Our Tactics

[Magpie_Magic]

Everyone has covered just about everything here very well and there is no doubt that the refereeing as well as some poor kicking in the second half was costly.

But on another level,I was a little dissapointed in our tactics.

We seemed to play a little too much of a grinding game (still nearly pulled it off) but in the end I feel we didn"t play to our strenghs enough.We were too flat in attack and didn"t chance our arm enough.

At the end of the day our strengh is our cutting edge attack and running teams around–--even in our half and we didn"t do enough of it.When we did we made inroads.

Thoughts.

 

[Leroy_The_Tigers_Fan]

In hindsight whatever occurred between Robbie & Dean Young, it put Robbie off his game and we rarely had the spark in attack that we usually have which resulted in Benji turning the ball over and the Milkman gaining the crucial point.

 

[Peaches]

We really struggelled to get good field possession. I think we needed to kick wider and put the ball out more often. It would have saved some more energy.

 

[magpie_mania]

in hindsight whatever occurred between robbie & dean young, it put robbie off his game and we rarely had the spark in attack that we usually have which resulted in benji turning the ball over and the milkman gaining the crucial point.

ennis has used similiar tactics in the past with undoubted success.

 

[magpie_mania]

everyone has covered just about everything here very well and there is no doubt that the refereeing as well as some poor kicking in the second half was costly.

But on another level,i was a little dissapointed in our tactics.

We seemed to play a little too much of a grinding game (still nearly pulled it off) but in the end i feel we didn"t play to our strenghs enough.we were too flat in attack and didn"t chance our arm enough.

At the end of the day our strengh is our cutting edge attack and running teams around–--even in our half and we didn"t do enough of it.when we did we made inroads.

Thoughts.

our last tackle kicking options near their line were diabolical and not of under 17 standard.

 

[innsaneink]

Everyone has covered just about everything here very well and there is no doubt that the refereeing as well as some poor kicking in the second half was costly.

But on another level,I was a little dissapointed in our tactics.

We seemed to play a little too much of a grinding game (still nearly pulled it off) but in the end I feel we didn"t play to our strenghs enough.We were too flat in attack and didn"t chance our arm enough.

At the end of the day our strengh is our cutting edge attack and running teams around–--even in our half and we didn"t do enough of it.When we did we made inroads.

Thoughts.

We need to get a bit of go forward first to get our attack really effective, Saints defense was dominating and I think stifled our attack

Our defense was highly highly dangerous and physically taxing, it was impressive though

 

[Geo]

our last tackle kicking options near their line were diabolical and not of under 17 standard.

Don't know about that MM…we only seemed to get close enough 5 times and scored twice...

Would love to know the inside 20 stats...

 

[farahfan]

i thought it was our defense that could have won (but ultimately lost us) the game

it was similar to the aggressive defense we used against manly last season when we beat them, this time we used it to put pressure on soward and stifle boyds' involvement and limit the depth of their backline in general

i thought it was effective, but our forwards were spent towards the backend of the second half

 

[alex]

I was very impressed with our long kicking game. Turned their dangerous back two around quite alot.

What I noticed was how much effort they put into their kick returns. Boyd charges back at a million miles an hour. Not only that, but for the 2-3 hit ups following, they make an easy 10-15m each time. Before you know it, they're back in our half.

Again, our support play could've been a little better and our 5th tackle options were at times unorganised.

But hey, it all came down to one damn good field goal.

 

[magpie_mania]

i was very impressed with our long kicking game. Turned their dangerous back two around quite alot.

What i noticed was how much effort they put into their kick returns. Boyd charges back at a million miles an hour. Not only that, but for the 2-3 hit ups following, they make an easy 10-15m each time. Before you know it, they're back in our half.

Again, our support play could've been a little better and our 5th tackle options were at times unorganised.

But hey, it all came down to one damn good field goal.

the one problem i have with brown is unlike boyd he doesnt charge back with any ferocity.however browns positional play leaves a jarryd hayne for dead.if we had brown gull speed then tuqiri and a fully fit tnt take the first 3 hitups wed make an easy 10-15 m each time too.

 

[alex]

When Brown had his first game at fullback against the Panthers he smashed it. He returned the ball like Karmichael Hunt used to.

It slowly died off but it's still better than how Moltzen would bring it back!

 

[hadds75]

I think Sheens interchange tactics severly cost us. We were so out on our feet it wasnt funny but he continued to play majority of the game with 15 players, with Fifita probably getting 23 minutes and Fitzhenry getting 5.

 

[Spartan117]

We did OK against the most consistent and best Defensive team of the last 2 years.

Were a young team, Could have done a bit better but that will come with experience and as the newish players become accustomed to FG.

As Coach sheens says "Your not a tru 1st Grader until you have 50 games under your belt".

We did well and We will do better next year (Barring Injury)

 

[Fraze23]

We went sideways too often and not forward. ST george marched over the top of us.

 

[Gary_Bakerloo]

Our tactics were perfect, we just couldn't get that elusive third try which is all you need to beat St. George-Ill. Despite ridiculous amounts of possession, the Dragons barely threatened to cross our line. Same old second man plays to Creagh followed by the cross field kick.

The 5-0 penalty count at the start of the game was a disgrace, especially those on the 4th tackle. The refs tried to square it up for us with two penalties, one 2m out from our corner on the first tackle and the second a penalty on the first tackle from a 20m tap. Neither gave barely any yardage or extra tackles. They were piggy backed and were still behind 12-6 at half time.

Is Shane Hayne a direct descendent of Darcy Lawler?

 

[LARDS]

Our tactics of swarming defence definatly worked in the first half of all the semis.
But we tired in the second halves.
In hindsight we probably needed a better bench rotation with more defensive workhorses (4 Liam Fultons would be nice).
Although we still were never going to beat the refs.

 

[Juro]

I thought the tactics were perfect, the execution was almost perfect too. We were finding form at the right end of the season but the bounce of the ball (either football or tennis ball) didn't go our way…

 

[magpie_mania]

our tactics were perfect, we just couldn't get that elusive third try which is all you need to beat st. George-ill. Despite ridiculous amounts of possession, the dragons barely threatened to cross our line. Same old second man plays to creagh followed by the cross field kick.

The 5-0 penalty count at the start of the game was a disgrace, especially those on the 4th tackle. The refs tried to square it up for us with two penalties, one 2m out from our corner on the first tackle and the second a penalty on the first tackle from a 20m tap. Neither gave barely any yardage or extra tackles. They were piggy backed and were still behind 12-6 at half time.

Is shane hayne a direct descendent of darcy lawler?

yes he is more buyist and red and white thru and thru than his saints loving uncle.

 

[Danos]

I think our style of play in the first half was winning the game. We were going forward up the middle, kicking deep, playing with patience etc. In the 2nd half we went away from that almost immediately.. running sideways, going 2 passes wide on the 2nd and 3rd tackle inside our own half, we brought Darius Boyd back into the game whereas we had pretty much nullified him and the first half. The Dragons weren't doing anything differently.

I don't know if it was a tactical change by Sheens or if Benji and Robbie just panicked.

 

[Magpie_Magic]

Generally I felt(maybe it was because Sainits were offside alot) that we were far to flat in attack making our fowards easy meat because Saints could compress.

Our newly found defensive and kicking games while great should not be used in front of our attacking game.
All year,I felt our blistering attack did not reach the level of say the end of last year and I thought that Sheens,perhaps with Folkes"s influence may have been grooming the team to cut back on their errors ,get their defence right and then unleash the big plays in the big games.

But except for a little in the Canberra game they just didn"t come.The strengh of our attacking game is not only that it looks good but it wears the opposition down.The grinding game is important but should not be the paramount tactic ,our attacking game should be for as long as we build the team around Farah and Marshall.
I feel we shouldv"e played tactically more like we played against the Roosters in the first 60.

I sat high up near Half way and when in our own half we never got deep.It was a signal of our intentions and it just looked like the Dragons were happy we chose to play their game.

A real top class effort ,but to beat Saints we needed to blow them off the park.I know the refeering made it difficult to do this but from Saints fans and players alike you could see a panic when we went wide.

Its what they least wanted us to do.