NRL buying Super League stake?

[frullens]

I think its a must for the long term survival of rugby league.

Professional rugby league in UK is going backwards. If the professional game dies over there. The game in Australia becomes isolated. Then in 30 years time, we may start to also be out competed against bigger global sports.

NRL admin can bring a lot to the table that would hugely assist ESL in marketing, sponsorship, strategy, professionalism. The NRL app could be used to show both leagues and the NRL could make some $$ in the U.K.

I wrote a few years back about the benefits of both leagues working together, particularly if clubs were formally affiliated, much like with the state leagues.

https://www.theroar.com.au/2014/01/23/how-the-nrl-and-super-league-could-make-rugby-league-stronger/

 

[Tiger5150]

Apparently the NRL is in talks to buy a controlling stake in the Super League, for what would be north of $100,000,000.

What are people's thoughts on this? I think it could be good for the game. Might revive more interest in international football. Might also ensure Toronto's continued presence (everything was on the up for them, then covid knocked them out). ***On the other hand, not sure where the money is coming from.***

Wondering how the NRL will reconcile asking all the players to take a 6% haircut whilst buying a $100M stake in another competition.

 

[hobbo1]

Maybe the Brisbane broncos can join and become the 12th team and relive there super league dream. They might not finish last either!
Still makes me laugh...the broncos finished last.

I was thinking along similar lines ..
The NRL spooners get relegated to the ESL and the ESL winners come here ..
One season only ..

 

[Deleted member 3518]

I think its a must for the long term survival of rugby league.

Professional rugby league in UK is going backwards. If the professional game dies over there. The game in Australia becomes isolated. Then in 30 years time, we may start to also be out competed against bigger global sports.

NRL admin can bring a lot to the table that would hugely assist ESL in marketing, sponsorship, strategy, professionalism. The NRL app could be used to show both leagues and the NRL could make some $$ in the U.K.

I wrote a few years back about the benefits of both leagues working together, particularly if clubs were formally affiliated, much like with the state leagues.

https://www.theroar.com.au/2014/01/23/how-the-nrl-and-super-league-could-make-rugby-league-stronger/

I agree . It should be NRL Europe and NRL Aus . Use the brand of NRL to own all things RL . You can still have the IRL , but when people think team footy they think NRL . And sell that brand . NRL is popular internationally , way more than anything the SL has ever produced .
Halfthe SL teams need to go , or be relegated to whatever a clear second tier competition , with players feeding newly formed NRL Europe teams . If this means teams merge together to form super clubs . Then fine.
Much like here , they can maintain thier identity in feeder leagues .

 

[tig_prmz]

Sports is a culture and you can't make people follow a specific code overnight.

There needs to be overexposure and with TV dying down in general, it doesn't seem likely. The best way would be to link up with an online streaming platform and grow from there. You aren't going to get media/publicity unless everyone knows about it.

And lastly, you have to target the kids. How many of us 30+ are likely to follow another code at this age?

 

[tig_prmz]

I think its a must for the long term survival of rugby league.

Professional rugby league in UK is going backwards. If the professional game dies over there. The game in Australia becomes isolated. Then in 30 years time, we may start to also be out competed against bigger global sports.

NRL admin can bring a lot to the table that would hugely assist ESL in marketing, sponsorship, strategy, professionalism. The NRL app could be used to show both leagues and the NRL could make some $$ in the U.K.

I wrote a few years back about the benefits of both leagues working together, particularly if clubs were formally affiliated, much like with the state leagues.

https://www.theroar.com.au/2014/01/23/how-the-nrl-and-super-league-could-make-rugby-league-stronger/

Even the NRL is run by maybe 2 cities only- and even in Sydney it's just Western Sydney mostly.

At the end of the day, only the fanatics will watch SL. The timezones will never match.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Apparently the NRL is in talks to buy a controlling stake in the Super League, for what would be north of $100,000,000.

What are people's thoughts on this? I think it could be good for the game. Might revive more interest in international football. Might also ensure Toronto's continued presence (everything was on the up for them, then covid knocked them out). ***On the other hand, not sure where the money is coming from.***

Wondering how the NRL will reconcile asking all the players to take a 6% haircut whilst buying a $100M stake in another competition.

Revenue raising . If you can now sell 1 Elite comp , 1 second division comp , 2 regional comps with a rich history , and a u20s comp , it’s way more content to a potential investor or broadcaster. As well as being on 2 sides of the pond.

When you look at really basic clubs like red star Belgrade , obviously in Serbia , and potentially bringing up Toulouse and adding back the Toronto Wolfpack , you could really Europe the hell out of it.
The fact that “away fans buying tickets” is a business model , and one that the league is clinging to , is absolutely insane .
Your fans should fill your stadium , and if their isn’t enough fans to go around , merge teams , and get the guys in charge to hammer home that this is the way forward.
You could never merge the Hull teams , but that city is big enough for 2 teams . Wigan and St Hellens , are big enough to transcend thier lack of a geographical footprint , as well as Leeds is a city.
Really that just leaves Warrington , as the only other big SL club.
All the rest should be merged and packaged off for the betterment of the game .
The fact that The Toronto Wolfpack which had a solid base , couldn’t navigate the bull crap of teams wanting Salford vs Widnes , is absolutely ridiculous.

IMO it’s either this , or start a genuine push into North America to build a transatlantic league . If you make that big enough and sell it enough , as if the Wigan and St hellens of the world wouldn’t jump ship .
The time of bush league is over . RL is a great game , and the fact people think watching Harlequins vs Munster is a better option is insane . Especially when you see the crap rugby style plyed in the northern hemisphere.

There is no reason why you can’t engage people if you market it correctly . The Wolfpack is a prime example of this .

You just have to get rid of geriatrics who think “you’re killing Rooogbi” when these bozos have been killing it for years with thier short sighted ness

 

[BZN]

Apparently the NRL is in talks to buy a controlling stake in the Super League, for what would be north of $100,000,000.

What are people's thoughts on this? I think it could be good for the game. Might revive more interest in international football. Might also ensure Toronto's continued presence (everything was on the up for them, then covid knocked them out). ***On the other hand, not sure where the money is coming from.***

Wondering how the NRL will reconcile asking all the players to take a 6% haircut whilst buying a $100M stake in another competition.

Revenue raising . If you can now sell 1 Elite comp , 1 second division comp , 2 regional comps with a rich history , and a u20s comp , it’s way more content to a potential investor or broadcaster. As well as being on 2 sides of the pond.

When you look at really basic clubs like red star Belgrade , obviously in Serbia , and potentially bringing up Toulouse and adding back the Toronto Wolfpack , you could really Europe the hell out of it.
The fact that “away fans buying tickets” is a business model , and one that the league is clinging to , is absolutely insane .
Your fans should fill your stadium , and if their isn’t enough fans to go around , merge teams , and get the guys in charge to hammer home that this is the way forward.
You could never merge the Hull teams , but that city is big enough for 2 teams . Wigan and St Hellens , are big enough to transcend thier lack of a geographical footprint , as well as Leeds is a city.
Really that just leaves Warrington , as the only other big SL club.
All the rest should be merged and packaged off for the betterment of the game .
The fact that The Toronto Wolfpack which had a solid base , couldn’t navigate the bull crap of teams wanting Salford vs Widnes , is absolutely ridiculous.

IMO it’s either this , or start a genuine push into North America to build a transatlantic league . If you make that big enough and sell it enough , as if the Wigan and St hellens of the world wouldn’t jump ship .
The time of bush league is over . RL is a great game , and the fact people think watching Harlequins vs Munster is a better option is insane . Especially when you see the crap rugby style plyed in the northern hemisphere.

There is no reason why you can’t engage people if you market it correctly . The Wolfpack is a prime example of this .

You just have to get rid of geriatrics who think “you’re killing Rooogbi” when these bozos have been killing it for years with thier short sighted ness

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[frullens]

Apparently the NRL is in talks to buy a controlling stake in the Super League, for what would be north of $100,000,000.

What are people's thoughts on this? I think it could be good for the game. Might revive more interest in international football. Might also ensure Toronto's continued presence (everything was on the up for them, then covid knocked them out). ***On the other hand, not sure where the money is coming from.***

Wondering how the NRL will reconcile asking all the players to take a 6% haircut whilst buying a $100M stake in another competition.

Revenue raising . If you can now sell 1 Elite comp , 1 second division comp , 2 regional comps with a rich history , and a u20s comp , it’s way more content to a potential investor or broadcaster. As well as being on 2 sides of the pond.

When you look at really basic clubs like red star Belgrade , obviously in Serbia , and potentially bringing up Toulouse and adding back the Toronto Wolfpack , you could really Europe the hell out of it.
The fact that “away fans buying tickets” is a business model , and one that the league is clinging to , is absolutely insane .
Your fans should fill your stadium , and if their isn’t enough fans to go around , merge teams , and get the guys in charge to hammer home that this is the way forward.
You could never merge the Hull teams , but that city is big enough for 2 teams . Wigan and St Hellens , are big enough to transcend thier lack of a geographical footprint , as well as Leeds is a city.
Really that just leaves Warrington , as the only other big SL club.
All the rest should be merged and packaged off for the betterment of the game .
The fact that The Toronto Wolfpack which had a solid base , couldn’t navigate the bull crap of teams wanting Salford vs Widnes , is absolutely ridiculous.

IMO it’s either this , or start a genuine push into North America to build a transatlantic league . If you make that big enough and sell it enough , as if the Wigan and St hellens of the world wouldn’t jump ship .
The time of bush league is over . RL is a great game , and the fact people think watching Harlequins vs Munster is a better option is insane . Especially when you see the crap rugby style plyed in the northern hemisphere.

There is no reason why you can’t engage people if you market it correctly . The Wolfpack is a prime example of this .

You just have to get rid of geriatrics who think “you’re killing Rooogbi” when these bozos have been killing it for years with thier short sighted

ness

Completely agree Strongee! Well said

 

[frullens]

I think its a must for the long term survival of rugby league.

Professional rugby league in UK is going backwards. If the professional game dies over there. The game in Australia becomes isolated. Then in 30 years time, we may start to also be out competed against bigger global sports.

NRL admin can bring a lot to the table that would hugely assist ESL in marketing, sponsorship, strategy, professionalism. The NRL app could be used to show both leagues and the NRL could make some $$ in the U.K.

I wrote a few years back about the benefits of both leagues working together, particularly if clubs were formally affiliated, much like with the state leagues.

https://www.theroar.com.au/2014/01/23/how-the-nrl-and-super-league-could-make-rugby-league-stronger/

Even the NRL is run by maybe 2 cities only- and even in Sydney it's just Western Sydney mostly.

At the end of the day, only the fanatics will watch SL. The timezones will never match.

I've looked into timezones previously, and if you can get the Sunday afternoon game (played in uk at on free to air 7am Saturday morning) on free to air in the UK, you'll tap into a huge market, particularly kids. Get them hooked and away we go.

https://www.theroar.com.au/2017/07/24/nrl-must-get-smart-tv-times/

 

[Krammy]

Apparently the NRL is in talks to buy a controlling stake in the Super League, for what would be north of $100,000,000.

What are people's thoughts on this? I think it could be good for the game. Might revive more interest in international football. Might also ensure Toronto's continued presence (everything was on the up for them, then covid knocked them out). ***On the other hand, not sure where the money is coming from.***

Wondering how the NRL will reconcile asking all the players to take a 6% haircut whilst buying a $100M stake in another competition.

Revenue raising . If you can now sell 1 Elite comp , 1 second division comp , 2 regional comps with a rich history , and a u20s comp , it’s way more content to a potential investor or broadcaster. As well as being on 2 sides of the pond.

When you look at really basic clubs like red star Belgrade , obviously in Serbia , and potentially bringing up Toulouse and adding back the Toronto Wolfpack , you could really Europe the hell out of it.
The fact that “away fans buying tickets” is a business model , and one that the league is clinging to , is absolutely insane .
Your fans should fill your stadium , and if their isn’t enough fans to go around , merge teams , and get the guys in charge to hammer home that this is the way forward.
You could never merge the Hull teams , but that city is big enough for 2 teams . Wigan and St Hellens , are big enough to transcend thier lack of a geographical footprint , as well as Leeds is a city.
Really that just leaves Warrington , as the only other big SL club.
All the rest should be merged and packaged off for the betterment of the game .
The fact that The Toronto Wolfpack which had a solid base , couldn’t navigate the bull crap of teams wanting Salford vs Widnes , is absolutely ridiculous.

IMO it’s either this , or start a genuine push into North America to build a transatlantic league . If you make that big enough and sell it enough , as if the Wigan and St hellens of the world wouldn’t jump ship .
The time of bush league is over . RL is a great game , and the fact people think watching Harlequins vs Munster is a better option is insane . Especially when you see the crap rugby style plyed in the northern hemisphere.

There is no reason why you can’t engage people if you market it correctly . The Wolfpack is a prime example of this .

You just have to get rid of geriatrics who think “you’re killing Rooogbi” when these bozos have been killing it for years with thier short sighted ness

Absolutely on the ball post. I totally agree with the notion of 'the time of the bush post' is over. There is such potential in Europe and North America. But the days of Salford V Wakefield, with home crowds of around 2000 fans are gone. If the people in the UK want to stick to this model, they may as well start looking for coffins fror the Superleague will be dead in 10 years.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Apparently the NRL is in talks to buy a controlling stake in the Super League, for what would be north of $100,000,000.

What are people's thoughts on this? I think it could be good for the game. Might revive more interest in international football. Might also ensure Toronto's continued presence (everything was on the up for them, then covid knocked them out). ***On the other hand, not sure where the money is coming from.***

Wondering how the NRL will reconcile asking all the players to take a 6% haircut whilst buying a $100M stake in another competition.

Revenue raising . If you can now sell 1 Elite comp , 1 second division comp , 2 regional comps with a rich history , and a u20s comp , it’s way more content to a potential investor or broadcaster. As well as being on 2 sides of the pond.

When you look at really basic clubs like red star Belgrade , obviously in Serbia , and potentially bringing up Toulouse and adding back the Toronto Wolfpack , you could really Europe the hell out of it.
The fact that “away fans buying tickets” is a business model , and one that the league is clinging to , is absolutely insane .
Your fans should fill your stadium , and if their isn’t enough fans to go around , merge teams , and get the guys in charge to hammer home that this is the way forward.
You could never merge the Hull teams , but that city is big enough for 2 teams . Wigan and St Hellens , are big enough to transcend thier lack of a geographical footprint , as well as Leeds is a city.
Really that just leaves Warrington , as the only other big SL club.
All the rest should be merged and packaged off for the betterment of the game .
The fact that The Toronto Wolfpack which had a solid base , couldn’t navigate the bull crap of teams wanting Salford vs Widnes , is absolutely ridiculous.

IMO it’s either this , or start a genuine push into North America to build a transatlantic league . If you make that big enough and sell it enough , as if the Wigan and St hellens of the world wouldn’t jump ship .
The time of bush league is over . RL is a great game , and the fact people think watching Harlequins vs Munster is a better option is insane . Especially when you see the crap rugby style plyed in the northern hemisphere.

There is no reason why you can’t engage people if you market it correctly . The Wolfpack is a prime example of this .

You just have to get rid of geriatrics who think “you’re killing Rooogbi” when these bozos have been killing it for years with thier short sighted ness

Absolutely on the ball post. I totally agree with the notion of 'the time of the bush post' is over. There is such potential in Europe and North America. But the days of Salford V Wakefield, with home crowds of around 2000 fans are gone. If the people in the UK want to stick to this model, they may as well start looking for coffins fror the Superleague will be dead in 10 years.

You can totally pluck a league from nothing as well . If you let SL die ,and said you either merge with someone, be a feeder club for a new identity , or get funding for your own , the fans will come. Mainly because you can market it as something completely devoid of the existing crap.
Case in point Wests Tigers and the Whole A league . You can do it , if there’s a drive to push the concept of a new dawn.
The reason things like the northern Eagles and to a lesser extent the dragons/ Steelers were takeovers or failures , is because there was no good faith from both parties . It was robbery.
It’s almost worth just putting a line through the whole league and getting people to invest in a whole new identity .
In saying that . As if St hellens and Wigan are going anywhere . As well as Catalans .which will create more problems of perceived nepotism from lesser clubs , who can’t see how useless they are .

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Apparently the NRL is in talks to buy a controlling stake in the Super League, for what would be north of $100,000,000.

What are people's thoughts on this? I think it could be good for the game. Might revive more interest in international football. Might also ensure Toronto's continued presence (everything was on the up for them, then covid knocked them out). ***On the other hand, not sure where the money is coming from.***

Wondering how the NRL will reconcile asking all the players to take a 6% haircut whilst buying a $100M stake in another competition.

Revenue raising . If you can now sell 1 Elite comp , 1 second division comp , 2 regional comps with a rich history , and a u20s comp , it’s way more content to a potential investor or broadcaster. As well as being on 2 sides of the pond.

When you look at really basic clubs like red star Belgrade , obviously in Serbia , and potentially bringing up Toulouse and adding back the Toronto Wolfpack , you could really Europe the hell out of it.
The fact that “away fans buying tickets” is a business model , and one that the league is clinging to , is absolutely insane .
Your fans should fill your stadium , and if their isn’t enough fans to go around , merge teams , and get the guys in charge to hammer home that this is the way forward.
You could never merge the Hull teams , but that city is big enough for 2 teams . Wigan and St Hellens , are big enough to transcend thier lack of a geographical footprint , as well as Leeds is a city.
Really that just leaves Warrington , as the only other big SL club.
All the rest should be merged and packaged off for the betterment of the game .
The fact that The Toronto Wolfpack which had a solid base , couldn’t navigate the bull crap of teams wanting Salford vs Widnes , is absolutely ridiculous.

IMO it’s either this , or start a genuine push into North America to build a transatlantic league . If you make that big enough and sell it enough , as if the Wigan and St hellens of the world wouldn’t jump ship .
The time of bush league is over . RL is a great game , and the fact people think watching Harlequins vs Munster is a better option is insane . Especially when you see the crap rugby style plyed in the northern hemisphere.

There is no reason why you can’t engage people if you market it correctly . The Wolfpack is a prime example of this .

You just have to get rid of geriatrics who think “you’re killing Rooogbi” when these bozos have been killing it for years with thier short sighted ness

My mate was the coach of Red Star for about 8 months before he had to return home for health reasons. Pretty sure they went undefeated in that time and won the Balkans cup and the Serbian league title. The game is gaining traction in Serbia, but it also helps when your club is the richest sports club in the country (their football club is huge.)

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Apparently the NRL is in talks to buy a controlling stake in the Super League, for what would be north of $100,000,000.

What are people's thoughts on this? I think it could be good for the game. Might revive more interest in international football. Might also ensure Toronto's continued presence (everything was on the up for them, then covid knocked them out). ***On the other hand, not sure where the money is coming from.***

Wondering how the NRL will reconcile asking all the players to take a 6% haircut whilst buying a $100M stake in another competition.

Revenue raising . If you can now sell 1 Elite comp , 1 second division comp , 2 regional comps with a rich history , and a u20s comp , it’s way more content to a potential investor or broadcaster. As well as being on 2 sides of the pond.

When you look at really basic clubs like red star Belgrade , obviously in Serbia , and potentially bringing up Toulouse and adding back the Toronto Wolfpack , you could really Europe the hell out of it.
The fact that “away fans buying tickets” is a business model , and one that the league is clinging to , is absolutely insane .
Your fans should fill your stadium , and if their isn’t enough fans to go around , merge teams , and get the guys in charge to hammer home that this is the way forward.
You could never merge the Hull teams , but that city is big enough for 2 teams . Wigan and St Hellens , are big enough to transcend thier lack of a geographical footprint , as well as Leeds is a city.
Really that just leaves Warrington , as the only other big SL club.
All the rest should be merged and packaged off for the betterment of the game .
The fact that The Toronto Wolfpack which had a solid base , couldn’t navigate the bull crap of teams wanting Salford vs Widnes , is absolutely ridiculous.

IMO it’s either this , or start a genuine push into North America to build a transatlantic league . If you make that big enough and sell it enough , as if the Wigan and St hellens of the world wouldn’t jump ship .
The time of bush league is over . RL is a great game , and the fact people think watching Harlequins vs Munster is a better option is insane . Especially when you see the crap rugby style plyed in the northern hemisphere.

There is no reason why you can’t engage people if you market it correctly . The Wolfpack is a prime example of this .

You just have to get rid of geriatrics who think “you’re killing Rooogbi” when these bozos have been killing it for years with thier short sighted ness

My mate was the coach of Red Star for about 8 months before he had to return home for health reasons. Pretty sure they went undefeated in that time and won the Balkans cup and the Serbian league title. The game is gaining traction in Serbia, but it also helps when your club is the richest sports club in the country (their football club is huge.)

Whatever it takes . Eastern block is bunch of tough , loose countries . It’s no surprise they’d be attracted to a game like RL. It’s pretty crazy when you think about it . Even at a lower level , half the tackles are the equivalent to varying degrees of car crashes . Plus the endurance as well .