Now I know...

[TIGERS]

I fully understand now why some other clubs decide to sack their Coaches mid season, or even very early in the season. They sack the coach put then the players get out on the field a few days later, the fans show up to games and there is evidence that life goes on… It worked for the Bulldogs when they got rid of Kevin Moore and gave Jim Dymock a go. It worked for the bunnies when they told John Lang that 2011 season would be his last. Even though Ivan Cleary signed for the Panthers in 2011there was very little fuss at the Warriors and they made the Grand Final. Manly sorted the situation wtih Des Hasler a mere week after they had won the Grand Final.

Compare that with how we are doing and you can see what kind of novice operation is going on in the Boardroom... errgh. You've got every rabid wannabe Rugby League jurno and Blogger clammering for the gossip, because apart from the Grand Final, there is not that much stuff going on to fill the Sports pages with atm. The Daily Telegraph must be LOVING this... And we've got Benji supporting Sheens is the Herald on a Sunday and then on the verge of tears on the footy show a few days later. Lance Thompson, Warren Ryan, Benny Elias, Matty Johns, Mark Geyer all of them having their say... all this talk of failure, upheaval and strife is becoming a self fulfilling prophercy. Throw in in the fact that the Magpies are pretty much History and the weird situation with what Balmain contributes to the Joint Venture and we have ourselves a pretty hairy situation.

Right or wrong this whole thing has been blown from the start. I realise now that this whole situation has been whipped up into a frenzy and I feel like any decision that is now made will be out of Fear, Pressure from the Fans, Pressure from people behind the scenes and from a fallout with the players,

how did it come to this so quickly.

 

[Yossarian]

A heck of a lot of this is press exageration fostered by the willingness of our players to use the media to express their opinions. By the end of the month we should have a new coach, some greater certainty on who will be with us in 2013 and hopefully a squad that understands that their job is to play football.

 

[TIGERS]

A heck of a lot of this is press exageration fostered by the willingness of our players to use the media to express their opinions. By the end of the month we should have a new coach, some greater certainty on who will be with us in 2013 and hopefully a squad that understands that their job is to play football.

To me that sounds to simple to be true. We're going to have a new coach come in just as everyone is buggering off on Holiday. Have we even decided who is going replace Sheens or is that going to be another debacle altogether. What kind of good player is going to want to come to the club with all this instability… and the bad reputation we have now with negoatiating contracts... Can you imagine what our Players agents are saying to them at the moment?.. esp with all this new money coming into the game? Penrith are waiting in the wings with all the players they have let go this season, and so is Parramatta without Hindmarsh and Burt.

Its clear that as a club we are shooting from the hip in terms of a long term strategy, we are making it up and changing the story as we go along.

 

[Snodgrass]

In pollie speak, Tim Sheens has alienated too many factions.
Large slabs of the media have been waiting many years for tonight … Think Hadley, Rothfield etc
The staunch Wests followers have been after him after he plumped for a single reserve grade side ... Which ended up being Balmain Ryde Eastwood.
When this season fizzled Sheens made the tough decision to readdress the roster ... This upset the playing group in much the same way forced retrenchments upset the rank and file ....
Also, if one is to believe the whispers, Robbie Farah has had a strained relationship with the Coach following the Tri Nations business a few years back

Add all these together and you have reasons that prove more powerful than a disappointing season.

 

[Goose]

In pollie speak, Tim Sheens has alienated too many factions.
Large slabs of the media have been waiting many years for tonight … Think Hadley, Rothfield etc
The staunch Wests followers have been after him after he plumped for a single reserve grade side ... Which ended up being Balmain Ryde Eastwood.
When this season fizzled Sheens made the tough decision to readdress the roster ... This upset the playing group in much the same way forced retrenchments upset the rank and file ....
Also, if one is to believe the whispers, Robbie Farah has had a strained relationship with the Coach following the Tri Nations business a few years back

Add all these together and you have reasons that prove more powerful than a disappointing season.

I think you are spot on.

 

[Yossarian]

A heck of a lot of this is press exageration fostered by the willingness of our players to use the media to express their opinions. By the end of the month we should have a new coach, some greater certainty on who will be with us in 2013 and hopefully a squad that understands that their job is to play football.

To me that sounds to simple to be true. We're going to have a new coach come in just as everyone is buggering off on Holiday. Have we even decided who is going replace Sheens or is that going to be another debacle altogether. What kind of good player is going to want to come to the club with all this instability… and the bad reputation we have now with negoatiating contracts... Can you imagine what our Players agents are saying to them at the moment?.. esp with all this new money coming into the game? Penrith are waiting in the wings with all the players they have let go this season, and so is Parramatta without Hindmarsh and Burt.

Its clear that as a club we are shooting from the hip in terms of a long term strategy, we are making it up and changing the story as we go along.

I'm not sure it is clear. I don't think we really know what the long-term strategy of the club is. The silence at their end is being filled by player's sounding off in the press and journos making their own conclusions.

We'll have little to no troubles recruiting players. Things were a hell of a lot worse in 2002.

 

[innsaneink]

Ellis Lote and blair were the only players of note wever recruited in the last four years, the rest have been fringe first graders, twilighters or juniors

Sheens publicly started to lose it after the Parra game last year, after Doust spilt the beans….he lost it big time in the presser, Robbie had to save him....swearing at journos....starting to have a crack at supporters criticising him, but him being in denial saying we were criticising his players the ''so called fans'' incidents.

The sooner hes gone the better.....he destroyed NQ...hes done the same here....massive ego's have a way of getting in the road of clarity and reality

 

[TIGERS]

A heck of a lot of this is press exageration fostered by the willingness of our players to use the media to express their opinions. By the end of the month we should have a new coach, some greater certainty on who will be with us in 2013 and hopefully a squad that understands that their job is to play football.

To me that sounds to simple to be true. We're going to have a new coach come in just as everyone is buggering off on Holiday. Have we even decided who is going replace Sheens or is that going to be another debacle altogether. What kind of good player is going to want to come to the club with all this instability… and the bad reputation we have now with negoatiating contracts... Can you imagine what our Players agents are saying to them at the moment?.. esp with all this new money coming into the game? Penrith are waiting in the wings with all the players they have let go this season, and so is Parramatta without Hindmarsh and Burt.

Its clear that as a club we are shooting from the hip in terms of a long term strategy, we are making it up and changing the story as we go along.

I'm not sure it is clear. I don't think we really know what the long-term strategy of the club is. The silence at their end is being filled by player's sounding off in the press and journos making their own conclusions.

We'll have little to no troubles recruiting players. Things were a hell of a lot worse in 2002.

A smaller club like Wests Tigers… along with Balmain and Wests before the merger, have only really ever found success while under the Guidance of an experienced coach, a good supportive sponsor and a few good players that are usually brought through the youth ranks. Anyone who knows the history of both of our clubs knows that this is how its always been and times like these are when it all starts to fall apart again.

 

[TIGERS]

…..he destroyed NQ...hes done the same here....massive ego's have a way of getting in the road of clarity and reality

Yeah, grading players like Nathan Fien, Aaron Payne, Josh Hannay, Michael Luck, Matty Bowen, Ty Williams… Completely destroyed NQ. Not like any of those guys went on to have long and successful careers...lol. Forgot to mention Scott Prince but thats another story I guess. Utterly completly destroyed it. His ego was so massive while up there I think Dairy Farmers Stadium and most of Townsville ended up sinking into the Coral Sea and was never spoken of again.

Destroyed the Tigers too. Took over a really popular, wealthy, well equipped, well trained, well diciplined, big spending club in 2003, went completely insane and spent 10 years plotting its strange and unusual demise. Won a premiership by mistake in 2005.

(see also: canberra late 80s early 90s)

 

[innsaneink]

Open your other eye…then pull ur head outta the sand

 

[Snodgrass]

…..he destroyed NQ...hes done the same here....massive ego's have a way of getting in the road of clarity and reality

Yeah, grading players like Nathan Fien, Aaron Payne, Josh Hannay, Michael Luck, Matty Bowen, Ty Williams… Completely destroyed NQ. Not like any of those guys went on to have long and successful careers...lol. Forgot to mention Scott Prince but thats another story I guess. Utterly completly destroyed it. His ego was so massive while up there I think Dairy Farmers Stadium and most of Townsville ended up sinking into the Coral Sea and was never spoken of again.

Destroyed the Tigers too. Took over a really popular, wealthy, well equipped, well trained, well diciplined, big spending club in 2003, went completely insane and spent 10 years plotting its strange and unusual demise. Won a premiership by mistake in 2005.

(see also: canberra late 80s early 90s)

That's a top notch post.
Always love lashings of sarcasm too …
Think he's ground your rib cage down to mince meat there Ink. But look on the bright side, he never touched yer face once ... Doubled up but still pretty.

 

[tigermaniac]

…..he destroyed NQ...hes done the same here....massive ego's have a way of getting in the road of clarity and reality

Yeah, grading players like Nathan Fien, Aaron Payne, Josh Hannay, Michael Luck, Matty Bowen, Ty Williams… Completely destroyed NQ. Not like any of those guys went on to have long and successful careers...lol. Forgot to mention Scott Prince but thats another story I guess. Utterly completly destroyed it. His ego was so massive while up there I think Dairy Farmers Stadium and most of Townsville ended up sinking into the Coral Sea and was never spoken of again.

Destroyed the Tigers too. Took over a really popular, wealthy, well equipped, well trained, well diciplined, big spending club in 2003, went completely insane and spent 10 years plotting its strange and unusual demise. Won a premiership by mistake in 2005.

(see also: canberra late 80s early 90s)

That's a top notch post.
Always love lashings of sarcasm too …
Think he's ground your rib cage down to mince meat there Ink. But look on the bright side, he never touched yer face once ... Doubled up but still pretty.

They boomed after he left. Have you really forgotten what happened during his time there or we're you to young to remember. You love Sheens you can have him.
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[alexaki]

A heck of a lot of this is press exageration fostered by the willingness of our players to use the media to express their opinions. By the end of the month we should have a new coach, some greater certainty on who will be with us in 2013 and hopefully a squad that understands that their job is to play football.

Agree…I hope whoever is the new coach, the first thing he does is Gang the players from their media and social media extra curricular

 

[Snodgrass]

I hope whoever is the new coach, the first thing he does is Gang the players from their media and social media extra curricular

Yeah, that'll help attract sponsors…but I know what you mean.

 

[hybrid_tiger]

Maybe if our players SHUT UP and don't go running to the media crying and just let the club do their business, that would be a good start.
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[Snodgrass]

They boomed after he left. Have you really forgotten what happened during his time there or we're you to young to remember. You love Sheens you can have him.
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Maniac, I'm so old I'll be cheering against the Berries on Sunday having never forgiven them the mean spirited bastardry of the Luibinskas Affair circa 1975.
Look it up kiddies. Shame Belmore Shame.

As for Sheens, yes that's the point, I do want to keep him.
Ta.

That being said, sadly, it ain't my call.

 

[mikey]

Open your other eye…then pull ur head outta the sand

At least he has one to open and uses it. Sheens has done a lot more good than bad at this club.

 

[innsaneink]

I didnt say he hadnt….but are we reminiscing 9 as per usual) or are we talking NOW?

Just look at the footy we played this year.

I await the usual, ''but we had injuries'' excuses

Look at the footy on the field, look at the footy on field at his end at NQ (conceding 30 points per game)

Hes finished - good riddance

 

[cqtiger]

So long as our next coach is NOT Matt Parish. He coached the CQ Comets up here a few years ago and did absolutely nothing. I also heard that he is a bit of a "looney", yelling and screaming tantrums, throwing stuff etc. Some people may describe this as "passion" but I don't want a coach like that at all.

 

[happy_tiger]

So long as our next coach is NOT Matt Parish. He coached the CQ Comets up here a few years ago and did absolutely nothing. I also heard that he is a bit of a "looney", yelling and screaming tantrums, throwing stuff etc. Some people may describe this as "passion" but I don't want a coach like that at all.

Brother he got the Comets to the semis Tell me any CQ coach that has even looked like getting a team into the semis

Watch Bellamy in the box Gf day if they make a mistake He does his nana