New Tigers coach Mick Potter Wants To Meet Tim Sheens

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NEW Wests Tigers coach Mick Potter made it clear yesterday he was very much his own man, but at some point in the coming days or weeks he plans to sit down with his predecessor Tim Sheens to discuss the playing squad he will have at his disposal next season.

Potter, whose appointment on a two-year contract was confirmed at a press conference yesterday afternoon, also put his under-performing players on notice when he described himself as a disciplinarian - and said he expected those under him to fall in to line.

Sheens was sacked as head coach in late September following a decade in the role - he is yet to announce whether he will stay with the club and perform a role in development - but Potter acknowledged he would like to speak to the game's longest serving coach.

"I haven't spoken to Tim, but he is a fantastic coach and his longevity in the game just shows what a great coach he has been," Potter said.

"I think I will speak to him in the next couple of weeks."

Chief executive Steve Humphreys added: "As I have said in relation to Tim, we remain keen for Tim to play a role, particularly overseeing our development activities and some plans we have for southwest Sydney.

"We have spoken to Tim about that and that will run its course. As I say, it really is up to Tim now to have a think about that and come back to us. I would hope and expect that Tim and Mick would have some dialogue about the team. We would be foolish not to try to tap Tim's experience here in that regard.

"At the same time, I know Tim would want to give Mick all the space he needs to get on with his job."

Sheens remains on holidays and is expected to resolve his future in the coming weeks.

The club has offered him a role which would involve setting up and overseeing an academy in southwest Sydney but the feeling is that Sheens, the current national coach, would rather pursue opportunities elsewhere.
Not surprisingly, both Humphreys and Potter want Farah to stay.

"Clearly, Robbie is a high priority for us. He is our captain and most influential player so Robbie is aware of our desire to lock in an extension to his current contract, which has a further 12 months to run," Humphreys said.

"But I can't give you a timetable on that. Clearly that is an important contract for Robbie in the context of his career.

"He knows what we want to do and that will get managed in due course."

The other big name at the Tigers is Benji Marshall, a player who infuriated the club's fans at times last season. Marshall remains one of the game's marquee names and Potter said he had no plans to stifle the New Zealand captain.

"You don't want to stifle a player like Benji," he said.

"You look at the things he does - he creates space for other people and himself. He's very good at it. I don't want to stifle that and that's his style.

"I'll make some subtle changes, not to his game but to complement other people. It's a team game.

"To get the best out of everyone there might be some subtle changes there.

"He's a good player. He's got the highest try assists in the competition. You don't want to stifle that."

Asked specifically about the influence Marshall and Farah wield at the Tigers, Potter said: "I don't want to keep looking backwards.

The Tigers have other issues to deal with as well, notably the future of hooker Robbie Farah, who is off contract at the end of next season and already in the sights of Parramatta coach Ricky Stuart.
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"They are influential players, and I want them to keep having influence.

"Ultimately, I'm the head coach and it's a case of being about the team."

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/nrl/new-tigers-coach-mick-potter-is-clear-hes-his-own-man-but-he-wants-to-meet-tim-sheens/story-fnca0von-1226502675131
 
If Tim had any good advice or any helpful tips to give Potter, then he wouldnt have lost his job.
 
@Chris said:
If Tim had any good advice or any helpful tips to give Potter, then he wouldnt have lost his job.

I see it more as the right thing to say and the right thing to do. Potter is smart enough to know that he might end up having Sheens on his team in some small capacity.
 
I thought the mention of having Sheens set up a development academy in south-west Sydney is promising. Sheens has worked well in nurturing top young talent over the years. Whether he wishes to do so now remains to be seen. The south-west certainly could use such an academy and really help strengthen the ranks of the Wests junior Rugby League, and subsequently the Wests Tigers which is clearly the aim behind the academy.
 
@willow said:
I thought the mention of having Sheens set up a development academy in south-west Sydney is promising. Sheens has worked well in nurturing top young talent over the years. Whether he wishes to do so now remains to be seen. The south-west certainly could use such an academy and really help strengthen the ranks of the Wests junior Rugby League, and subsequently the Wests Tigers which is clearly the aim behind the academy.

I totally agree on this.
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Sheens is a stubborn old fossil. Just get him out of the joint. He might be good at that role but his ego won't allow for it. Just like the Cowboys it will end on bad terms. The quicker he is out the better.
 
@Eddie said:
Sheens is a stubborn old fossil. Just get him out of the joint. He might be good at that role but his ego won't allow for it. Just like the Cowboys it will end on bad terms. The quicker he is out the better.

Not my impression of Tim at all, he is not stubborn, he is not arrogant.

Picking different players in a different position to what you think does not make him the devil
 
The King is dead, long live the King.

You can't keep the old boss around even if he is indirectly involved with the team.

It's a bit like getting a divorce and letting your ex-wife/husband live in the spare room - doesn't work!
 
@helmesy said:
The King is dead, long live the King.

You can't keep the old boss around even if he is indirectly involved with the team.

It's a bit like getting a divorce and letting your ex-wife/husband live in the spare room - doesn't work!

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@Goose said:
@Chris said:
If Tim had any good advice or any helpful tips to give Potter, then he wouldnt have lost his job.

Tim would have plenty to offer.

x2 he has a great understanding of the players. Just don't take his advice on positions that each layer should be in.
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Mick just need to find out what not to do.
Sheens knows all about this.

Im suss about having Sheens hangin around…. Simmons is back....how ''new'' is it all really?
 
thanks very much tigersrule4life for pasting the article.

is it just me or was that an all over the place article?!!

seeing sheens at the nyc gf made me think he is not gone from the tiges. personally, i think that if the tigers are still paying him for next year he may feel obliged or duty bound to help out as he can. i dont see him as being the sort to still try to be the coach and i would greatly respect him if he were to stay on and really help. i like tim sheens, and have stuck up for him on many an occasion… until last season when he reverted to what i call "the john morris days" of same players, different positions, which drove me (awesome to be able to write that in past tense!) crazy and i had had enough like everyone else.

there should be no doubting his experience and knowledge, but not knowing the circumstances surrounding his sacking, im not sure he will or even should help....
 
@willow said:
I thought the mention of having Sheens set up a development academy in south-west Sydney is promising. Sheens has worked well in nurturing top young talent over the years. Whether he wishes to do so now remains to be seen. The south-west certainly could use such an academy and really help strengthen the ranks of the Wests junior Rugby League, and subsequently the Wests Tigers which is clearly the aim behind the academy.

My concern with this Willow would be if/when Sheens is offerred a role as a head coach again at another club

It will happen in my opinion in the next 2 years

We risk losing some of that talent if he decided to take them with him

Make Sheens a stats person or something along those lines ,keep him away from the players altogether
 
@happy tiger said:
@willow said:
I thought the mention of having Sheens set up a development academy in south-west Sydney is promising. Sheens has worked well in nurturing top young talent over the years. Whether he wishes to do so now remains to be seen. The south-west certainly could use such an academy and really help strengthen the ranks of the Wests junior Rugby League, and subsequently the Wests Tigers which is clearly the aim behind the academy.

My concern with this Willow would be if/when Sheens is offerred a role as a head coach again at another club

It will happen in my opinion in the next 2 years

We risk losing some of that talent if he decided to take them with him

Make Sheens a stats person or something along those lines ,keep him away from the players altogether

It's not as easy as simply making Sheens a stats person Happy. You reckon he'd go for that job if that's what they put on the table? No way, he'll take the club to court and get his payout. The club is at least trying to offer him a position where he'll feel useful. Whether Sheens feels the same I don't know, but it's clear they don't want to separate on really poor terms (in comparison to Sheens no longer coaching the side).
 
@willow said:
@happy tiger said:
@willow said:
I thought the mention of having Sheens set up a development academy in south-west Sydney is promising. Sheens has worked well in nurturing top young talent over the years. Whether he wishes to do so now remains to be seen. The south-west certainly could use such an academy and really help strengthen the ranks of the Wests junior Rugby League, and subsequently the Wests Tigers which is clearly the aim behind the academy.

My concern with this Willow would be if/when Sheens is offerred a role as a head coach again at another club

It will happen in my opinion in the next 2 years

We risk losing some of that talent if he decided to take them with him

Make Sheens a stats person or something along those lines ,keep him away from the players altogether

It's not as easy as simply making Sheens a stats person Happy. You reckon he'd go for that job if that's what they put on the table? No way, he'll take the club to court and get his payout. The club is at least trying to offer him a position where he'll feel useful. Whether Sheens feels the same I don't know, but it's clear they don't want to separate on really poor terms (in comparison to Sheens no longer coaching the side).

He can still take the club to court if he doesn't accept this role Willow and having him anywhere near our juniors or the playing squad is a huge risk

People seem to forget there are Sheens supporters in the side and if he is anywhere near the squad and the season starts to go badly the club could literally implode

The next two seasons could be two of the most important in our history and if we don't get it right we could have years of problems
 

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