NRL Finals Week 1 *live Discussion*

BRONCOS UPDATE: Brisbane hierarchy have confirmed several senior players broke camp to play pokies and have launched an investigation. Broncos will release a statement shortly. Players left the team hotel without the knowledge of coach Anthony Seibold

https://twitter.com/badel_cmail/status/1173807389331472384?s=19

🎰😂😂
 
@WT2K said in [NRL Finals Week 1 \*live Discussion\*](/post/1063914) said:
BRONCOS UPDATE: Brisbane hierarchy have confirmed several senior players broke camp to play pokies and have launched an investigation. Broncos will release a statement shortly. Players left the team hotel without the knowledge of coach Anthony Seibold

https://twitter.com/badel_cmail/status/1173807389331472384?s=19

🎰😂😂

will be swept under the carpet like the Lockyer incident
 
@rustycage said in [NRL Finals Week 1 \*live Discussion\*](/post/1063906) said:
Friday night games on a consistent basis, and a whole host of other benefits.

What are the other benefits they get? Cowboys request and get Saturday nights on a consistent basis. In the 2000s Tigers got lots of Friday night games, not because we were doing well, but because we rated and games were always see-saw affairs.

If they add another Brisbane team, there will almost certainly be a Friday night game in Brisbane every week. This is not about Broncos, it's about the popularity of League in Brisbane where they can basically guarantee a 30K crowd every Friday. In fact Broncos 2019 home crowd advantage is 10K more than the second-best club (Parra), despite the poor season.

Broncos don't get Friday night matches because NRL want to increase QLD marketing, Broncos get Friday night matches because the big crowds are already there. Broncos haven't won a GF since 2006 and are 6 W 9 L in the last 10 seasons of finals games, yet they still pull large crowds.

So yeah, crowds tend to drop when teams lose, of course, but half of all teams win every week, so wherever Broncos are losing, other clubs are winning. It therefore stands to reason that some clubs are experiencing crowd increases, even if not Broncos. E.g. Parramatta's average crowd is up 8K compared to 2018 and is their second-highest ever, after 1986.

The NRL-wide average crowd figures don't even correlate with Broncos successful seasons, so NRL don't necessarily do better on gates or viewership if QLD clubs do well. The NRL season with the highest ever average crowd is 2010, when neither Broncos nor Cowboys even appeared in the finals (the Titans did for 1 W 1 L).

I think you've got it all backwards. Brisbane is already a League powerhouse city, they don't need special NRL treatment to maintain crowd figures or interest. If there was truly an agenda it would be NRL expansion in Melbourne, New Zealand or Perth, where there are large population that may potentially be converted. Storm, Warriors and a new Perth team would be the team getting special treatment, preferential games, refereeing bias.
 
@4jtigers said in [NRL Finals Week 1 \*live Discussion\*](/post/1063916) said:
@WT2K said in [NRL Finals Week 1 \*live Discussion\*](/post/1063914) said:
BRONCOS UPDATE: Brisbane hierarchy have confirmed several senior players broke camp to play pokies and have launched an investigation. Broncos will release a statement shortly. Players left the team hotel without the knowledge of coach Anthony Seibold

https://twitter.com/badel_cmail/status/1173807389331472384?s=19

???

will be swept under the carpet like the Lockyer incident

Jesus, they didn't play pokies did they? Tear up their contracts!
 
@4jtigers said in [NRL Finals Week 1 \*live Discussion\*](/post/1063916) said:
@WT2K said in [NRL Finals Week 1 \*live Discussion\*](/post/1063914) said:
BRONCOS UPDATE: Brisbane hierarchy have confirmed several senior players broke camp to play pokies and have launched an investigation. Broncos will release a statement shortly. Players left the team hotel without the knowledge of coach Anthony Seibold

https://twitter.com/badel_cmail/status/1173807389331472384?s=19

???

will be swept under the carpet like the Lockyer incident


Did they win ( on the pokies) ?
?
 
@hobbo1 said in [NRL Finals Week 1 \*live Discussion\*](/post/1063920) said:
@4jtigers said in [NRL Finals Week 1 \*live Discussion\*](/post/1063916) said:
@WT2K said in [NRL Finals Week 1 \*live Discussion\*](/post/1063914) said:
BRONCOS UPDATE: Brisbane hierarchy have confirmed several senior players broke camp to play pokies and have launched an investigation. Broncos will release a statement shortly. Players left the team hotel without the knowledge of coach Anthony Seibold

https://twitter.com/badel_cmail/status/1173807389331472384?s=19

???

will be swept under the carpet like the Lockyer incident


Did they win ( on the pokies) ?
?

It is mad monday... probably started playing strip poker with the doggies ?
 
@jirskyr said in [NRL Finals Week 1 \*live Discussion\*](/post/1063919) said:
@4jtigers said in [NRL Finals Week 1 \*live Discussion\*](/post/1063916) said:
@WT2K said in [NRL Finals Week 1 \*live Discussion\*](/post/1063914) said:
BRONCOS UPDATE: Brisbane hierarchy have confirmed several senior players broke camp to play pokies and have launched an investigation. Broncos will release a statement shortly. Players left the team hotel without the knowledge of coach Anthony Seibold

https://twitter.com/badel_cmail/status/1173807389331472384?s=19

???

will be swept under the carpet like the Lockyer incident

Jesus, they didn't play pokies did they? Tear up their contracts!

I am sure they did - probably won too lol - so breaking rules is ok as long as they win hey :wink:
 
@jirskyr said in [NRL Finals Week 1 \*live Discussion\*](/post/1063919) said:
@4jtigers said in [NRL Finals Week 1 \*live Discussion\*](/post/1063916) said:
@WT2K said in [NRL Finals Week 1 \*live Discussion\*](/post/1063914) said:
BRONCOS UPDATE: Brisbane hierarchy have confirmed several senior players broke camp to play pokies and have launched an investigation. Broncos will release a statement shortly. Players left the team hotel without the knowledge of coach Anthony Seibold

https://twitter.com/badel_cmail/status/1173807389331472384?s=19

???

will be swept under the carpet like the Lockyer incident

Jesus, they didn't play pokies did they? Tear up their contracts!

Not about pokies.... It's about breaking camp, not informing the coach, some in the team doing the right thing others obviously breaking team protocol... We saw the result on sunday
 
@cktiger said in [NRL Finals Week 1 \*live Discussion\*](/post/1063801) said:
@jirskyr said in [NRL Finals Week 1 \*live Discussion\*](/post/1063570) said:
Hey by the way can I revisit the "penalty Broncos" tilt that some folks were promoting last week? This whole idea that the NRL is hell-bent on seeing the Broncos deep into the finals.

Oddly enough, this pro-Broncos-bias from upper-management, enabled by corrupt officials, has seen the Broncos sneak into the finals and be destroyed in two consecutive campaigns.

So for all that effort, they get 1 extra match with Brisbane; in 2019 they weren't even the home side.

What an amazing conspiracy they are wielding. Or, is the NRL so incapable and incompetent that they can't even do corruption properly?

You can lead a horse to water but you you can't make it drink.:laughing:


Hahaha, he was late to the party and didn’t post anything like that at the time it was relevant... the last two seasons Brisbane took our place against whoever we would’ve been VSing had they not been awarded a fair dinkum ‘majority’ of contentious calls - literally 50/50’s and small calls cannot save you from a 58 point drubbing.

I don’t see anybody say NRL needs Brisbane to actually win finals series??? It is definitely a marketing ploy and effective revenue. Did not see anybody say otherwise. Getting them in YES, most definitely and you’re a Neolithic numbskull if you think otherwise. HOW would they have made it to 8th position last year without *direct* interference on that result... I.e, we should’ve been there. The head of operations came out and actually apologised to us for one of the worst decisions of all time and relegated Klein to the Bunker for the next Rd at least. When has that ever happened in a situation where the Broncos were on the wrong end of such a call, and actually MISSED the finals?

Again, the burden of proof would be on Jirskyr here not to rattle off suggestions that he thinks disproves what we all believe; rather he must clearly provide examples that prove any kind of factual evidence to the contrary of Donkey Stuff-ups we have literally described and posted documents, photos, articles about... there’s only so many times he can throw the bait out there.

Obviously if I was wearing a tin-foil hat and believed it was a fully concerted effort, every game, for 80 minutes to get them into the eight then I’d have major onus to prove that.

I’m simply saying that whistleblowers and the people who control the media releases (and apparently those in charge of handing out punishments) on mass within the game are conditioned not to be surprised by their seemingly genuine ability to always sneak into the 8 even though they’ve not been a truly great team since 2008. It always seems like bias to you except for a wide majority of us it just feels like Todd covering his arse to stay in a job, wouldn’t you regularly turn a blind eye whenever your hands were tied. Especially if the game/job is trending toward redundancy.

I’ve never said it was a specific person or part of the NRL CULTURE itself to bless the Brisbane Broncos, yet look at the differences in recent handling of both clubs’ respectively well documented financial stuff-ups where apparently they could only prove poor old Pascoe was a cheat. It runs very deep, and whether it’s deliberate or innocuous bias- it exists.

Talk about a fall guy lmao (even though he did the wrong thing technically) but that right there is a case of chalk and cheese.

So Jirskyr, directly speaking to you now - how about *you* please show us where there is statistical proof that the problems in Rugby League currently **don’t** stem from a few ‘favoured’ teams...?

Funny thing is I think we would’ve had a real chance against Parra, so am just disappointed that our boys didn’t turn up again when they needed to.

Understand that your post and excessive attempts to prove your point of view (which usually go unnoticed, no clue why?) is probably reflective of the disappointment and frustration that all lifetime Tigers supporters face around this time of year!

Don’t cut sick though, we will be even closer next year...

Also, it’s not to say we’re so bad as a club we couldn’t compete rather that it comes to a point where u just can’t beat the referee, his shadow and the conveniently under-utilised ‘bunker’ we keep hearing is bloody state of the art !

Parra thankfully didn’t need to do all of the above due to the Broncos being so crap - so it totally makes your point a fruitless one. Anyway, I really couldn’t give a toss because I love conversing and aggressively debating things 🙂, hope that you can accept this post with the sincerity that I treat others, and your opinions; no matter how strongly I disagree
 
Well the reporting in the SMH and nrl.com states the players didn't actually break any protocol - they aren't confined to the hotel and nobody missed any session including team breakfast at 7am.

Nobody was reported drinking. Bit of a beat up if you ask me. If a bloke can't go down to the pub for a look around or wander about town for a while before a game, I'm not sure what it is we are expecting of professional footballers. Apparently not one of them outside the hotel beyond midnight.

They could have been in the 7-eleven having a slurpee for the same impact.

Yeah they got belted but if you can trace that result back to a bit of light entertainment the night before a match, I'd be highly surprised.
 
The tweet above says they 'broke camp without knowledge of the coach'... I don't read multiple.articles on th same topic

Im sure the Broncos are very generous to their players but if you think splitting into groups and breaking team rules is cool the night before a final then good for you
 
It's out of the ordinary according to Locky.... I didn't think.it was the norm..

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/teams/broncos/nrl-2019-brisbane-broncos-sydney-pub-pokies-darren-lockyer-wally-lewis-reaction/news-story/acfdc01f3834259030f7eed28e3c81d2
 
@WT2K said in [NRL Finals Week 1 \*live Discussion\*](/post/1064006) said:
JWH found guilty. Will miss prelim final

Sydney Roosters record with Jared Waerea-Hargreaves
Played 212
Won 131
Drew 1
Lost 80
Win % 61.79%

Without
Played 42
Won 19
Lost 23
Win % 45.24%

https://twitter.com/AndrewRLP/status/1173901106167992320?s=19
 
@innsaneink said in [NRL Finals Week 1 \*live Discussion\*](/post/1063988) said:
The tweet above says they ‘broke camp without knowledge of the coach’… I don’t read multiple.articles on th same topic
Im sure the Broncos are very generous to their players but if you think splitting into groups and breaking team rules is cool the night before a final then good for you

Right, well I'm telling you I did read multiple articles on the topic and the official statement from the Broncos is the players did not break team rules. Perhaps they didn't exercise the world's best judgement, even insofar as how it *looks* to the general public rather than any actual poor behaviour.

I read the Fox article you linked, you are doing some Telegraph-style misreporting there? Locky doesn't say "it's out of the ordinary", he said it was disappointing and he thinks it doesn't set a good example. Wally Lewis does say it's unusual preparation - for him, because he apparently "went to bed at 10:30 at the absolute latest". Well the Broncos said all players except Fifita left by 11, so they've shaded early-bird Wally by about half an hour.

Also with due respect to Wally, he retired 27 years ago, what was normal for 1991 isn't really pertinent now.
 
@WT2K said in [NRL Finals Week 1 \*live Discussion\*](/post/1064006) said:
JWH found guilty. Will miss prelim final


A week? He should have got a commendation! He tripped up a Grubbitoh, should be fair game.
 
@jirskyr said in [NRL Finals Week 1 \*live Discussion\*](/post/1064037) said:
@innsaneink said in [NRL Finals Week 1 \*live Discussion\*](/post/1063988) said:
The tweet above says they ‘broke camp without knowledge of the coach’… I don’t read multiple.articles on th same topic
Im sure the Broncos are very generous to their players but if you think splitting into groups and breaking team rules is cool the night before a final then good for you

Right, well I'm telling you I did read multiple articles on the topic and the official statement from the Broncos is the players did not break team rules. Perhaps they didn't exercise the world's best judgement, even insofar as how it *looks* to the general public rather than any actual poor behaviour.

I read the Fox article you linked, you are doing some Telegraph-style misreporting there? Locky doesn't say "it's out of the ordinary", he said it was disappointing and he thinks it doesn't set a good example. Wally Lewis does say it's unusual preparation - for him, because he apparently "went to bed at 10:30 at the absolute latest". Well the Broncos said all players except Fifita left by 11, so they've shaded early-bird Wally by about half an hour.

Also with due respect to Wally, he retired 27 years ago, what was normal for 1991 isn't really pertinent now.

Wow!
Really?
My apologies, wally said its inappropriate and "extraordinary".... Not 'out of the ordinary' as I was trying to twist it... You're too good, you got me.
Yeh, two of the all time greats are out of touch and should be dismissed. Silly old fossils
 
@innsaneink said in [NRL Finals Week 1 \*live Discussion\*](/post/1064084) said:
Wow!
Really?
My apologies, wally said its inappropriate and “extraordinary”… Not ‘out of the ordinary’ as I was trying to twist it… You’re too good, you got me.
Yeh, two of the all time greats are out of touch and should be dismissed. Silly old fossils

Yeah they are out of touch. Who cares, in respect to players in 2019, what Wally Lewis did when he played 3 decades ago? It's like getting comments from Blocker or Tommy. Unless you are actually behind the closed doors, you are just a sideline commentator like everyone else.

A bunch of rent-a-quotes; media beat-up basically for the purpose of sinking the boot into the Broncos, and I don't even like Broncos, but imagine it was Wests Tigers and you had Backdoor Benny and Tommy saying "it's not acceptable".

The point is you made several comments about players breaking team rules. Literally, they did not, confirmed by the club. You linked to an article and said "See, Locky said it's out of the ordinary". Well Locky didn't say that, and Wally said being out wouldn't be normal for himself, when he was a player. Neither said anything about what's actually "normal" now for the current Broncos team, nor the club rules set since they were players.

Imagine getting busted for popping outside and playing a bit of pokies when you are travelling interstate, what a joke. Maybe it's how some of these fellows unwind. And almost to a man back in hotel by 11pm.

Actually I hope they put noise detectors in the rooms to ensure players were actually asleep by 11pm, because sleep is very important, and to ensure they weren't having pillow fights or up until 1am playing FIFA.
 
Meh ..don't really care if they went out..

what would is they basically gave up during the game...as a fan ..that is the worst thing you can see your team do..
 
Ugh, im gonna need a long soak in santezier after the season is done... having to lower myself to support slimers and scum...... damn it tigers!
 
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