NSW Cup Team List: Round 8 v St George

[balmain boy]

Did antbody notice Simpkin was taken off early for the second week in a row .By the way Liddle scored twice in reserve grade and reportedly man of the match.IM sure you Simkin lovers will ignore that as usual

Simpkin needs a break. His last match was very ordinary. Liddle to start for mine. You could have Simpkin on the bench.

You're kidding right? 19 year old, 3 games in. Was never expected to play 80 every week at this stage. If Joey didn't miss time his runs no one would have commented on Simpkin.

 

[Alex Seyfarth's #1 Fan]

The next game is live on Fox next Thursday, and it is the only game of rugby league on that night. Would be nice for these guys to show what they're made of. Will be a lot of people's first time seeing the Magpies play.

 

[mike]

Did antbody notice Simpkin was taken off early for the second week in a row .By the way Liddle scored twice in reserve grade and reportedly man of the match.IM sure you Simkin lovers will ignore that as usual

Simpkin needs a break. His last match was very ordinary. Liddle to start for mine. You could have Simpkin on the bench.

You're kidding right? 19 year old, 3 games in. Was never expected to play 80 every week at this stage. If Joey didn't miss time his runs no one would have commented on Simpkin.

Nope not kidding, he needs a rest. Wasn’t Joey mistiming his run, he had to accelerate to catch the forward pass Simpkin threw. His passes from dummy half were very ordinary, high, low, behind and forward. Few hit the mark. Mistimed his runs as well. He had a very poor game and should be rested for his own benefit.

 

[balmain boy]

Did antbody notice Simpkin was taken off early for the second week in a row .By the way Liddle scored twice in reserve grade and reportedly man of the match.IM sure you Simkin lovers will ignore that as usual

Simpkin needs a break. His last match was very ordinary. Liddle to start for mine. You could have Simpkin on the bench.

You're kidding right? 19 year old, 3 games in. Was never expected to play 80 every week at this stage. If Joey didn't miss time his runs no one would have commented on Simpkin.

Nope not kidding, he needs a rest. Wasn’t Joey mistiming his run, he had to accelerate to catch the forward pass Simpkin threw. His passes from dummy half were very ordinary, high, low, behind and forward. Few hit the mark. Mistimed his runs as well. He had a very poor game and should be rested for his own benefit.

Incorrect, on all counts. Joey was already standing in front of Jake by the time he was passing the ball...

Thank goodness you're not involved in running a football team.

 

[Speed2burn]

Did antbody notice Simpkin was taken off early for the second week in a row .By the way Liddle scored twice in reserve grade and reportedly man of the match.IM sure you Simkin lovers will ignore that as usual

Simpkin needs a break. His last match was very ordinary. Liddle to start for mine. You could have Simpkin on the bench.

You're kidding right? 19 year old, 3 games in. Was never expected to play 80 every week at this stage. If Joey didn't miss time his runs no one would have commented on Simpkin.

Nope not kidding, he needs a rest. Wasn’t Joey mistiming his run, he had to accelerate to catch the forward pass Simpkin threw. His passes from dummy half were very ordinary, high, low, behind and forward. Few hit the mark. Mistimed his runs as well. He had a very poor game and should be rested for his own benefit.

I’m not sure about needing a rest but he was pretty poor on Sunday I agree. But that’s ok he’s only 19 and early into his developement

From what I’ve seen based on this season so far Liddle is better, but the 2 hooker combo may also work well

 

[Toowoomba_Tiger]

How has Madden been going since the Jackson Hastings signing.

I imagine he could have either accepted the challenge or gone into his shell. I would say the club is looking for him to demand selection in first grade. Step up and call all the shots. I worry we wont get the response out of him we need if he hasnt shown it already.

Madden is pretty good tbh. Like I am confident that he'd be as good as Brooks in first grade already. He doesn't appear to be a world beater, mostly because he doesn't have a dynamic running game. But as far as game manager halves go he's pretty solid. Makes far better decisions than Brooks. He doesn't have as much X-Factor but seems to have more time, and poise. And his kicks find the grass.

Guess my question is what does Maguire need to see from him.

Probably just needs to bide his time til an opportunity in first grade arises so Maguire can see how her performs there. I am confident that should Brooks go down, Madden will go straight in for a trial by fire.


Fair enough.

Im a little worried although he is a great little organiser that he might need to come out of himself a bit more and be more dominant and vocal to really get Maguires attention.

Yeah he doesn't have the swagger/arrogance/confidence mix. But there are plenty of great halves that were more reserved like that. Darren Lockyer springs to mind.

From what I've seen of Madden this year, he has a pretty good passing game, including selection. Its very good actually. Kicking game seems adequate, although goal kicking is all over the place. Sometimes excellent, sometimes poor.
My concern is he seems hesitant to take on the line himself and with his size, not the best defender. He can control a game but really only as a general directing the plays. I'm no fan of Brooks, but atm I don't Madden is a better option. He would improve our direction and execution, but i think he'd be a target for NRL teams in defense. Still young and improving though.

 

[Guest]

How has Madden been going since the Jackson Hastings signing.

I imagine he could have either accepted the challenge or gone into his shell. I would say the club is looking for him to demand selection in first grade. Step up and call all the shots. I worry we wont get the response out of him we need if he hasnt shown it already.

Madden is pretty good tbh. Like I am confident that he'd be as good as Brooks in first grade already. He doesn't appear to be a world beater, mostly because he doesn't have a dynamic running game. But as far as game manager halves go he's pretty solid. Makes far better decisions than Brooks. He doesn't have as much X-Factor but seems to have more time, and poise. And his kicks find the grass.

Guess my question is what does Maguire need to see from him.

Probably just needs to bide his time til an opportunity in first grade arises so Maguire can see how her performs there. I am confident that should Brooks go down, Madden will go straight in for a trial by fire.


Fair enough.

Im a little worried although he is a great little organiser that he might need to come out of himself a bit more and be more dominant and vocal to really get Maguires attention.

Yeah he doesn't have the swagger/arrogance/confidence mix. But there are plenty of great halves that were more reserved like that. Darren Lockyer springs to mind.

From what I've seen of Madden this year, he has a pretty good passing game, including selection. Its very good actually. Kicking game seems adequate, although goal kicking is all over the place. Sometimes excellent, sometimes poor.
My concern is he seems hesitant to take on the line himself and with his size, not the best defender. He can control a game but really only as a general directing the plays. I'm no fan of Brooks, but atm I don't Madden is a better option. He would improve our direction and execution, but i think he'd be a target for NRL teams in defense. Still young and improving though.

I agree with this, I've seen Madden do some good things but I'm not convinced his kicking game is any better than Brooks. He can throw a great pass but I've also seen him throw a couple of hospital passes which may have earnt him a smack behind the ear after the game.

 

[mike]

Did antbody notice Simpkin was taken off early for the second week in a row .By the way Liddle scored twice in reserve grade and reportedly man of the match.IM sure you Simkin lovers will ignore that as usual

Simpkin needs a break. His last match was very ordinary. Liddle to start for mine. You could have Simpkin on the bench.

You're kidding right? 19 year old, 3 games in. Was never expected to play 80 every week at this stage. If Joey didn't miss time his runs no one would have commented on Simpkin.

Nope not kidding, he needs a rest. Wasn’t Joey mistiming his run, he had to accelerate to catch the forward pass Simpkin threw. His passes from dummy half were very ordinary, high, low, behind and forward. Few hit the mark. Mistimed his runs as well. He had a very poor game and should be rested for his own benefit.

Incorrect, on all counts. Joey was already standing in front of Jake by the time he was passing the ball...

Thank goodness you're not involved in running a football team.

Did antbody notice Simpkin was taken off early for the second week in a row .By the way Liddle scored twice in reserve grade and reportedly man of the match.IM sure you Simkin lovers will ignore that as usual

Simpkin needs a break. His last match was very ordinary. Liddle to start for mine. You could have Simpkin on the bench.

You're kidding right? 19 year old, 3 games in. Was never expected to play 80 every week at this stage. If Joey didn't miss time his runs no one would have commented on Simpkin.

Nope not kidding, he needs a rest. Wasn’t Joey mistiming his run, he had to accelerate to catch the forward pass Simpkin threw. His passes from dummy half were very ordinary, high, low, behind and forward. Few hit the mark. Mistimed his runs as well. He had a very poor game and should be rested for his own benefit.

Incorrect, on all counts. Joey was already standing in front of Jake by the time he was passing the ball...

Thank goodness you're not involved in running a football team.

Thank goodness your not, you have no idea. Take your Simpkin blinkers off, he was very ordinary.

 

[balmain boy]

Did antbody notice Simpkin was taken off early for the second week in a row .By the way Liddle scored twice in reserve grade and reportedly man of the match.IM sure you Simkin lovers will ignore that as usual

Simpkin needs a break. His last match was very ordinary. Liddle to start for mine. You could have Simpkin on the bench.

You're kidding right? 19 year old, 3 games in. Was never expected to play 80 every week at this stage. If Joey didn't miss time his runs no one would have commented on Simpkin.

Nope not kidding, he needs a rest. Wasn’t Joey mistiming his run, he had to accelerate to catch the forward pass Simpkin threw. His passes from dummy half were very ordinary, high, low, behind and forward. Few hit the mark. Mistimed his runs as well. He had a very poor game and should be rested for his own benefit.

Incorrect, on all counts. Joey was already standing in front of Jake by the time he was passing the ball...

Thank goodness you're not involved in running a football team.

Did antbody notice Simpkin was taken off early for the second week in a row .By the way Liddle scored twice in reserve grade and reportedly man of the match.IM sure you Simkin lovers will ignore that as usual

Simpkin needs a break. His last match was very ordinary. Liddle to start for mine. You could have Simpkin on the bench.

You're kidding right? 19 year old, 3 games in. Was never expected to play 80 every week at this stage. If Joey didn't miss time his runs no one would have commented on Simpkin.

Nope not kidding, he needs a rest. Wasn’t Joey mistiming his run, he had to accelerate to catch the forward pass Simpkin threw. His passes from dummy half were very ordinary, high, low, behind and forward. Few hit the mark. Mistimed his runs as well. He had a very poor game and should be rested for his own benefit.

Incorrect, on all counts. Joey was already standing in front of Jake by the time he was passing the ball...

Thank goodness you're not involved in running a football team.

Thank goodness your not, you have no idea. Take your Simpkin blinkers off, he was very ordinary.

Our team has been very ordinary all season. We've been awful. He's just doing his job.

According to your standards there's not a single hooker in the NRL with good delivery. Grant is erratic. So is Cook. And every other hooker, including Liddle.

I think they'll make a strong combo from lock and hooker and we'll see this combo for the rest of the season. Perhaps sometimes swapping who's starting and who's on the bench.

 

[mike]

Did antbody notice Simpkin was taken off early for the second week in a row .By the way Liddle scored twice in reserve grade and reportedly man of the match.IM sure you Simkin lovers will ignore that as usual

Simpkin needs a break. His last match was very ordinary. Liddle to start for mine. You could have Simpkin on the bench.

You're kidding right? 19 year old, 3 games in. Was never expected to play 80 every week at this stage. If Joey didn't miss time his runs no one would have commented on Simpkin.

Nope not kidding, he needs a rest. Wasn’t Joey mistiming his run, he had to accelerate to catch the forward pass Simpkin threw. His passes from dummy half were very ordinary, high, low, behind and forward. Few hit the mark. Mistimed his runs as well. He had a very poor game and should be rested for his own benefit.

Incorrect, on all counts. Joey was already standing in front of Jake by the time he was passing the ball...

Thank goodness you're not involved in running a football team.

Did antbody notice Simpkin was taken off early for the second week in a row .By the way Liddle scored twice in reserve grade and reportedly man of the match.IM sure you Simkin lovers will ignore that as usual

Simpkin needs a break. His last match was very ordinary. Liddle to start for mine. You could have Simpkin on the bench.

You're kidding right? 19 year old, 3 games in. Was never expected to play 80 every week at this stage. If Joey didn't miss time his runs no one would have commented on Simpkin.

Nope not kidding, he needs a rest. Wasn’t Joey mistiming his run, he had to accelerate to catch the forward pass Simpkin threw. His passes from dummy half were very ordinary, high, low, behind and forward. Few hit the mark. Mistimed his runs as well. He had a very poor game and should be rested for his own benefit.

Incorrect, on all counts. Joey was already standing in front of Jake by the time he was passing the ball...

Thank goodness you're not involved in running a football team.

Thank goodness your not, you have no idea. Take your Simpkin blinkers off, he was very ordinary.

Our team has been very ordinary all season. We've been awful. He's just doing his job.

According to your standards there's not a single hooker in the NRL with good delivery. Grant is erratic. So is Cook. And every other hooker, including Liddle.

I think they'll make a strong combo from lock and hooker and we'll see this combo for the rest of the season. Perhaps sometimes swapping who's starting and who's on the bench.

He wasn’t doing his job, he had a shocking 1st 20 minutes and was poor the rest of his time on the field. He needs a rest for his own benefit.

 

[Madge]

Agree with @mike. He isn't bagging the kid at all. Think it is just a case of quality over quantity. Don't think we'd be doing him a favour just leaving him on the field not being able to produce quality. Having Liddle on the bench is very timely and he will shine.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Did antbody notice Simpkin was taken off early for the second week in a row .By the way Liddle scored twice in reserve grade and reportedly man of the match.IM sure you Simkin lovers will ignore that as usual

Simpkin needs a break. His last match was very ordinary. Liddle to start for mine. You could have Simpkin on the bench.

You're kidding right? 19 year old, 3 games in. Was never expected to play 80 every week at this stage. If Joey didn't miss time his runs no one would have commented on Simpkin.

Nope not kidding, he needs a rest. Wasn’t Joey mistiming his run, he had to accelerate to catch the forward pass Simpkin threw. His passes from dummy half were very ordinary, high, low, behind and forward. Few hit the mark. Mistimed his runs as well. He had a very poor game and should be rested for his own benefit.

Incorrect, on all counts. Joey was already standing in front of Jake by the time he was passing the ball...

Thank goodness you're not involved in running a football team.

Yea I agree with at least 1 of the forward passes close to the line . That was ? Joey who mistimed, although I don’t think it was actually forward . The first one midfield at the scrum , was Simpkin , although I do think Joey mistimed his run as well. That one was a “everyone sux” kind of thing .
Simpkin’s service got sloppy towards the back end of the first , and just before he came off . I think the Liddle Simpkin combo if utilised correctly , should be good . I hope they kill it , so the onus is on the backs to lift , as Mbye has to stay in the team . And for obvious reasons as that should be a win for us .

 

[mike]

Agree with @mike. He isn't bagging the kid at all. Think it is just a case of quality over quantity. Don't think we'd be doing him a favour just leaving him on the field not being able to produce quality. Having Liddle on the bench is very timely and he will shine.

You got it.

 

[JC99]

Agree with @mike. He isn't bagging the kid at all. Think it is just a case of quality over quantity. Don't think we'd be doing him a favour just leaving him on the field not being able to produce quality. Having Liddle on the bench is very timely and he will shine.

Doesn't mean Jake should lose his spot over one game where he wasn't amazing. Dropping the kid might hurt his confidence and it isn't deserved - happy for him to be given breaks throughout a game, I think it's a good strategy.

Liddle should come in and do well off the bench if he utilises his running game, it's something Madge mentioned in his press conference that he was happy Jacob was running the footy more again because it's his best weapon

 

[facepalmer]

How has Madden been going since the Jackson Hastings signing.

I imagine he could have either accepted the challenge or gone into his shell. I would say the club is looking for him to demand selection in first grade. Step up and call all the shots. I worry we wont get the response out of him we need if he hasnt shown it already.

Madden is pretty good tbh. Like I am confident that he'd be as good as Brooks in first grade already. He doesn't appear to be a world beater, mostly because he doesn't have a dynamic running game. But as far as game manager halves go he's pretty solid. Makes far better decisions than Brooks. He doesn't have as much X-Factor but seems to have more time, and poise. And his kicks find the grass.

Guess my question is what does Maguire need to see from him.

Probably just needs to bide his time til an opportunity in first grade arises so Maguire can see how her performs there. I am confident that should Brooks go down, Madden will go straight in for a trial by fire.


Fair enough.

Im a little worried although he is a great little organiser that he might need to come out of himself a bit more and be more dominant and vocal to really get Maguires attention.

Yeah he doesn't have the swagger/arrogance/confidence mix. But there are plenty of great halves that were more reserved like that. Darren Lockyer springs to mind.

From what I've seen of Madden this year, he has a pretty good passing game, including selection. Its very good actually. Kicking game seems adequate, although goal kicking is all over the place. Sometimes excellent, sometimes poor.
My concern is he seems hesitant to take on the line himself and with his size, not the best defender. He can control a game but really only as a general directing the plays. I'm no fan of Brooks, but atm I don't Madden is a better option. He would improve our direction and execution, but i think he'd be a target for NRL teams in defense. Still young and improving though.

It's a fair summation. He is quite a different player to Brooks though and if his style suits the team better ... well we're not gonna know til we see I guess.

 

[mike]

Agree with @mike. He isn't bagging the kid at all. Think it is just a case of quality over quantity. Don't think we'd be doing him a favour just leaving him on the field not being able to produce quality. Having Liddle on the bench is very timely and he will shine.

Doesn't mean Jake should lose his spot over one game where he wasn't amazing. Dropping the kid might hurt his confidence and it isn't deserved - happy for him to be given breaks throughout a game, I think it's a good strategy.

Liddle should come in and do well off the bench if he utilises his running game, it's something Madge mentioned in his press conference that he was happy Jacob was running the footy more again because it's his best weapon

He’s not losing his spot, he’s being rested. You need to manage these young blokes into the NRL otherwise you will burn them out before they start.

 

[JC99]

Agree with @mike. He isn't bagging the kid at all. Think it is just a case of quality over quantity. Don't think we'd be doing him a favour just leaving him on the field not being able to produce quality. Having Liddle on the bench is very timely and he will shine.

Doesn't mean Jake should lose his spot over one game where he wasn't amazing. Dropping the kid might hurt his confidence and it isn't deserved - happy for him to be given breaks throughout a game, I think it's a good strategy.

Liddle should come in and do well off the bench if he utilises his running game, it's something Madge mentioned in his press conference that he was happy Jacob was running the footy more again because it's his best weapon

He’s not losing his spot, he’s being rested. You need to manage these young blokes into the NRL otherwise you will burn them out before they start.

Call it whatever you want, he'll see it as being dropped. I don't see other good rookies getting rested at other teams if they're playing well enough. Best way for him to adjust to NRL is by playing NRL, start him and use Liddle off the bench to manage his minutes no need to drop him, it also works better strategically.

 

[mike]

Agree with @mike. He isn't bagging the kid at all. Think it is just a case of quality over quantity. Don't think we'd be doing him a favour just leaving him on the field not being able to produce quality. Having Liddle on the bench is very timely and he will shine.

Doesn't mean Jake should lose his spot over one game where he wasn't amazing. Dropping the kid might hurt his confidence and it isn't deserved - happy for him to be given breaks throughout a game, I think it's a good strategy.

Liddle should come in and do well off the bench if he utilises his running game, it's something Madge mentioned in his press conference that he was happy Jacob was running the footy more again because it's his best weapon

He’s not losing his spot, he’s being rested. You need to manage these young blokes into the NRL otherwise you will burn them out before they start.

Call it whatever you want, **he'll see it as being dropped**. I don't see other good rookies getting rested at other teams if they're playing well enough. Best way for him to adjust to NRL is by playing NRL, start him and use Liddle off the bench to manage his minutes no need to drop him, it also works better strategically.

So you know how he thinks is now. OK.

 

[JC99]

Agree with @mike. He isn't bagging the kid at all. Think it is just a case of quality over quantity. Don't think we'd be doing him a favour just leaving him on the field not being able to produce quality. Having Liddle on the bench is very timely and he will shine.

Doesn't mean Jake should lose his spot over one game where he wasn't amazing. Dropping the kid might hurt his confidence and it isn't deserved - happy for him to be given breaks throughout a game, I think it's a good strategy.

Liddle should come in and do well off the bench if he utilises his running game, it's something Madge mentioned in his press conference that he was happy Jacob was running the footy more again because it's his best weapon

He’s not losing his spot, he’s being rested. You need to manage these young blokes into the NRL otherwise you will burn them out before they start.

Call it whatever you want, **he'll see it as being dropped**. I don't see other good rookies getting rested at other teams if they're playing well enough. Best way for him to adjust to NRL is by playing NRL, start him and use Liddle off the bench to manage his minutes no need to drop him, it also works better strategically.

So you know how he thinks is now. OK.

What do you think a player will see it as? No ones gonna be happy about getting demoted. He didn't even look fatigued when he played until close to the end of the game and then he was taken off, and I'm sure the same will happen this week. That's how you manage a rookie

 

[balmain boy]

Agree with @mike. He isn't bagging the kid at all. Think it is just a case of quality over quantity. Don't think we'd be doing him a favour just leaving him on the field not being able to produce quality. Having Liddle on the bench is very timely and he will shine.

Doesn't mean Jake should lose his spot over one game where he wasn't amazing. Dropping the kid might hurt his confidence and it isn't deserved - happy for him to be given breaks throughout a game, I think it's a good strategy.

Liddle should come in and do well off the bench if he utilises his running game, it's something Madge mentioned in his press conference that he was happy Jacob was running the footy more again because it's his best weapon

He’s not losing his spot, he’s being rested. You need to manage these young blokes into the NRL otherwise you will burn them out before they start.

Call it whatever you want, he'll see it as being dropped. I don't see other good rookies getting rested at other teams if they're playing well enough. Best way for him to adjust to NRL is by playing NRL, start him and use Liddle off the bench to manage his minutes no need to drop him, it also works better strategically.

You get it Josh.