NRL. Anti-Vaxers..

[Elderslie_Tiger]

It was well publicised over a year ago, that there would most probably be multiple shots plus boosters.

As long as it helps to keep you out of ICU what does it really matter

 

[jirskyr]

I would again remind people that just because someone has decided against taking this experimental jab, it does not necessarily make them an "anti-vaxxer". I know lots of folk who have not taken these jabs but do still take real vaccines for different diseases either as a prophylactic or as a treatment.

No but it makes them ill informed.

Well, that is your opinion. My opinion is that they may well be very well informed and have as a result of that information, come to a different conclusion. Surely you should respect that. It is insane to believe that everyone should come to the same conclusion as everyone else when confronted with the same information.
What should not be debated is the individual's right to choose without coercion of losing employment and the host of other 'policies' implemented.
We were born with inalienable rights, and no one, least of all politicians of dubious ethics and morals, nor health ministers nor un-elected health bureaucrats should behave as if those were rights they could remove or give back as they see fit.
For those who are OK with this - what happens when the next crisis occurs, (and it will). And what happens if the Government's response is to impose restrictions/sanctions/mandates, that impact you in an unacceptable way? (And they will).
Will it still be OK? Or are you just going to ignore it for now, and hope it doesn't happen? Once lost, these rights we have so carelessly allowed to be taken from us, are not easily reclaimed.
Think about it.
And for God's sake, look outside of what you are hearing on the ABC, 9,7,10. There is some amazing information from some very highly qualified and informed people who have every reason to be heard, yet are silenced by Big Tech and from the MSM.

It is an ill informed decision, no if or buts about it. There is plenty of data out there to show the effectiveness of the vaccines, including what has happened right here in NSW.

Yep, so effective they now are wanting you to take a 3rd shot of the same stuff that has already shown to have no lasting efficacy. And, as a prelude to what will happen here, the UK are now suggesting a 4th shot for their folk. Greg Hunt has ordered enough of the stuff for every Australian to have 6 shots! And with every shot, your own immune system is weakened.

But hey, whatever rocks your boat. Your body, your choice - as it should be.

You have as many shots as you need mate. Many vaccines are not life-long, it depends on the disease and the vaccine. As others have pointed out, annual fluvax is normal. Diptheria vax is given approx 5 times between childhood and adolescence; and if you lived in an endemic diptheria country you'd be getting one approx every 5 years.

You don't take a Panadol and expect to not ever get headaches again; doesn't mean Panadol doesn't work either.

But a shot every 6 months is OK for you? OK. Be my guest.
Remember, this was supposed to be one shot, then it was 2 shots and now a third. Israel has just approved a 4th. You reckon this will end?
Nah. if you have chosen the jab, you will be getting one every 6 months or you will no longer be considered 'vaccinated'.

Firstly, no it's not necessarily *every* 6 months. Some vaccines are annual or bi-annual affairs, some need a series, some need just one. For example Infanrix (diptheria, tetanus, whooping cough) in kids is a 5 dose series between 2 months and 4 years old, and adults will need boosters of all these jabs in their lifetime as their risks change (e.g. travelling overseas, stepping on a rusty nail etc.)

Whooping cough boosters especially recommended for parents.

And no it was never "supposed to be one shot". Vaccines are rarely one shot, that's not how the immune system works. And for a new vaccine, they will never know for certain how many shots is best at the beginning of the campaign, because it depends on average population immune memory.

Lastly, what's the big deal? You get your car serviced twice a year, you visit the dentist twice a year, people get health checks twice a year, you do your taxes once a year. None of these are fun but it's not a big deal in the context of your life. Honestly that's got to be one of the dumbest excuses I've seen, that you wouldn't want to have to do something twice a year (and that's your worst-case scenario) for your own health and the health of the community.

 

[jirskyr]

I would again remind people that just because someone has decided against taking this experimental jab, it does not necessarily make them an "anti-vaxxer". I know lots of folk who have not taken these jabs but do still take real vaccines for different diseases either as a prophylactic or as a treatment.

No but it makes them ill informed.

Well, that is your opinion. My opinion is that they may well be very well informed and have as a result of that information, come to a different conclusion. Surely you should respect that. It is insane to believe that everyone should come to the same conclusion as everyone else when confronted with the same information.
What should not be debated is the individual's right to choose without coercion of losing employment and the host of other 'policies' implemented.
We were born with inalienable rights, and no one, least of all politicians of dubious ethics and morals, nor health ministers nor un-elected health bureaucrats should behave as if those were rights they could remove or give back as they see fit.
For those who are OK with this - what happens when the next crisis occurs, (and it will). And what happens if the Government's response is to impose restrictions/sanctions/mandates, that impact you in an unacceptable way? (And they will).
Will it still be OK? Or are you just going to ignore it for now, and hope it doesn't happen? Once lost, these rights we have so carelessly allowed to be taken from us, are not easily reclaimed.
Think about it.
And for God's sake, look outside of what you are hearing on the ABC, 9,7,10. There is some amazing information from some very highly qualified and informed people who have every reason to be heard, yet are silenced by Big Tech and from the MSM.

It is an ill informed decision, no if or buts about it. There is plenty of data out there to show the effectiveness of the vaccines, including what has happened right here in NSW.

Yep, so effective they now are wanting you to take a 3rd shot of the same stuff that has already shown to have no lasting efficacy. And, as a prelude to what will happen here, the UK are now suggesting a 4th shot for their folk. Greg Hunt has ordered enough of the stuff for every Australian to have 6 shots! And with every shot, your own immune system is weakened.

But hey, whatever rocks your boat. Your body, your choice - as it should be.

You have as many shots as you need mate. Many vaccines are not life-long, it depends on the disease and the vaccine. As others have pointed out, annual fluvax is normal. Diptheria vax is given approx 5 times between childhood and adolescence; and if you lived in an endemic diptheria country you'd be getting one approx every 5 years.

You don't take a Panadol and expect to not ever get headaches again; doesn't mean Panadol doesn't work either.

But a shot every 6 months is OK for you? OK. Be my guest.
Remember, this was supposed to be one shot, then it was 2 shots and now a third. Israel has just approved a 4th. You reckon this will end?
Nah. if you have chosen the jab, you will be getting one every 6 months or you will no longer be considered 'vaccinated'.
And if you don't get one you will be considered unvaccinated.

What's the big deal?
People are happy to get flu shots every year without any conspiracy theories.

It's just an excuse mate, its a never-ending list of excuses for anti vaxxers.

 

[colinbh]

I would again remind people that just because someone has decided against taking this experimental jab, it does not necessarily make them an "anti-vaxxer". I know lots of folk who have not taken these jabs but do still take real vaccines for different diseases either as a prophylactic or as a treatment.

No but it makes them ill informed.

Well, that is your opinion. My opinion is that they may well be very well informed and have as a result of that information, come to a different conclusion. Surely you should respect that. It is insane to believe that everyone should come to the same conclusion as everyone else when confronted with the same information.
What should not be debated is the individual's right to choose without coercion of losing employment and the host of other 'policies' implemented.
We were born with inalienable rights, and no one, least of all politicians of dubious ethics and morals, nor health ministers nor un-elected health bureaucrats should behave as if those were rights they could remove or give back as they see fit.
For those who are OK with this - what happens when the next crisis occurs, (and it will). And what happens if the Government's response is to impose restrictions/sanctions/mandates, that impact you in an unacceptable way? (And they will).
Will it still be OK? Or are you just going to ignore it for now, and hope it doesn't happen? Once lost, these rights we have so carelessly allowed to be taken from us, are not easily reclaimed.
Think about it.
And for God's sake, look outside of what you are hearing on the ABC, 9,7,10. There is some amazing information from some very highly qualified and informed people who have every reason to be heard, yet are silenced by Big Tech and from the MSM.

It is an ill informed decision, no if or buts about it. There is plenty of data out there to show the effectiveness of the vaccines, including what has happened right here in NSW.

Yep, so effective they now are wanting you to take a 3rd shot of the same stuff that has already shown to have no lasting efficacy. And, as a prelude to what will happen here, the UK are now suggesting a 4th shot for their folk. Greg Hunt has ordered enough of the stuff for every Australian to have 6 shots! And with every shot, your own immune system is weakened.

But hey, whatever rocks your boat. Your body, your choice - as it should be.

You have as many shots as you need mate. Many vaccines are not life-long, it depends on the disease and the vaccine. As others have pointed out, annual fluvax is normal. Diptheria vax is given approx 5 times between childhood and adolescence; and if you lived in an endemic diptheria country you'd be getting one approx every 5 years.

You don't take a Panadol and expect to not ever get headaches again; doesn't mean Panadol doesn't work either.

But a shot every 6 months is OK for you? OK. Be my guest.
Remember, this was supposed to be one shot, then it was 2 shots and now a third. Israel has just approved a 4th. You reckon this will end?
Nah. if you have chosen the jab, you will be getting one every 6 months or you will no longer be considered 'vaccinated'.
And if you don't get one you will be considered unvaccinated.

What's the big deal?
People are happy to get flu shots every year without any conspiracy theories.

It's just an excuse mate, its a never-ending list of excuses for anti vaxxers.

I wonder how many would take the vaccine if you had to pay full freight for it?

 

[Merlot]

there is chatter that corprate oz are circling the wagons 2 have the none double vax excluded from employment

 

[jirskyr]

I would again remind people that just because someone has decided against taking this experimental jab, it does not necessarily make them an "anti-vaxxer". I know lots of folk who have not taken these jabs but do still take real vaccines for different diseases either as a prophylactic or as a treatment.

No but it makes them ill informed.

Well, that is your opinion. My opinion is that they may well be very well informed and have as a result of that information, come to a different conclusion. Surely you should respect that. It is insane to believe that everyone should come to the same conclusion as everyone else when confronted with the same information.
What should not be debated is the individual's right to choose without coercion of losing employment and the host of other 'policies' implemented.
We were born with inalienable rights, and no one, least of all politicians of dubious ethics and morals, nor health ministers nor un-elected health bureaucrats should behave as if those were rights they could remove or give back as they see fit.
For those who are OK with this - what happens when the next crisis occurs, (and it will). And what happens if the Government's response is to impose restrictions/sanctions/mandates, that impact you in an unacceptable way? (And they will).
Will it still be OK? Or are you just going to ignore it for now, and hope it doesn't happen? Once lost, these rights we have so carelessly allowed to be taken from us, are not easily reclaimed.
Think about it.
And for God's sake, look outside of what you are hearing on the ABC, 9,7,10. There is some amazing information from some very highly qualified and informed people who have every reason to be heard, yet are silenced by Big Tech and from the MSM.

It is an ill informed decision, no if or buts about it. There is plenty of data out there to show the effectiveness of the vaccines, including what has happened right here in NSW.

Yep, so effective they now are wanting you to take a 3rd shot of the same stuff that has already shown to have no lasting efficacy. And, as a prelude to what will happen here, the UK are now suggesting a 4th shot for their folk. Greg Hunt has ordered enough of the stuff for every Australian to have 6 shots! And with every shot, your own immune system is weakened.

But hey, whatever rocks your boat. Your body, your choice - as it should be.

You have as many shots as you need mate. Many vaccines are not life-long, it depends on the disease and the vaccine. As others have pointed out, annual fluvax is normal. Diptheria vax is given approx 5 times between childhood and adolescence; and if you lived in an endemic diptheria country you'd be getting one approx every 5 years.

You don't take a Panadol and expect to not ever get headaches again; doesn't mean Panadol doesn't work either.

But a shot every 6 months is OK for you? OK. Be my guest.
Remember, this was supposed to be one shot, then it was 2 shots and now a third. Israel has just approved a 4th. You reckon this will end?
Nah. if you have chosen the jab, you will be getting one every 6 months or you will no longer be considered 'vaccinated'.
And if you don't get one you will be considered unvaccinated.

What's the big deal?
People are happy to get flu shots every year without any conspiracy theories.

It's just an excuse mate, its a never-ending list of excuses for anti vaxxers.

I wonder how many would take the vaccine if you had to pay full freight for it?

Far far fewer. But that is true of many medications subsidised by the govt.

 

[tig_prmz]

I would again remind people that just because someone has decided against taking this experimental jab, it does not necessarily make them an "anti-vaxxer". I know lots of folk who have not taken these jabs but do still take real vaccines for different diseases either as a prophylactic or as a treatment.

No but it makes them ill informed.

Well, that is your opinion. My opinion is that they may well be very well informed and have as a result of that information, come to a different conclusion. Surely you should respect that. It is insane to believe that everyone should come to the same conclusion as everyone else when confronted with the same information.
What should not be debated is the individual's right to choose without coercion of losing employment and the host of other 'policies' implemented.
We were born with inalienable rights, and no one, least of all politicians of dubious ethics and morals, nor health ministers nor un-elected health bureaucrats should behave as if those were rights they could remove or give back as they see fit.
For those who are OK with this - what happens when the next crisis occurs, (and it will). And what happens if the Government's response is to impose restrictions/sanctions/mandates, that impact you in an unacceptable way? (And they will).
Will it still be OK? Or are you just going to ignore it for now, and hope it doesn't happen? Once lost, these rights we have so carelessly allowed to be taken from us, are not easily reclaimed.
Think about it.
And for God's sake, look outside of what you are hearing on the ABC, 9,7,10. There is some amazing information from some very highly qualified and informed people who have every reason to be heard, yet are silenced by Big Tech and from the MSM.

It is an ill informed decision, no if or buts about it. There is plenty of data out there to show the effectiveness of the vaccines, including what has happened right here in NSW.

Yep, so effective they now are wanting you to take a 3rd shot of the same stuff that has already shown to have no lasting efficacy. And, as a prelude to what will happen here, the UK are now suggesting a 4th shot for their folk. Greg Hunt has ordered enough of the stuff for every Australian to have 6 shots! And with every shot, your own immune system is weakened.

But hey, whatever rocks your boat. Your body, your choice - as it should be.

You have as many shots as you need mate. Many vaccines are not life-long, it depends on the disease and the vaccine. As others have pointed out, annual fluvax is normal. Diptheria vax is given approx 5 times between childhood and adolescence; and if you lived in an endemic diptheria country you'd be getting one approx every 5 years.

You don't take a Panadol and expect to not ever get headaches again; doesn't mean Panadol doesn't work either.

But a shot every 6 months is OK for you? OK. Be my guest.
Remember, this was supposed to be one shot, then it was 2 shots and now a third. Israel has just approved a 4th. You reckon this will end?
Nah. if you have chosen the jab, you will be getting one every 6 months or you will no longer be considered 'vaccinated'.
And if you don't get one you will be considered unvaccinated.

What's the big deal?
People are happy to get flu shots every year without any conspiracy theories.

It's just an excuse mate, its a never-ending list of excuses for anti vaxxers.

I wonder how many would take the vaccine if you had to pay full freight for it?

How many would see the GP for the normal flu if they had to pay $80 from their pockets?

 

[Merlot]

who's feeling more connected 2 their devices since the double shot? lol .the so called world brain trust[top 20 rich list ] thinks its ok if we are A1 connected .there coming 4 us Earl

 

[Geo]

Here is the reaction to what some of the intellectually challenged have come out with in response to the NRL Covid restrictions….

Canberra Raiders and NSW Blues five-eighth Jack Wighton, “Thought I was getting the stupid vax so I didn't have to put up with this shit".

Josh Addo-Carr, "Unbelievable, got double vaxed for (nothing)"

Latrell Mitchell, “WTF?".

They are NRL players and not Rocket Scientists for a reason.

 

[crazycat]

>
Totally disagree. Absolutely gutless by the NRL not to set it as policy and leaving it up to someone else to take make the tough call.

I disagree with you. The easy call would have been to make it compulsory as every other organisation is doing it. Not making it compulsory is less gutless.

V'landy has plenty of negative qualities but the way he has handled the pandemic has been fantastic. Not just him, the entire NRL.

As for the rule changes and using 2020/21 as experiments.. that's another story.

Well we disagree. It’s gutless letting someone else make the inevitable tough call. Weak as water in my opinion. Shows a total lack of leadership.

Dead set right.
The NRL should have leadership on this point. If were having teams travel and travel interstate then they need to own this.

What happens if a young player gets Covid in spite of the Vaccination. Is the NRL Liable for any Lung capacity decrease?
Sense of smell wont effect their income earning capacity but a 20% drop in lung capacity will. If Latrell Mitchell or Kalyn Ponga get infected and goes from Gun to not making first grade then they would have a good case against the NRL.

 

[philgood]

Here is the reaction to what some of the intellectually challenged have come out with in response to the NRL Covid restrictions….

Canberra Raiders and NSW Blues five-eighth Jack Wighton, “Thought I was getting the stupid vax so I didn't have to put up with this shit".

Josh Addo-Carr, "Unbelievable, got double vaxed for (nothing)"

Latrell Mitchell, “WTF?".

They are NRL players and not Rocket Scientists for a reason.

Yeah and the players make an excellent point. Using vaccination as the ONLY method of dealing with this pandemic is floored, idiotic, and the results are there for all to see. Been 2 years and we still going round in circles.

As it stands, there is no treatment for covid until your lungs are damaged and you cant breathe. You are then advised to go to hospital (ahh too late perhaps?).

A better way is giving EARLY medical care (which exist via many different forms of effective medicines - ivrmctn, hydroxychloroquin, even quercetin). This way people would stay out of hospital, we wouldnt have lockdowns, and we get on with life again

 

[SeanT]

Djockovich getting an exemption to play at the Australian open. I mean seriously why would anyone take any of these rules serious when they get flouted like this. Will AFL and the storm in Victoria abide by it since you can get an exemption because your the best player?

Just completely hate it when this happens and yet a duly can't come and see a dying relative.

 

[rihannafan1]

Here is the reaction to what some of the intellectually challenged have come out with in response to the NRL Covid restrictions….

Canberra Raiders and NSW Blues five-eighth Jack Wighton, “Thought I was getting the stupid vax so I didn't have to put up with this shit".

Josh Addo-Carr, "Unbelievable, got double vaxed for (nothing)"

Latrell Mitchell, “WTF?".

They are NRL players and not Rocket Scientists for a reason.

Imagine being a grownup earning 500k+ to play sport and this being your response to bad news. Suck it up lads or go play for Featherstone with Asiata.

 

[paul wright]

Here is the reaction to what some of the intellectually challenged have come out with in response to the NRL Covid restrictions….

Canberra Raiders and NSW Blues five-eighth Jack Wighton, “Thought I was getting the stupid vax so I didn't have to put up with this shit".

Josh Addo-Carr, "Unbelievable, got double vaxed for (nothing)"

Latrell Mitchell, “WTF?".

They are NRL players and not Rocket Scientists for a reason.

To think that some of our supporters wanted these intellectual giants to be senior players in our squad.Thank goodness they are not with us

 

[Kul]

My belief is that those who aren't vaccinate are unsafe so I don't want them near my team.

 

[Eternal Tiger]

Vlandys didn't mandate the vaccine for fear of 100 players jumping ship and playing Union instead. AFL and Soccer don't have the issue of a similar code being a threat.

 

[innsaneink]

Can employers ask for proof of being a close contact with spouse (citing spouses + result) before they pay sick leave for isolating?

 

[Demps]

Can employers ask for proof of being a close contact with spouse (citing spouses + result) before they pay sick leave for isolating?

I'd assume they can ask for whatever they want...

Privacy act may allow for one to not provide anything though.

 

[jirskyr]

Here is the reaction to what some of the intellectually challenged have come out with in response to the NRL Covid restrictions….

Canberra Raiders and NSW Blues five-eighth Jack Wighton, “Thought I was getting the stupid vax so I didn't have to put up with this shit".

Josh Addo-Carr, "Unbelievable, got double vaxed for (nothing)"

Latrell Mitchell, “WTF?".

They are NRL players and not Rocket Scientists for a reason.

Yeah and the players make an excellent point. Using vaccination as the ONLY method of dealing with this pandemic is floored, idiotic, and the results are there for all to see. Been 2 years and we still going round in circles.

As it stands, there is no treatment for covid until your lungs are damaged and you cant breathe. You are then advised to go to hospital (ahh too late perhaps?).

A better way is giving EARLY medical care (which exist via many different forms of effective medicines - ivrmctn, hydroxychloroquin, even quercetin). This way people would stay out of hospital, we wouldnt have lockdowns, and we get on with life again

Not correct at all.

Nobody is using vaccination as the only method of dealing with pandemic.

And the word is "flawed".