NRL Simply the Best 2020..

[hobbo1]

If whinging about an ad is the worst thing to happen to you today, then congratulations, you lead a charmed life.

Rough day mate?

 

[weststigers]

Did not think we needed LM standing, looking out with an aboriginal flag draped over him.

This is a football ad, not a political statement - one day they will get it right.

Cam as a kid ....didn't need it.

It’s his flag representing his people. Bet you wouldn’t have an issue if Liddle was there draped in the Australian flag.

Wouldn't have a problem if it was an ad for the Indigenous game... but it's not.
Didn't notice Alex Twal with the Lebanese flag did you... or all the Polys with their flags?

No I didn’t, but I wouldn’t have minded if they did.

Don’t bother arguing with the boomers. They’re upset over a flag the poor things. Apparently people aren’t allowed to be proud of their culture.

I don't think it's a "boomer" thing. The fact it has people arguing about these issues shows that it's too political in the first place.

In fairness, I can't see the relevance of someones sexual preference or culture to the talent they have in the game. Can't we watch the spectacle rather than have politics shoved down our throat all the time...I just think people want a place they can go to get away from all the different opinions and just be brought together by something they have in common - the great game of Rugby League.

I'm not having a shot at you...it's an overall observation. I've just quoted your post for relevance.


By your logic, Falou and his comments have no place considering the arguments that he causes. Be consistent.

Correct...Folau should not be in any NRL ad spouting his views...


Great sidestep, but you still come up short. You said the fact it has people arguing shows it’s too political. So do his comments, but you commend them and tell people to get over it. If you don’t want politics in sport, then it goes for all forms of politics. Not just what upsets you personally.

There is a key difference. Folau is not on an NRL sanctioned advertisement.

Folau should be able to voice his opinions, but shouldn't use the NRL as a platform which he doesn't. Briginshaw probably has nothing to do with this either. It's the NRL...

This is so far from how I've presented my views before.

If Briginshaw wanted to go out and spread the LGBT word, I would expect that the NRL stayed out of that too. Just like I expect the NRL stays out of Folau's views.

This is not the point myself and others are making...

There's no "gotcha" moment here GNR...nothing to see here mate.

 

[hobbo1]



Who raised the sissy generation?

Foxtel and grandparents

We are / were too busy drinking and making mega bucks


? that cracked me up

Older people are still sooks but

Gen X mate ....???

 

[Geo]

"The NRL's revived Tina Turner ad is a bland, politically correct gesture from an organisation losing touch with the game’s fans. It's an exercise in box-ticking that totally misses the point.

Paul Kent goes WHACK http://bit.ly/2Ic7yMD

 

[Goldust]



Who raised the sissy generation?

Foxtel and grandparents

We are / were too busy drinking and making mega bucks


? that cracked me up

Older people are still sooks but

Gen X mate ....???

Not sure what I am,born 91
Just a child of Mother Nature ?✌??

 

[tigerap]

2020 version is a big thumbs down from me

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

If whinging about an ad is the worst thing to happen to you today, then congratulations, you lead a charmed life.

Rough day mate?

Everyday is rough haha.

 

[twentyforty]

I can understand why some may be confused, and struggle to understand what’s at play here. The NRL is simply trying to tap into divisive, tribal politics after seeing the success of the global communist movement. It’s often said, there are two highly motivational primeval emotions, love and hate. These days asking someone to love you because you’re good is no where near as powerful as saying hate the other guy because he is evil. Super man needs a penguin otherwise there’s no story. The activists need an evil tribe, because without an enemy there’s no need for activism.
The question being asked by that ad is “which tribe are you on?”
I really do feel for people who get caught up in all this nonsense. Dane Gagai was settled on one tribe until another tribe emerged as the evil side to which he also had a connection. Forcing him to withdraw.

 

[Spud_Murphy]

Did not think we needed LM standing, looking out with an aboriginal flag draped over him.

This is a football ad, not a political statement - one day they will get it right.

Cam as a kid ....didn't need it.

It’s his flag representing his people. Bet you wouldn’t have an issue if Liddle was there draped in the Australian flag.

Wouldn't have a problem if it was an ad for the Indigenous game... but it's not.
Didn't notice Alex Twal with the Lebanese flag did you... or all the Polys with their flags?

No I didn’t, but I wouldn’t have minded if they did.

Don’t bother arguing with the boomers. They’re upset over a flag the poor things. Apparently people aren’t allowed to be proud of their culture.

I don't think it's a "boomer" thing. The fact it has people arguing about these issues shows that it's too political in the first place.

In fairness, I can't see the relevance of someones sexual preference or culture to the talent they have in the game. Can't we watch the spectacle rather than have politics shoved down our throat all the time...I just think people want a place they can go to get away from all the different opinions and just be brought together by something they have in common - the great game of Rugby League.

I'm not having a shot at you...it's an overall observation. I've just quoted your post for relevance.

It’s definitely a boomer thing. How is showing Latrell mitchell (an NRL player) holding an indigenous flag (a massive part of the NRL) or the two NRL PLAYERS kissing political at all. These were big moments from last years game and will be a big part of this years game, the NRL promoting the fact that EVERYONE can enjoy the game is far from a ‘political point’.

People shouldn’t be so upset over an advertisement. End of the day everything in it was relevant to the NRL. Funny how the generation that seem to think everyone else are sensitive and snowflakes can’t even handle a flag in an ad.

I guess we just never had it rammed down our throats at school, so we aren't as brainwashed by it all.

**If you think kissing a woman on TV is a "big moment" in rugby league, then you should go and watch a few more games. Honestly, this would be at the bottom of the pile of great things in Rugby League.**

Agree I think this image only serves to diminish the women’s game. Disrespectful and unnecessary, how about showing some footage of them actually playing the game or celebrating a try rather than highlighting 2 women having a pash just so Toddy and his cronies can have an ogle.

 

[dazza65]

I can understand why some may be confused, and struggle to understand what’s at play here. The NRL is simply trying to tap into divisive, tribal politics after seeing the success of the global communist movement. It’s often said, there are two highly motivational primeval emotions, love and hate. These days asking someone to love you because you’re good is no where near as powerful as saying hate the other guy because he is evil. Super man needs a penguin otherwise there’s no story. The activists need an evil tribe, because without an enemy there’s no need for activism.
The question being asked by that ad is “which tribe are you on?”
I really do feel for people who get caught up in all this nonsense. Dane Gagai was settled on one tribe until another tribe emerged as the evil side to which he also had a connection. Forcing him to withdraw.

mmm yeah ok.
me thinks you give them too much credit....

 

[JD Tiger]

I can understand why some may be confused, and struggle to understand what’s at play here. The NRL is simply trying to tap into divisive, tribal politics after seeing the success of the global communist movement. It’s often said, there are two highly motivational primeval emotions, love and hate. These days asking someone to love you because you’re good is no where near as powerful as saying hate the other guy because he is evil. Super man needs a penguin otherwise there’s no story. The activists need an evil tribe, because without an enemy there’s no need for activism.
The question being asked by that ad is “which tribe are you on?”
I really do feel for people who get caught up in all this nonsense. Dane Gagai was settled on one tribe until another tribe emerged as the evil side to which he also had a connection. Forcing him to withdraw.

If they're trying to tap into tribalism, then why not show the contest within the game? They was barely any (if any) footage of a player or a team getting over the top of another. There was the grand finalists holding trophies, some great GF moments, some kids woth captions of them being current first grade footballers.

I think as some others have said, it shows the mindset of the current NRL administration - which is to address their perception of popular PC opinion.

Mate, they aren't smart enough to be in touch with global trends/occurrences/movements.

 

[hobbo1]



Who raised the sissy generation?

Foxtel and grandparents

We are / were too busy drinking and making mega bucks


? that cracked me up

Older people are still sooks but

Gen X mate ....???

Not sure what I am,born 91
Just a child of Mother Nature ?✌??

Next generation
Gen Y

Soft ?

 

[gallagher]

Well it git purple talking about the NRL. It ticked that box Paul Kent.

 

[Goldust]



Who raised the sissy generation?

Foxtel and grandparents

We are / were too busy drinking and making mega bucks


? that cracked me up

Older people are still sooks but

Gen X mate ....???

Not sure what I am,born 91
Just a child of Mother Nature ?✌??

Next generation
Gen Y

Soft ?

Spewing

 

[NT_Tiger]


Does that include Nofo and Rowdy? How sad.

Lawrence and nofo are most likely your generation...avo on toast and all that crap

Soft

Avocado is the Aztec word for testicle. Couldn’t be any more masculine than that.

Testicles on toast? Sounds like a feminist war cry.

 

[jirskyr]

In fairness, I can’t see the relevance of someones sexual preference or culture to the talent they have in the game. Can’t we watch the spectacle rather than have politics shoved down our throat all the time…I just think people want a place they can go to get away from all the different opinions and just be brought together by something they have in common - the great game of Rugby League.

Honestly I think you've totally missed the point.

The NRL are not really making season 2020 ads to cater to the average white male of their core demographic. Nobody on here and nobody reading the back pages of the SMH or DT, or logged into the NRL website, fails to be aware that there is a NRL 2020 season coming up soon, nor that it involves footballers tackling each other. The NRL does not need to advertise to its core market, but it does show little snippets of supporter bases, some Tigers on the hill at LO etc. Just little snippets to whet the appetite of the existing supporter.

No, the NRL ads are primarily to appeal to the non-core rugby league followers - women, minorities, immigrants, children. The people who don't really follow NRL, who wouldn't know that the new season is starting. The ads are intentionally showing diversity and emphasising inclusiveness and rights of minorities - they are appealing to those who don't feel part of the "average" rugby league supporter base. Yeah it might be a bit heavy-handed in that regards, but there are plenty of morons out there and sometimes it doesn't pay to be subtle or clever.

If you want an ad about just big boofheads tackling each other and doing sit-ups, then transport yourself back to the 1980s and watch those old ads.

And I think you are also hugely misguided to think that the NRL is not and should never be politicised. There is literally no large organisation in this country that doesn't have some form of politicisation, whether it's because they are publicly-owned, dealing with shareholders or trying to appear to advertisers. The motive that has the NRL putting female footballers and Aboriginals front and centre in ads is the same motive that has the Rugby Union banning Izzy Folau, or AFL banning racist fans, or cricket suspending ball tamperers - it's all about maintaining the reputation of your brand. It's the same motive that had the NRL hiring Macklemore, or starting women's football, or publicly supporting same-sex marriage, or initiating women's round or running the All Stars game.

Do you think the NRL hosts the All-Stars game for some altruistic rationale, or some power-broker at Foxtel demands it, or because it pulls huge audiences? Hell no, it's 100% about recognition of a small but core contingent of the NRL's workforce (~12% indigenous), appealing to future indigenous juniors and smart business for brand management.

 

[hammertime]

"The NRL's revived Tina Turner ad is a bland, politically correct gesture from an organisation losing touch with the game’s fans. It's an exercise in box-ticking that totally misses the point.

Paul Kent goes WHACK http://bit.ly/2Ic7yMD

... I'm not sure what's wrong with box-ticking Kenty. Maybe the telegraph should do a bit more of it so they can produce a decent read once in a while.

I like the ad. I think it's good to make a statement about inclusiveness and how the game/world has changed in the last 30 years, with the NRL keeping in-step with it.

It's about celebrating the growth of the game, from not just skill and professionalism (even though that is in there too), but what the game now represents to all of us. Not just a bunch of anglo-Australian blokes.

As others pointed out, my main issue too is the focus on Cameron!

 

[JD Tiger]

In fairness, I can’t see the relevance of someones sexual preference or culture to the talent they have in the game. Can’t we watch the spectacle rather than have politics shoved down our throat all the time…I just think people want a place they can go to get away from all the different opinions and just be brought together by something they have in common - the great game of Rugby League.

Honestly I think you've totally missed the point.

The NRL are not really making season 2020 ads to cater to the average white male of their core demographic. Nobody on here and nobody reading the back pages of the SMH or DT, or logged into the NRL website, fails to be aware that there is a NRL 2020 season coming up soon, nor that it involves footballers tackling each other. The NRL does not need to advertise to its core market, but it does show little snippets of supporter bases, some Tigers on the hill at LO etc. Just little snippets to whet the appetite of the existing supporter.

No, the NRL ads are primarily to appeal to the non-core rugby league followers - women, minorities, immigrants, children. The people who don't really follow NRL, who wouldn't know that the new season is starting. The ads are intentionally showing diversity and emphasising inclusiveness and rights of minorities - they are appealing to those who don't feel part of the "average" rugby league supporter base. Yeah it might be a bit heavy-handed in that regards, but there are plenty of morons out there and sometimes it doesn't pay to be subtle or clever.

If you want an ad about just big boofheads tackling each other and doing sit-ups, then transport yourself back to the 1980s and watch those old ads.

And I think you are also hugely misguided to think that the NRL is not and should never be politicised. There is literally no large organisation in this country that doesn't have some form of politicisation, whether it's because they are publicly-owned, dealing with shareholders or trying to appear to advertisers. The motive that has the NRL putting female footballers and Aboriginals front and centre in ads is the same motive that has the Rugby Union banning Izzy Folau, or AFL banning racist fans, or cricket suspending ball tamperers - it's all about maintaining the reputation of your brand. It's the same motive that had the NRL hiring Macklemore, or starting women's football, or publicly supporting same-sex marriage, or initiating women's round or running the All Stars game.

Do you think the NRL hosts the All-Stars game for some altruistic rationale, or some power-broker at Foxtel demands it, or because it pulls huge audiences? Hell no, it's 100% about recognition of a small but core contingent of the NRL's workforce (~12% indigenous), appealing to future indigenous juniors and smart business for brand management.

You raise a lot of very good points. And everything you say sounds logical. I don't know successful the NRL will be in trying to cater to this PC demographic though and lure in new fans, because as soon as new people start to take an interest they will see the blatant hypocrisies within the NRL.

Its not an equal competition. There is blatant favouritism engrained in the system, with morons like Greenburg making up the rules as he goes, leaving himself open backdoors to scuffle back in, which detracts from the whole facade they are trying to pull.

Someone said the ad was about tribalism before, which though I think featured in a very minor way, is a major component in what rugby league has been all about for 100 plus years. They need to highlight the tribalism, make it even, and watch it grow from there. Add the women game, yes, be inclusive, yes please, but focus on what the game is all about.

 

[weststigers]

In fairness, I can’t see the relevance of someones sexual preference or culture to the talent they have in the game. Can’t we watch the spectacle rather than have politics shoved down our throat all the time…I just think people want a place they can go to get away from all the different opinions and just be brought together by something they have in common - the great game of Rugby League.

Honestly I think you've totally missed the point.

The NRL are not really making season 2020 ads to cater to the average white male of their core demographic. Nobody on here and nobody reading the back pages of the SMH or DT, or logged into the NRL website, fails to be aware that there is a NRL 2020 season coming up soon, nor that it involves footballers tackling each other. The NRL does not need to advertise to its core market, but it does show little snippets of supporter bases, some Tigers on the hill at LO etc. Just little snippets to whet the appetite of the existing supporter.

No, the NRL ads are primarily to appeal to the non-core rugby league followers - women, minorities, immigrants, children. The people who don't really follow NRL, who wouldn't know that the new season is starting. The ads are intentionally showing diversity and emphasising inclusiveness and rights of minorities - they are appealing to those who don't feel part of the "average" rugby league supporter base. Yeah it might be a bit heavy-handed in that regards, but there are plenty of morons out there and sometimes it doesn't pay to be subtle or clever.

If you want an ad about just big boofheads tackling each other and doing sit-ups, then transport yourself back to the 1980s and watch those old ads.

And I think you are also hugely misguided to think that the NRL is not and should never be politicised. There is literally no large organisation in this country that doesn't have some form of politicisation, whether it's because they are publicly-owned, dealing with shareholders or trying to appear to advertisers. The motive that has the NRL putting female footballers and Aboriginals front and centre in ads is the same motive that has the Rugby Union banning Izzy Folau, or AFL banning racist fans, or cricket suspending ball tamperers - it's all about maintaining the reputation of your brand. It's the same motive that had the NRL hiring Macklemore, or starting women's football, or publicly supporting same-sex marriage, or initiating women's round or running the All Stars game.

Do you think the NRL hosts the All-Stars game for some altruistic rationale, or some power-broker at Foxtel demands it, or because it pulls huge audiences? Hell no, it's 100% about recognition of a small but core contingent of the NRL's workforce (~12% indigenous), appealing to future indigenous juniors and smart business for brand management.

I scrolled down and saw an essay...not going to read it. Sorry mate. Too long

 

[jirskyr]

>I don’t know successful the NRL will be in trying to cater to this PC demographic though and lure in new fans, because as soon as new people start to take an interest they will see the blatant hypocrisies within the NRL.
Its not an equal competition. There is blatant favouritism engrained in the system, with morons like Greenburg making up the rules as he goes, leaving himself open backdoors to scuffle back in, which detracts from the whole facade they are trying to pull.

I don't think the new or casual supporters think about that at all. And it's not a "PC demographic". They aren't trying to sell football to Aboriginal vegan lesbians. The NRL are simply trying to be on top of public sentiment. There's nothing inherently PC about showing pics of two women kissing or some fella with an aboriginal flag on his shoulders; it's just a sample of actual society. Political correctness is about avoiding exclusionary or insulting messaging, not the reverse, which in this case is an advertisement of inclusiveness.

You look at the current ad Google is running on TV, where the lady asks her Google Assistant to show her photos from her wedding day - wedding to her wife. No different to the NRL; Google aren't out there specifically to sell phones to lesbians. They are trying to appeal to society-wide sentiment.

Fundamentally, NRL came from very white very lower and middle class upbringing. Rugby League has, for a very long time, had the reputation of being for boofheaded blokes who like to drink beer and see biffo. That may actually be true, and if so, the NRL doesn't have to advertise to the beer-swilling boofheads - they are already on-side. But the NRL very certainly will want to move its brand away from that "boofhead" reputation, to be seen as an inclusive and fair code for players and supporters. It sells the brand.

Again, an ad isn't going to change your opinion of whether or not there is default favouritism in the league, or whether or not you like Greenberg.