NRL doesn't care if Wests Tigers stay in Balmain

Gary_Bakerloo

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**NRL doesn't care if Wests Tigers stay in Balmain, says Leichhardt mayor**

Date August 15
Michael Carayannis

Leichhardt Council has hit out at the NRL, accusing the game's bosses of “not giving a damn” if the Wests Tigers remain in its Balmain heartland.

Balmain’s viability in the joint-venture with Western Suburbs remains vulnerable following the uncertainty surrounding the Balmain Leagues Club’s Victoria Road development.

The long-running battle over the development is in the hands of the local council after the most recent proposal – for 247 apartments in two towers, at 24 and 20 storeys high, and parking for almost 500 cars – was rejected by the independent Planning Assessment Commission in April.

The developers – Rozelle Village – have been trying to put the club into receivership over debts of more than $11 million, which could be the death knell for the Tigers involvement in rugby league at the elite level.

Mayor Darcy Byrne wrote to NRL chief executive Dave Smith on May 16 following a Save the Tigers meeting, which about 100 people attended. Byrne has yet to receive a response.

“Failing to even respond to a letter in almost three months indicates that they don’t give a damn if the Tigers survive or not,” Byrne said. “Without a Balmain Tigers football club there is a real risk that we won’t see games played at Leichhardt Oval in the future and the Wests Tigers revert to being the Magpies.

“Given the seriousness of the situation, the ARL Commission should be displaying a lot more energy to assist the club.”

An NRL spokesman said the governing body would hold off making decisions about the long-term future of the Tigers until it finalised an independent board at the club. It is understood the process is close to completion.

“The most important thing we can do is ensure the Wests Tigers have strong, consistent leadership and that’s what we want to achieve with the new board,” the spokesman said.

“Once the board is in place we will continue to look at ways to ensure the Wests Tigers have a secure long-term future.”

Financially, Balmain are at the Magpies' mercy. Byrne is leading the campaign to set up a foundation which would see Balmain raise money through diehard fans or benefactors – similar to the model used by the AFL’s Richmond Tigers in 2011.

“The council has resolved to assist outside of making financial contributions,” Byrne said.

“[We’ll provide] legal advice and public promotion of a foundation when it’s set up. We’ve made it clear to the Balmain Football Club that we are ready to assist with that and we really need the ARL Commission to at least start talking to us to make sure that one of the most iconic and historic brands doesn’t become extinct.

“It feels like the council is the only one fighting to ensure the Tigers remain part of the joint-venture.”
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@Gary Bakerloo said:
Byrne said. “Without a Balmain Tigers football club there is a real risk that we won’t see games played at Leichhardt Oval in the future and the Wests Tigers revert to being the Magpies.

What an idiot. Nothing more than fear mongering. Cos the relationship between both supporter bases isn't strained enough, we need a politician throwing petrol into the fire to benefit himself and his local government.
 
The problem in this process has been how long the independent board process has taken

Its almost like an election , no one is game to do anything until the new party is on board

I wonder how this has affected any recruitment of players or even coaching staff
 
This Darcey Byrne is a first class wanker.

Love how he accidently omits his own council's role in the demise of Balmain.
 
Someone was's arguing before we could get 2000 people to put up $2000 each to save Balmain…..yet we see only 100 bother to turn up to the meeting
 
@happy tiger said:
The problem in this process has been how long the independent board process has taken

Its almost like an election , no one is game to do anything until the new party is on board

I wonder how this has affected any recruitment of players or even coaching staff

Since the drama started we have had two player re-signings (Ava Seumanufagai and Sitaleki Akuaola), plus two sponsorship deals done (Allied Express and Meriton). Doesn't seem to be affecting things too badly.
 
“The council has resolved to assist outside of making financial contributions,” Byrne said.

:laughing: :laughing: How nice of Mr Byrne
 
@azsportza said:
@happy tiger said:
The problem in this process has been how long the independent board process has taken

Its almost like an election , no one is game to do anything until the new party is on board

I wonder how this has affected any recruitment of players or even coaching staff

Since the drama started we have had two player re-signings (Ava Seumanufagai and Sitaleki Akuaola), plus two sponsorship deals done (Allied Express and Meriton). Doesn't seem to be affecting things too badly.

Sorry Az was talking about external signings as well

Guessing we will need either a replacement for Payten ,Potter or both and we still need to find some outside backs
 
@innsaneink said:
Someone was's arguing before we could get 2000 people to put up $2000 each to save Balmain…..yet we see only 100 bother to turn up to the meeting

Maybe each of them was going to kick in $40 k of loose change Ink :laughing:
 
I am thinking that the NRL will certainly be looking at relocation of the Wests Tigers in the long term.

I can't see a short term solution to our financial situation. In the medium term I believe that the independent directors will be doing a lot of psychological preparing of our members.

The NRL know that there are too many Sydney teams so it is logical that relocation will be in their planning.

The AFL make relocations work (South Melbourne to Sydney & Fitzroy to Brisbane) so I am confident that the NRL will try and copy those models.

We haven't got much more than 10,000 members so it won't worry the NRL too much anyway. It's a ready made solution to expanding the geography of NRL-dom and keeping the TV masters happy.

Sorry Happy but I don't see the Tigers being relocated to Central Qld.

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@cqtiger said:
I am thinking that the NRL will certainly be looking at relocation of the Wests Tigers in the long term.

I can't see a short term solution to our financial situation. In the medium term I believe that the independent directors will be doing a lot of psychological preparing of our members.

The NRL know that there are too many Sydney teams so it is logical that relocation will be in their planning.

The AFL make relocations work (South Melbourne to Sydney & Fitzroy to Brisbane) so I am confident that the NRL will try and copy those models.

We haven't got much more than 10,000 members so it won't worry the NRL too much anyway. It's a ready made solution to expanding the geography of NRL-dom and keeping the TV masters happy.

Sorry Happy but I don't see the Tigers being relocated to Central Qld.

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Relocating the Weststigers is on the NRL agenda ,well considering that the Tigers are rated in the top 3 supported clubs in the Sydney basin yep that makes a lot of sense.The NRL that is struggling to gain more support will just kill that type of support in Sydney. Forget about the 10 k members when this club FINALLY gets its act together and stops dividing the supporter base you will be looking at the Souths memberships. For what ever reason the NRL is not like the AFL relocating does not work it has been tried and failed on more than one occasion.The Westigers are one of the Jewels that the NRL have .The TV executives would have many sleepless night if the Tigers we not going to be in Sydney as they consistently rate the best of all clubs ,relocating would put paid to that little jem.
 
@happy tiger said:
Top 3 supporters

Bottom of the memberships

I see a problem

I honestly believe our memberships are down due to Marshall going !
A lot of supporters and kids idolised him …

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For what ever reason the NRL is not like the AFL relocating does not work it has been tried and failed on more than one occasion.

Exactly. Don't know why, but AFL fans are far more tribal than NRL fans. Alienating a large proportion of wests tigers fans by moving them out of the Sydney basin is not really an option.

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@happy tiger said:
Top 3 supporters

Bottom of the memberships

I see a problem

Hopefully a problem which will be resolved with the implementation of the new board and more consistent results over the next 3-5 years. If we can get those 2 issues solved then i seriously think we can become a force both on and off the field in the forseeable future..

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People continuously ignore the fact that Wests and Balmain merging made the WT's exempt from ever having to relocate. We've made our sacrifice, time for another club to make theirs.
 
@Snake said:
@cqtiger said:
I am thinking that the NRL will certainly be looking at relocation of the Wests Tigers in the long term.

I can't see a short term solution to our financial situation. In the medium term I believe that the independent directors will be doing a lot of psychological preparing of our members.

The NRL know that there are too many Sydney teams so it is logical that relocation will be in their planning.

The AFL make relocations work (South Melbourne to Sydney & Fitzroy to Brisbane) so I am confident that the NRL will try and copy those models.

We haven't got much more than 10,000 members so it won't worry the NRL too much anyway. It's a ready made solution to expanding the geography of NRL-dom and keeping the TV masters happy.

Sorry Happy but I don't see the Tigers being relocated to Central Qld.

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Relocating the Weststigers is on the NRL agenda ,well considering that the Tigers are rated in the top 3 supported clubs in the Sydney basin yep that makes a lot of sense.The NRL that is struggling to gain more support will just kill that type of support in Sydney. Forget about the 10 k members when this club FINALLY gets its act together and stops dividing the supporter base you will be looking at the Souths memberships. For what ever reason the NRL is not like the AFL relocating does not work it has been tried and failed on more than one occasion.The Westigers are one of the Jewels that the NRL have .The TV executives would have many sleepless night if the Tigers we not going to be in Sydney as they consistently rate the best of all clubs ,relocating would put paid to that little jem.

These are the exact same comments that were plastered all over the South Melbourne and Fitzroys all those years ago.

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i dont know much about the balmain area, but to me it sounds like the mayor is the antithesis of what the club needs at the moment.

in regard to the balmain area (as i say, i am ignorant…) would it really be a bad thing for the club as a single entity to base itself out west and gradually have the balmain junior area dissipate and dispersed to other (nearby) sydney clubs?

not meaning to upset people, and i support the tigers coming from 18 or so years of being a balmain fan, but is it a reasonable idea to do this? i really think the duality of "home base" is counter productive to the progression of the club and hard decisions will need to be made. people will be upset, but is letting the balmain geographical area go really a bad thing for the club's long term future?
 
@turnstyle said:
i dont know much about the balmain area, but to me it sounds like the mayor is the antithesis of what the club needs at the moment.

in regard to the balmain area (as i say, i am ignorant…) would it really be a bad thing for the club as a single entity to base itself out west and gradually have the balmain junior area dissipate and dispersed to other (nearby) sydney clubs?

not meaning to upset people, and i support the tigers coming from 18 or so years of being a balmain fan, but is it a reasonable idea to do this? i really think the duality of "home base" is counter productive to the progression of the club and hard decisions will need to be made. people will be upset, but is letting the balmain geographical area go really a bad thing for the club's long term future?

I'm not sure about letting the area go, but as a former Balmain supporter myself, there is no doubt whatsoever the club should be based out Campbelltown. IMO any development by Wests Tigers themselves or from government should be on the stadium there and training facilities

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