be contenders and the pressure to get results is there they can't get their team to perform to it's potential.

There's been a number of these types of coaches over the years
 
@TIGER said in [Nathan Brown](/post/1055092) said:
Cleary will be next if Penrith flop next season, both Cleary and Brown are "rebuilding" coaches meaning they have no expectation on them to perform and they're fine with that but as soon as they get a squad with ability and they are expected to be contenders and the pressure to get results is there they can't get their team to perform to it's potential.

There's been a number of these types of coaches over the years

And he'll get a nice big pay out.
 
@TIGER said in [Nathan Brown](/post/1055092) said:
Cleary will be next if Penrith flop next season, both Cleary and Brown are "rebuilding" coaches meaning they have no expectation on them to perform and they're fine with that but as soon as they get a squad with ability and they are expected to be contenders and the pressure to get results is there they can't get their team to perform to it's potential.

There's been a number of these types of coaches over the years

Cleary was stolen by the panthers to win a premiership and keep his sprog at the club not rebuild the club.They were supposedly in the middle of a "premiership window"
 
@jadtiger said in [Nathan Brown](/post/1055098) said:
@TIGER said in [Nathan Brown](/post/1055092) said:
Cleary will be next if Penrith flop next season, both Cleary and Brown are "rebuilding" coaches meaning they have no expectation on them to perform and they're fine with that but as soon as they get a squad with ability and they are expected to be contenders and the pressure to get results is there they can't get their team to perform to it's potential.

There's been a number of these types of coaches over the years

Cleary was stolen by the panthers to win a premiership and keep his sprog at the club not rebuild the club.They were supposedly in the middle of a "premiership window"


That window is closing fast, and I take great pleasure in watching
 
@TIGER said in [Nathan Brown](/post/1055092) said:
Cleary will be next if Penrith flop next season

He's on a five year deal. If they punt him at the end of next season, they will have to pay pay out his last three years ($3m?). Bizarre decision to give him 5 years.
 
@fibrodreaming said in [Nathan Brown](/post/1055188) said:
@TIGER said in [Nathan Brown](/post/1055092) said:
Cleary will be next if Penrith flop next season

He's on a five year deal. If they punt him at the end of next season, they will have to pay pay out his last three years ($3m?). Bizarre decision to give him 5 years.

serves them right, but it is how the panthers do things....

followed the tigers blueprint for getting rid of coaches...
 
@OzLuke As bad as we are in Coaching management.
We are nothing compaired to Newcastle, Brisbane and Penrith this year.

My,.... Knights sign all their cattle and get a top 4 team with bottom 4 results.
Penrith sign back Cleary for incredible coin... As gus said, you could have gone for Bennett.
 
@fibrodreaming said in [Nathan Brown](/post/1055188) said:
@TIGER said in [Nathan Brown](/post/1055092) said:
Cleary will be next if Penrith flop next season

He's on a five year deal. If they punt him at the end of next season, they will have to pay pay out his last three years ($3m?). Bizarre decision to give him 5 years.

That's because it's a handy way to backhand payments to his son.
 
G'day @TigerTiger: I have a feeling the Panthers couldn't allow that to happen ie a coach being sacked after winning the G.F.

I agree with you, they may well have had at least a good chance of winning...then how stupid would they look sacking a GF winning coach.

As you said the move was political, so they had to get rid of him before the Finals.
 
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