Off-season moves show Tigers on right path

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Off-season moves show Tigers on right path: Tamou
Brad Walter
NRL.com Senior Reporter
Wed 8 Dec 2021, 07:01 AM

James Tamou believes the return of Tim Sheens, signings of Api Koroisau and Isaiah Papali’i and targeting of players by rival clubs is proof that the Wests Tigers are headed in the right direction.

Sheens, the architect of the club’s most successful period from 2003 to 2012, left in bitter circumstances a decade ago but is back as head of football performance and his involvement has coincided with a growing optimism about the Tigers.


Koroisau, a two-time premiership-winning hooker after helping South Sydney to grand final glory in 2014 and repeating the feat with Penrith this year, signed last Friday, while Papali’i rejected other interest before agreeing to join the Tigers from Parramatta.

Both will move to Concord in 2023 and while the Tigers have to wait a year for the services of Koroisau and Papali'i, their decision to sign is an endorsement of the club’s future after finishing 13th this season.

‘It gives me confidence that the club is in a great place,” Tamou, the club's 2021 captain, said as he and other representatives of the Wests Tigers Foundation handed out Christmas presents at Campbelltown Hospital on Tuesday.

“Tim brings a lot of footy knowledge, you can’t doubt that with Sheensy and some of the signings that the club has taken on - Api and Isaiah - are the best signings ever.

“The way the game has gone, and how many times a hooker touches a ball, you need a quick, decisive hooker like that to create.

“Api’s the best in the business after winning the grand final with the Panthers. He’s a great signing for us and an indicator of where this club is heading.”

The recruitment of Koroisau and Papali’i, who was widely regarded as the buy of the 2021 Telstra Premiership, continues a gradual rebuilding of the Tigers roster under Michael Maguire and the board’s decision to back him after an end-of-season review has provided stability.

The 2014 premiership-winning mentor previously coached Koroisau at the Rabbitohs, while he has had charge of Papali’i with the Kiwis, whose entire coaching staff of Maguire, Nathan Cayless and Ben Gardiner are now at the Tigers.


Maguire was largely hamstrung in his ability to recruit when he took charge in 2019 but he signed Adam Doueihi and Shawn Blore in 2020 and last season added boom rookies Stefano Utoikamanu and Daine Laurie, along with Tamou and Kiwis winger Ken Maumalo.

Former NSW Origin utility Tyrone Peachey and England internationals Jackson Hastings and Oliver Gildart are the club’s major signings for 2022, while Koroisau and Papali’i will further bolster the Tigers the year after.

However, rival clubs also have Tigers players in their sights, with speculation that Melbourne had identified Utoikamanu for a swap deal with Kiwis hooker Brandon Smith, while star halfback Luke Brooks has been linked with Newcastle.

The Tigers have ruled out any possibility of releasing either Utoikamanu or Brooks but Tamou said the fact players were being targeted was a further endorsement of the club’s recruitment strategy.

“It’s a massive wrap for how we got [Utoikamanu] from Parramatta, first of all,” Taumo said. “He’s still a kid too, and as a front rower he’s got a lot of maturing to do."

“He’s an up-and-comer and every team would love to have him but he’s ours for the moment and he was a standout for us last year."

Tamou joined Tigers Harvey Norman NSW Women's Premiership hooker Sophie Curtain and 2005 grand final winner Pat Richards at Campbelltown Hospital on Tuesday to hand out Christmas presents.

“Coming here and being able to help put some smiles on kids’ faces really puts things in perspective when you start thinking about your own life,” Taumo said.

Curtain added: "I know how tough it is for families dealing with illnesses and cancer so hopefully we can make a little bit of a difference to their lives, particularly being Christmas and after the last few years, with COVID".

Richards, whose try from a Benji Marshall flick pass in the '05 decider will forever be remembered by NRL fans, said he was excited about the return of Sheens to the club.

"Tim obviously loves this club and his role is to look after the whole organisation all the way from the grassroots and helping the talent that we have in this club.


“He brings 40-odd years of experience in rugby league, he has seen everything, he has been in so many different organisations and he knows what works," Richards said. "I think already we can see the improvements he is bringing in."
 
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@tigerwould said in [Off\-season moves show Tigers on right path](/post/1515541) said:
“It’s a massive wrap for how we got [Utoikamanu] from Parramatta, first of all,” Taumo said. “He’s still a kid too, and as a front rower he’s got a lot of maturing to do."
“He’s an up-and-comer and every team would love to have him but he’s ours for the moment and he was a standout for us last year."

Jesus. His price just went up.
Other than that, good to see Tamou really behind the team. (Though Liddle may not agree)
 
Blah blah blah. “Just killing time before I go back to the Panthers in a cushy off-field role”.
 
@tigerwould said in [Off\-season moves show Tigers on right path](/post/1515541) said:
Off-season moves show Tigers on right path: Tamou
Brad Walter
NRL.com Senior Reporter
Wed 8 Dec 2021, 07:01 AM

James Tamou believes the return of Tim Sheens, signings of Api Koroisau and Isaiah Papali’i and targeting of players by rival clubs is proof that the Wests Tigers are headed in the right direction.

Sheens, the architect of the club’s most successful period from 2003 to 2012, left in bitter circumstances a decade ago but is back as head of football performance and his involvement has coincided with a growing optimism about the Tigers.


Koroisau, a two-time premiership-winning hooker after helping South Sydney to grand final glory in 2014 and repeating the feat with Penrith this year, signed last Friday, while Papali’i rejected other interest before agreeing to join the Tigers from Parramatta.

Both will move to Concord in 2023 and while the Tigers have to wait a year for the services of Koroisau and Papali'i, their decision to sign is an endorsement of the club’s future after finishing 13th this season.

‘It gives me confidence that the club is in a great place,” Tamou, the club's 2021 captain, said as he and other representatives of the Wests Tigers Foundation handed out Christmas presents at Campbelltown Hospital on Tuesday.

“Tim brings a lot of footy knowledge, you can’t doubt that with Sheensy and some of the signings that the club has taken on - Api and Isaiah - are the best signings ever.

“The way the game has gone, and how many times a hooker touches a ball, you need a quick, decisive hooker like that to create.

“Api’s the best in the business after winning the grand final with the Panthers. He’s a great signing for us and an indicator of where this club is heading.”

The recruitment of Koroisau and Papali’i, who was widely regarded as the buy of the 2021 Telstra Premiership, continues a gradual rebuilding of the Tigers roster under Michael Maguire and the board’s decision to back him after an end-of-season review has provided stability.

The 2014 premiership-winning mentor previously coached Koroisau at the Rabbitohs, while he has had charge of Papali’i with the Kiwis, whose entire coaching staff of Maguire, Nathan Cayless and Ben Gardiner are now at the Tigers.


Maguire was largely hamstrung in his ability to recruit when he took charge in 2019 but he signed Adam Doueihi and Shawn Blore in 2020 and last season added boom rookies Stefano Utoikamanu and Daine Laurie, along with Tamou and Kiwis winger Ken Maumalo.

Former NSW Origin utility Tyrone Peachey and England internationals Jackson Hastings and Oliver Gildart are the club’s major signings for 2022, while Koroisau and Papali’i will further bolster the Tigers the year after.

However, rival clubs also have Tigers players in their sights, with speculation that Melbourne had identified Utoikamanu for a swap deal with Kiwis hooker Brandon Smith, while star halfback Luke Brooks has been linked with Newcastle.

The Tigers have ruled out any possibility of releasing either Utoikamanu or Brooks but Tamou said the fact players were being targeted was a further endorsement of the club’s recruitment strategy.

“It’s a massive wrap for how we got [Utoikamanu] from Parramatta, first of all,” Taumo said. “He’s still a kid too, and as a front rower he’s got a lot of maturing to do."

“He’s an up-and-comer and every team would love to have him but he’s ours for the moment and he was a standout for us last year."

Tamou joined Tigers Harvey Norman NSW Women's Premiership hooker Sophie Curtain and 2005 grand final winner Pat Richards at Campbelltown Hospital on Tuesday to hand out Christmas presents.

“Coming here and being able to help put some smiles on kids’ faces really puts things in perspective when you start thinking about your own life,” Taumo said.

Curtain added: "I know how tough it is for families dealing with illnesses and cancer so hopefully we can make a little bit of a difference to their lives, particularly being Christmas and after the last few years, with COVID".

Richards, whose try from a Benji Marshall flick pass in the '05 decider will forever be remembered by NRL fans, said he was excited about the return of Sheens to the club.

"Tim obviously loves this club and his role is to look after the whole organisation all the way from the grassroots and helping the talent that we have in this club.


“He brings 40-odd years of experience in rugby league, he has seen everything, he has been in so many different organisations and he knows what works," Richards said. "I think already we can see the improvements he is bringing in."


After reading this i would say there is buckley's chance of Tamou disappearing into the sunset and retiring during the off season
 
Wests Tigers training, planned public event cancelled after trainer tests positive to COVID-19
Zachary Gates WWOS Journalist By Zachary Gates
20 minutes ago

A positive COVID-19 test has rocked Wests Tigers.
 
@twentyforty said in [Off\-season moves show Tigers on right path](/post/1515821) said:
Wests Tigers training, planned public event cancelled after trainer tests positive to COVID-19
Zachary Gates WWOS Journalist By Zachary Gates
20 minutes ago

A positive COVID-19 test has rocked Wests Tigers.

ROCKED US....

damn.. we're ruined!
 
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@twentyforty said in [Off\-season moves show Tigers on right path](/post/1515821) said:
Wests Tigers training, planned public event cancelled after trainer tests positive to COVID-19
Zachary Gates WWOS Journalist By Zachary Gates
20 minutes ago

A positive COVID-19 test has rocked Wests Tigers.

ROCKED US....

damn.. we're ruined!

Can't even blame Barnaby.
 
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@djg-tiger said in [Off\-season moves show Tigers on right path](/post/1515823) said:
@twentyforty said in [Off\-season moves show Tigers on right path](/post/1515821) said:
Wests Tigers training, planned public event cancelled after trainer tests positive to COVID-19
Zachary Gates WWOS Journalist By Zachary Gates
20 minutes ago

A positive COVID-19 test has rocked Wests Tigers.

ROCKED US....

damn.. we're ruined!

Hope they don't cancel next season ![alt text](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSfDkiwk9FVcyMXvBgj9Z8ddRdazidwfqZI6A&usqp=CAU)

In all seriousness hope it's the once case and everyone stays safe, especially Mr Sheens. Also, that things resume back to normal ASAP.
 
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Tigers may have FINALLY found solution to $1.7m mystery. It could end a ‘decade of disaster’ Eamonn Tiernan from Fox Sports​

Eamonn Tiernan from Fox Sports
February 7th, 2022 8:09 am
The Wests Tigers have endured a “decade of disaster” but the club’s only premiership coach - Tim Sheens - has returned and two rugby league legends believe it marks the dawn of a new era.
Benny Elias and Mark Geyer have told foxsports.com.au why they believe 2022 will see a change in fortunes for the Tigers who have not played finals since 2011.
The return of Sheens and some shrewd recruiting has sparked a cautious degree of optimism in Tigerland heading into 2022.

There are hopes Sheens will become a football whisperer for under-pressure duo in coach Michael Maguire and halfback Luke Brooks.



Here foxsports.com.au previews the Tigers 2022 season ahead of trials against Sea Eagles and Roosters, before their season kicks off against the Storm on March 12.


THE TIM SHEENS EFFECT

Sheens famously led the Tigers to their only premiership in 2005 after bring out the best in a baby-faced Benji Marshall.
Sheens left the club in messy circumstances in 2012 but enough water passed under the bridge for the prodigal son was welcomed back late last year.
The former Kangaroos coach is now the Tigers’ head of football performance and he has total power over football operations, with Maguire reporting directly to him.
Elias, who played in two grand finals with the Balmain Tigers in the 1980s, backed the four-time premiership coach to have a profound impact on the club.
“Sheensy brings a lot more than just being the legendary coach,” Elias told foxsports.com.au.

He’s won a premiership at the Wests Tigers, he knew what it took to get to win and hold that cup up in the air, he’s a total professional.

“He brings a lot of experience and finesse which is a great tonic for Madge (Maguire) to reflect his ability as a coach and to shine.

“Sheensy’s cool, calm, collected way of approaching games, his experience in success and more importantly his experience with adversity and defeat when he was up there with the North Queensland Cowboys.

“He learnt so much up there being in a real rut with his coaching ability up there and they actually showed him the door.

“That was basically the end of Tim Sheens but we rejuvenated his career in early 2004 and he’s gone from strength to strength.”

Geyer - who played under Sheens at Penrith in the 1980s - echoed the sentiment and said the 71-year-old had already started turning the Tigers around.

“His arrival has put everyone on their toes,” Geyer said.

“He’s very inclusive Timmy, even if you’re an under-20s player or NSW Cup player, you’re considered to be one of the real cogs of the arsenal.

That’s one thing he’ll bring to Tigerland that they haven’t had in the past, Madge by all account is a very driven coach and that’s fantastic but you’ve also got to have an off button and I think they’ll complement each other beautifully.

“I just see them doing something that might be surprising this year.

“Sheensy doesn’t go to a place if he doesn’t think they’re going to be successful and I think in the back of his mind he knows this club is going to do better in recent years.”



MADGE AND HIS NEW SIDEKICKS



Maguire barely kept his job following a detailed review at the end of last season but his assistant coaches were shown the door.



Ben Gardiner and Nathan Cayless have been appointed his deputies this year and Elias said players have told him the pair have made an immediate impact.

“Madge has been under pressure for the past 18 months and rightfully so because the hard facts of life, especially in sport, is the scoreboard and the scoreboard has not been flattering,” Elias said.

said.

“All I can say is the feedback I’m getting from the camp inside and they all believe it’s an extraordinary difference to what they’ve been used to in the past few years.

“And that’s no criticism of the coaches that have left but they just seem to have a different dimension for their attitude towards attack and defence, it’s all changed and we needed to change.

“Those two assistants now have been a real breath of fresh air, they’ve changed the dimension and behaviour and with all that changes culture.


MADGE AND HIS NEW SIDEKICKS



Maguire barely kept his job following a detailed review at the end of last season but his assistant coaches were shown the door.



Ben Gardiner and Nathan Cayless have been appointed his deputies this year and Elias said players have told him the pair have made an immediate impact.

“Madge has been under pressure for the past 18 months and rightfully so because the hard facts of life, especially in sport, is the scoreboard and the scoreboard has not been flattering,” Elias said.

“All I can say is the feedback I’m getting from the camp inside and they all believe it’s an extraordinary difference to what they’ve been used to in the past few years.

“And that’s no criticism of the coaches that have left but they just seem to have a different dimension for their attitude towards attack and defence, it’s all changed and we needed to change.

“Those two assistants now have been a real breath of fresh air, they’ve changed the dimension and behaviour and with all that changes culture.

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“We need to do some extraordinary things. Out of the box things. Because we’ve had a decade of disaster.

“We need to start doing things so differently to what we were doing before because our behaviour and our responses and our performances on the field have not been impressive.”

Geyer compared Maguire to Justin Langer who controversially parted ways with Cricket Australia over the weekend.

Langer’s undoing was his intense approach with players which eventually saw him leave his post despite recent success.

“They remind me a bit of each other Justin Langer and Madge Maguire, they have the same harsh exterior but deep down they’re just puppy dogs on the inside,” Geyer said.

“If Madge takes the foot off the accelerator by 10kms and lets the car idle a bit then the players will feel that, the players feel everything the coach does.”

LUKE BROOKS



The most scrutinised player in the NRL will once again head into 2022 under the microscope, but things could be different for Brooks this year.

The halfback, who has two years left to run on his $1.7 million deal, copped plenty of criticism during club’s failed 2021 season and he also joined the top 10 list of most games played without a finals appearance.

But he won the club’s player of the year award and remains committed to the Tigers, with two years left on his deal, despite being reports he would leave the club this summer.

Elias believes the key to unlocking Brooks is to simply let him play his natural game and make mistakes.

“You’ve got to get the shackles off him and let him play what he sees and play more fluently,” he said.

You talk about infectious, Jackson (Hastings) will make him such a great competitor and I think Jackson will do most of the talking and he’ll dominate in the halves and Brooks will be a much better player for it.”

Geyer said the secret making Brooks reach his potential lays with Sheens.



“Young Brooks is always under pressure, he’s the whipping boy if they get beaten and he never gets the praise if they win,” Geyer said.

“It was only two or three years ago he was the halfback of the year in the Dally Ms, the kid can play.

I really like his style of play, he’s tough, he’s tenacious, he’s skilful but I think sometimes he’s scared to try because of fear of failure and that’s where Timmy Sheens will rub that out of him, like he did with Benji back in ‘05, he’ll say mate you express yourself, I’d rather you fail in trying than fail in doing nothing at all.

“Don’t lament on what could have been, the only time you should look back is to see how far you’ve come and he’s come a long way since he’s been a kid but he hasn’t made that next step to superstardom and he’s got it in him, he’s just got to have the confidence to go that one step further.

“Timmy Sheens is the perfect tonic for Brooks.”

JACKSON HASTINGS



Hastings played 13 NRL games for the Manly Sea Eagles and 34 for the Roosters - where he debuted in 2014 - before leaving the competition in 2018.

By his own admission, the playmaker had some maturing to do and he’s spent the past three years in the UK with Super League clubs Salford and Wigan.

Hastings won the Man of Steel award after being voted the Super League’s best player in 2019.

But the 25-year-old returned to Australia for another crack at the NRL and signed a two-year deal with the Tigers.

“I think he’s one of the biggest signings of 2022,” Elias said.

Jackson Hastings was the best player in England and he got to a grand final. His experience is second to none now and he understands what leadership and winning takes.

“He has a real winning DNA in him now, it makes him a much more positive person and I think that reflects on the team as a whole.

“He can also play 13 or 9 and he’s a great competitor.”





WHERE WILL THE TIGERS FINISH?



“The fish rots from the head, well the head is looking good,” Geyer said.

“They’ve got a great board, they’ve got an administration with Tim Sheens involved, they’ve got a coach who has won a comp before in Madge Maguire and basically this is the year of no more excuses, this is the year they’ve got to put up or shut up.

“They have to make the top eight, they’ve been ninth for the past 12 years it seems like, I think they’ve got to make the top eight for Madge to keep his job.”
 
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