Packer & Reynolds

[TrueTiger]

Big deal,Josh cant get a game because the club legend keeps getting picked and produces poor performances,they won but JREY beside Brooks in previous games,the team performed better as a whole...Packer left because he doesnt know any better,look at his last few games and he knows why he was replaced...

As Madge said they didnt break any rules...

This sums it up, Grub is stuck behind Benji, god knows why, and Benji is on a farewell tour, god knows why, so he is a million to 1 to get a game, it must be so frustrating, but he should know better

It might be frustrating for Josh to watch Benji do his farewell tour but he hasn't exactly been busting the door down to get Benji's spot. He needs to suck it up for a month and bust his ring out over the offseason to show he's worthy of the 6 next year. It's inexcusable.

How can he bust the door down, he was streets ahead of Benji until he got suspended, and since then he hasn't been picked, and the team has suffered as a consequence of that. Why Madge didn't drop Benji and bring Grub in after the pathetic effort in his 250th game is a disgrace

Rubbish, Reynolds is just as bad as Benji, a complete waste of money.

That is your opinion, thats fine, I disagree, we looked a far better team with Grub at 6, our right side centre and winger were not getting jammed up for room with Benji running across field, BJ looked the best he has all year with early ball.
We nearly rolled penrith, it was our best run of the year, I still don't understand how Grub didn't go straight back in to the team, considering Benji threw in some stellar bad performances since then.

He provides absolutely nothing in attack, I will agree he gives BJ early ball but that is because he has no ability to create space for his outside men so just shovels the ball off. Most of his supporters rave about the energy he plays with, you are saying he gives early ball, I am sorry but I am looing for more from a half than that. I wish he was leaving the club along with Benji.

He has a better short kicking game than Benji and forces repeat sets, his long kicking game is good, and he leads the chase, the proof is in our performances, we performed better with Grub at 6. I am not saying he is a star, but he is better than a 35 year old Benji. But we should be chasing Burton and Staines as a package for next year, but I am talking about 2020 at the moment

The only games we managed to score in while Grub was in the team was against side with absolutely no defense, its a myth that we were better when Grub was playing. We were a bit stronger in defense but couldn't score.

Truth is that many people including the head coach dont rate Jrey,so why should he stay if he wasnt in the squad to play at all...dont use the huge amount he is paid,thats not his fault and yes I do think he is far better beside Brooks than Benji..it has been proven..

I don't know how you can say something that is subjective is proven. He should have stayed to support his team mates, to show his coach he is a team player, to show he wants to be here. All that leaving shows is that you don't care, if that is the case leave and keep walking.

Mate you have your opinion and I have mine,he isnt rated by Madge and we get Benji week in week out ,J Rey does great work off the field with the community to show his loyalty to the club but cant get a run because the legend has to play his farewell tour....
I dont care if he leaves tommorrow,he wasnt in the squad to play so what if he went home...

Yes we have our opinions, that's why it can't be proven because it is subjective.

Because he walked out on his team mates, he showed them he thought he had better things to do. It is actually worse than not showing up at all, he was there and he walked out on them, wasn't there to support them. I'd be filthy if I was his team mate.

You got that wrong cochise...JRey is only a squad member...he hasnt been a teammate since Benji had to have his farewell tour....

 

[ElleryHanley]

SEYFARTH was not even in the team, but there he was singing the team song at the end. A kid on very little who may well be cut soon.

It is a disgrace blokes on 700 000 did not even bother. Both have always been of very dubious character, but have given them the benefit of the doubt. Not anymore.

 

[hobbo1]

Big deal,Josh cant get a game because the club legend keeps getting picked and produces poor performances,they won but JREY beside Brooks in previous games,the team performed better as a whole...Packer left because he doesnt know any better,look at his last few games and he knows why he was replaced...

As Madge said they didnt break any rules...

This sums it up, Grub is stuck behind Benji, god knows why, and Benji is on a farewell tour, god knows why, so he is a million to 1 to get a game, it must be so frustrating, but he should know better

It might be frustrating for Josh to watch Benji do his farewell tour but he hasn't exactly been busting the door down to get Benji's spot. He needs to suck it up for a month and bust his ring out over the offseason to show he's worthy of the 6 next year. It's inexcusable.

How can he bust the door down, he was streets ahead of Benji until he got suspended, and since then he hasn't been picked, and the team has suffered as a consequence of that. Why Madge didn't drop Benji and bring Grub in after the pathetic effort in his 250th game is a disgrace

Rubbish, Reynolds is just as bad as Benji, a complete waste of money.

That is your opinion, thats fine, I disagree, we looked a far better team with Grub at 6, our right side centre and winger were not getting jammed up for room with Benji running across field, BJ looked the best he has all year with early ball.
We nearly rolled penrith, it was our best run of the year, I still don't understand how Grub didn't go straight back in to the team, considering Benji threw in some stellar bad performances since then.

He provides absolutely nothing in attack, I will agree he gives BJ early ball but that is because he has no ability to create space for his outside men so just shovels the ball off. Most of his supporters rave about the energy he plays with, you are saying he gives early ball, I am sorry but I am looing for more from a half than that. I wish he was leaving the club along with Benji.

He has a better short kicking game than Benji and forces repeat sets, his long kicking game is good, and he leads the chase, the proof is in our performances, we performed better with Grub at 6. I am not saying he is a star, but he is better than a 35 year old Benji. But we should be chasing Burton and Staines as a package for next year, but I am talking about 2020 at the moment

The only games we managed to score in while Grub was in the team was against side with absolutely no defense, its a myth that we were better when Grub was playing. We were a bit stronger in defense but couldn't score.

Truth is that many people including the head coach dont rate Jrey,so why should he stay if he wasnt in the squad to play at all...dont use the huge amount he is paid,thats not his fault and yes I do think he is far better beside Brooks than Benji..it has been proven..

I don't know how you can say something that is subjective is proven. He should have stayed to support his team mates, to show his coach he is a team player, to show he wants to be here. All that leaving shows is that you don't care, if that is the case leave and keep walking.

Mate you have your opinion and I have mine,he isnt rated by Madge and we get Benji week in week out ,J Rey does great work off the field with the community to show his loyalty to the club but cant get a run because the legend has to play his farewell tour....
I dont care if he leaves tommorrow,he wasnt in the squad to play so what if he went home...

Yes we have our opinions, that's why it can't be proven because it is subjective.

Because he walked out on his team mates, he showed them he thought he had better things to do. It is actually worse than not showing up at all, he was there and he walked out on them, wasn't there to support them. I'd be filthy if I was his team mate.

If they both came back with pizza for everyone all would be forgiven

 

[Madge]

Tigers to re-sign Maguire but Reynolds, Packer drama highlights issues

The Wests Tigers are moving to silence the deafening noise surrounding the tenure of their coach, set to hand Michael Maguire a one year contract extension despite more cause for concern emerging on Sunday.

A week of conjecture around the coach's relationship with his players ended with revelations out-of-favour duo Josh Reynolds and Russell Packer left Saturday night's game against Manly at half time.

Tigers coach Michael Maguire.
Tigers coach Michael Maguire.CREDIT:GETTY

When contacted by the Herald on Sunday night, Reynolds declined to comment. However sources close to the club said Reynolds, whose behaviour was out of character given his reputation as the ultimate team player, was privately fuming over suggestions that he walked out because he couldn't handle the cold.

The five-eighth, despite being told to find a new home on half a dozen occasions, wasn't required to attend the match but turned up to support his teammates, before leaving at half time.

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"It's not a good look for two of our players to leave at half time," chairman Lee Hagipantelis told the Herald.

"Strictly speaking, they weren't required to be there. Russell had to warm up with the team as 19th man but Josh didn't even warm up with the team. Both players have acknowledged their action creates a perception, but perception is not reality.

"I have spoken to both of them and they've acknowledge it wasn't a good look. There was no intention on their part to show disrespect or a lack of unity. Russell suffers from an arthritic condition and had multiple surgeries in his foot to try and help him play again. Sitting there in the cold does affect him, that is true."

The players' inability to see out the match in the stands reflects poorly, but again highlights the disconnect that the club wants addressed in the offseason when it sits down with Maguire to map out its plan for the future.

Russell Packer charges into the Eels defence earlier in the year.
Russell Packer charges into the Eels defence earlier in the year.CREDIT:GETTY IMAGES

The Wests Tigers has been a revolving door of coaches in recent years and the club is determined to make sure Maguire isn't added to the list, with the former South Sydney premiership-winning mentor to be given an extension on his contract despite already being locked in at the joint venture until the end of 2021.

It's an incredible show of faith when you consider the noise surrounding Maguire's tenure at the club. The murmurs of discontent in the playing ranks keep bubbling along, not to mention the fact the Tigers are likely to miss the finals for a second straight year under his watch despite a miraculous come-from-behind win against Manly on Saturday night.

The Tigers would be well within their rights to sit back and see how next year unfolds before making a decision. That's the safe play considering he still has another year to run on his deal and, to put it bluntly, rival clubs are not exactly lining up for his services.

But in a strong message to the players, some of whom are privately questioning whether he is in fact the right man to lead them out of a decade-long finals slumber, the board and executives will in the coming months add another year to Maguire's incumbency.

The Tigers and, for the large part, their success-starved fans, believe Maguire is the right man. They are behind his no-nonsense approach and want him to add a hard edge to a club long regarded for its soft underbelly.

They also know where there's smoke, there's fire. The issue involving Packer and Reynolds is evidence of that. Packer and Reynolds didn't break any rules when they left the game. Some of their teammates who weren't playing didn't even show up at all, but it's a bad look nonetheless.

The players must take responsibility for their poor choices, but there's also an onus on Maguire to evolve in the off-season and address some of the issues with his coaching style that has affected his relationship with several players at his last two clubs.

Task master: Michael Maguire is known for pushing his players hard.
Task master: Michael Maguire is known for pushing his players hard.CREDIT:GETTY

There's a misconception that the issues arise from how hard Maguire trains his players, that they can't stomach his military-like regime. The real problem stems around his communication skills, and a feeling he avoids the tough conversations.

Like when he asked Benji Marshall and Robbie Farah to approach Moses Mbye about stepping away from the captaincy last year, instead of having the conversation himself. Or, just last week, when he struggled to tell Marshall he wasn't required in 2021, asking the veteran playmaker to "give him 24 hours" despite already reaching a decision with the club he wasn't part of their plans going forward.

Maguire has the runs on the board. No one is questioning his rugby league IQ or his ability to prepare a football team. But a generational transition in players has prompted debate over how compatible his philosophies are with the modern-day footballer.

It was evident last year in how he handled Ryan Matterson, a player who came to the club from the Sydney Roosters with a reputation for requiring a cuddle - or three - to get the best out of him. Maguire is from a different school. The type that brings baseball bats and boa constrictors into dressing rooms to get his point across. Mollycoddling delicate footballers is not in his nature.

The Tigers possess a roster built by Ivan Cleary with personalities that suit an Ivan Cleary-coached team. Maguire will get his team in 2022, when the salary cap frees up in the first season of his forthcoming extension, but what he does between now and then will have a huge impact on whether he can attract Maguire-type footballers to the club.

Tigers powerbrokers know the club is not in a position to let quality footballers walk out the door, or turn players off joining, if it can be avoided by the coach learning to relate on a different level. Sometimes a teaspoon of cement isn't the only remedy.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/tigers-to-re-sign-maguire-but-reynolds-packer-drama-highlights-issues-20200905-p55sre.html

 

[Guest]

Big deal,Josh cant get a game because the club legend keeps getting picked and produces poor performances,they won but JREY beside Brooks in previous games,the team performed better as a whole...Packer left because he doesnt know any better,look at his last few games and he knows why he was replaced...

As Madge said they didnt break any rules...

It is a very big deal

What madge says to the media and whet he's feeling I'm sure you'd know would be two very different things.
No team unity... No mateship.. It looked. Like we'd get pumped so they bailed, disrespected their team mates... How can they ever "be the player you wanna play with" ever again with us?
I hope they never cross the stripe & wear our jumper agin

As I mentioned earlier - perception - this is it in a nutshell. You can't underestimate the effect it has, and rightly or wrongly, the players have not put their best foot forward and the public will demand an answer.

 

[851]

Big deal,Josh cant get a game because the club legend keeps getting picked and produces poor performances,they won but JREY beside Brooks in previous games,the team performed better as a whole...Packer left because he doesnt know any better,look at his last few games and he knows why he was replaced...

As Madge said they didnt break any rules...

This sums it up, Grub is stuck behind Benji, god knows why, and Benji is on a farewell tour, god knows why, so he is a million to 1 to get a game, it must be so frustrating, but he should know better

It might be frustrating for Josh to watch Benji do his farewell tour but he hasn't exactly been busting the door down to get Benji's spot. He needs to suck it up for a month and bust his ring out over the offseason to show he's worthy of the 6 next year. It's inexcusable.

How can he bust the door down, he was streets ahead of Benji until he got suspended, and since then he hasn't been picked, and the team has suffered as a consequence of that. Why Madge didn't drop Benji and bring Grub in after the pathetic effort in his 250th game is a disgrace

Rubbish, Reynolds is just as bad as Benji, a complete waste of money.

That is your opinion, thats fine, I disagree, we looked a far better team with Grub at 6, our right side centre and winger were not getting jammed up for room with Benji running across field, BJ looked the best he has all year with early ball.
We nearly rolled penrith, it was our best run of the year, I still don't understand how Grub didn't go straight back in to the team, considering Benji threw in some stellar bad performances since then.

He provides absolutely nothing in attack, I will agree he gives BJ early ball but that is because he has no ability to create space for his outside men so just shovels the ball off. Most of his supporters rave about the energy he plays with, you are saying he gives early ball, I am sorry but I am looing for more from a half than that. I wish he was leaving the club along with Benji.

He has a better short kicking game than Benji and forces repeat sets, his long kicking game is good, and he leads the chase, the proof is in our performances, we performed better with Grub at 6. I am not saying he is a star, but he is better than a 35 year old Benji. But we should be chasing Burton and Staines as a package for next year, but I am talking about 2020 at the moment

The only games we managed to score in while Grub was in the team was against side with absolutely no defense, its a myth that we were better when Grub was playing. We were a bit stronger in defense but couldn't score.

Truth is that many people including the head coach dont rate Jrey,so why should he stay if he wasnt in the squad to play at all...dont use the huge amount he is paid,thats not his fault and yes I do think he is far better beside Brooks than Benji..it has been proven..

I don't know how you can say something that is subjective is proven. He should have stayed to support his team mates, to show his coach he is a team player, to show he wants to be here. All that leaving shows is that you don't care, if that is the case leave and keep walking.

Mate you have your opinion and I have mine,he isnt rated by Madge and we get Benji week in week out ,J Rey does great work off the field with the community to show his loyalty to the club but cant get a run because the legend has to play his farewell tour....
I dont care if he leaves tommorrow,he wasnt in the squad to play so what if he went home...

Yes we have our opinions, that's why it can't be proven because it is subjective.

Because he walked out on his team mates, he showed them he thought he had better things to do. It is actually worse than not showing up at all, he was there and he walked out on them, wasn't there to support them. I'd be filthy if I was his team mate.

Benji walked out on the club in an Auckland Blues jumper too remember, but they let him back, and that was far far worse than leaving a game at halftime. By your analogy Benji shouldn't have been allowed back, and I agree with that

 

[cochise]

Big deal,Josh cant get a game because the club legend keeps getting picked and produces poor performances,they won but JREY beside Brooks in previous games,the team performed better as a whole...Packer left because he doesnt know any better,look at his last few games and he knows why he was replaced...

As Madge said they didnt break any rules...

This sums it up, Grub is stuck behind Benji, god knows why, and Benji is on a farewell tour, god knows why, so he is a million to 1 to get a game, it must be so frustrating, but he should know better

It might be frustrating for Josh to watch Benji do his farewell tour but he hasn't exactly been busting the door down to get Benji's spot. He needs to suck it up for a month and bust his ring out over the offseason to show he's worthy of the 6 next year. It's inexcusable.

How can he bust the door down, he was streets ahead of Benji until he got suspended, and since then he hasn't been picked, and the team has suffered as a consequence of that. Why Madge didn't drop Benji and bring Grub in after the pathetic effort in his 250th game is a disgrace

Rubbish, Reynolds is just as bad as Benji, a complete waste of money.

That is your opinion, thats fine, I disagree, we looked a far better team with Grub at 6, our right side centre and winger were not getting jammed up for room with Benji running across field, BJ looked the best he has all year with early ball.
We nearly rolled penrith, it was our best run of the year, I still don't understand how Grub didn't go straight back in to the team, considering Benji threw in some stellar bad performances since then.

He provides absolutely nothing in attack, I will agree he gives BJ early ball but that is because he has no ability to create space for his outside men so just shovels the ball off. Most of his supporters rave about the energy he plays with, you are saying he gives early ball, I am sorry but I am looing for more from a half than that. I wish he was leaving the club along with Benji.

He has a better short kicking game than Benji and forces repeat sets, his long kicking game is good, and he leads the chase, the proof is in our performances, we performed better with Grub at 6. I am not saying he is a star, but he is better than a 35 year old Benji. But we should be chasing Burton and Staines as a package for next year, but I am talking about 2020 at the moment

The only games we managed to score in while Grub was in the team was against side with absolutely no defense, its a myth that we were better when Grub was playing. We were a bit stronger in defense but couldn't score.

Truth is that many people including the head coach dont rate Jrey,so why should he stay if he wasnt in the squad to play at all...dont use the huge amount he is paid,thats not his fault and yes I do think he is far better beside Brooks than Benji..it has been proven..

I don't know how you can say something that is subjective is proven. He should have stayed to support his team mates, to show his coach he is a team player, to show he wants to be here. All that leaving shows is that you don't care, if that is the case leave and keep walking.

Mate you have your opinion and I have mine,he isnt rated by Madge and we get Benji week in week out ,J Rey does great work off the field with the community to show his loyalty to the club but cant get a run because the legend has to play his farewell tour....
I dont care if he leaves tommorrow,he wasnt in the squad to play so what if he went home...

Yes we have our opinions, that's why it can't be proven because it is subjective.

Because he walked out on his team mates, he showed them he thought he had better things to do. It is actually worse than not showing up at all, he was there and he walked out on them, wasn't there to support them. I'd be filthy if I was his team mate.

You got that wrong cochise...JRey is only a squad member...he hasnt been a teammate since Benji had to have his farewell tour....

Only a squad member? What rubbish, he would expect others to put in for him if he got a recall and he couldn't even bother to stay and support them because he was cold. They just burnt their reputation with the whole team, I wouldn't want to play with them again.

 

[tig_prmz]

i have arthritis so i cant sit in a 15 degree weather. Are we serious? Is this a footballer of my 90 year old grandma? Wow..

And yeh JR didn't have to be there but EVERY team has its injured and unselected players there don't they? Especially "senior" players like them?

I am hoping what Lee/Madge say to the media is very different to what goes on behind closed doors.

 

[cochise]

Big deal,Josh cant get a game because the club legend keeps getting picked and produces poor performances,they won but JREY beside Brooks in previous games,the team performed better as a whole...Packer left because he doesnt know any better,look at his last few games and he knows why he was replaced...

As Madge said they didnt break any rules...

This sums it up, Grub is stuck behind Benji, god knows why, and Benji is on a farewell tour, god knows why, so he is a million to 1 to get a game, it must be so frustrating, but he should know better

It might be frustrating for Josh to watch Benji do his farewell tour but he hasn't exactly been busting the door down to get Benji's spot. He needs to suck it up for a month and bust his ring out over the offseason to show he's worthy of the 6 next year. It's inexcusable.

How can he bust the door down, he was streets ahead of Benji until he got suspended, and since then he hasn't been picked, and the team has suffered as a consequence of that. Why Madge didn't drop Benji and bring Grub in after the pathetic effort in his 250th game is a disgrace

Rubbish, Reynolds is just as bad as Benji, a complete waste of money.

That is your opinion, thats fine, I disagree, we looked a far better team with Grub at 6, our right side centre and winger were not getting jammed up for room with Benji running across field, BJ looked the best he has all year with early ball.
We nearly rolled penrith, it was our best run of the year, I still don't understand how Grub didn't go straight back in to the team, considering Benji threw in some stellar bad performances since then.

He provides absolutely nothing in attack, I will agree he gives BJ early ball but that is because he has no ability to create space for his outside men so just shovels the ball off. Most of his supporters rave about the energy he plays with, you are saying he gives early ball, I am sorry but I am looing for more from a half than that. I wish he was leaving the club along with Benji.

He has a better short kicking game than Benji and forces repeat sets, his long kicking game is good, and he leads the chase, the proof is in our performances, we performed better with Grub at 6. I am not saying he is a star, but he is better than a 35 year old Benji. But we should be chasing Burton and Staines as a package for next year, but I am talking about 2020 at the moment

The only games we managed to score in while Grub was in the team was against side with absolutely no defense, its a myth that we were better when Grub was playing. We were a bit stronger in defense but couldn't score.

Truth is that many people including the head coach dont rate Jrey,so why should he stay if he wasnt in the squad to play at all...dont use the huge amount he is paid,thats not his fault and yes I do think he is far better beside Brooks than Benji..it has been proven..

I don't know how you can say something that is subjective is proven. He should have stayed to support his team mates, to show his coach he is a team player, to show he wants to be here. All that leaving shows is that you don't care, if that is the case leave and keep walking.

Mate you have your opinion and I have mine,he isnt rated by Madge and we get Benji week in week out ,J Rey does great work off the field with the community to show his loyalty to the club but cant get a run because the legend has to play his farewell tour....
I dont care if he leaves tommorrow,he wasnt in the squad to play so what if he went home...

Yes we have our opinions, that's why it can't be proven because it is subjective.

Because he walked out on his team mates, he showed them he thought he had better things to do. It is actually worse than not showing up at all, he was there and he walked out on them, wasn't there to support them. I'd be filthy if I was his team mate.

Benji walked out on the club in an Auckland Blues jumper too remember, but they let him back, and that was far far worse than leaving a game at halftime. By your analogy Benji shouldn't have been allowed back, and I agree with that

Benji signed a new contract after having his offer withdrawn. These 2 took off because they were cold, this has nothing to do with Benji in my book, they deserted their team mates.

 

[InBenjiWeTrust]

Tigers to re-sign Maguire but Reynolds, Packer drama highlights issues

The Wests Tigers are moving to silence the deafening noise surrounding the tenure of their coach, set to hand Michael Maguire a one year contract extension despite more cause for concern emerging on Sunday.

A week of conjecture around the coach's relationship with his players ended with revelations out-of-favour duo Josh Reynolds and Russell Packer left Saturday night's game against Manly at half time.

Tigers coach Michael Maguire.
Tigers coach Michael Maguire.CREDIT:GETTY

When contacted by the Herald on Sunday night, Reynolds declined to comment. However sources close to the club said Reynolds, whose behaviour was out of character given his reputation as the ultimate team player, was privately fuming over suggestions that he walked out because he couldn't handle the cold.

The five-eighth, despite being told to find a new home on half a dozen occasions, wasn't required to attend the match but turned up to support his teammates, before leaving at half time.

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"It's not a good look for two of our players to leave at half time," chairman Lee Hagipantelis told the Herald.

"Strictly speaking, they weren't required to be there. Russell had to warm up with the team as 19th man but Josh didn't even warm up with the team. Both players have acknowledged their action creates a perception, but perception is not reality.

"I have spoken to both of them and they've acknowledge it wasn't a good look. There was no intention on their part to show disrespect or a lack of unity. Russell suffers from an arthritic condition and had multiple surgeries in his foot to try and help him play again. Sitting there in the cold does affect him, that is true."

The players' inability to see out the match in the stands reflects poorly, but again highlights the disconnect that the club wants addressed in the offseason when it sits down with Maguire to map out its plan for the future.

Russell Packer charges into the Eels defence earlier in the year.
Russell Packer charges into the Eels defence earlier in the year.CREDIT:GETTY IMAGES

The Wests Tigers has been a revolving door of coaches in recent years and the club is determined to make sure Maguire isn't added to the list, with the former South Sydney premiership-winning mentor to be given an extension on his contract despite already being locked in at the joint venture until the end of 2021.

It's an incredible show of faith when you consider the noise surrounding Maguire's tenure at the club. The murmurs of discontent in the playing ranks keep bubbling along, not to mention the fact the Tigers are likely to miss the finals for a second straight year under his watch despite a miraculous come-from-behind win against Manly on Saturday night.

The Tigers would be well within their rights to sit back and see how next year unfolds before making a decision. That's the safe play considering he still has another year to run on his deal and, to put it bluntly, rival clubs are not exactly lining up for his services.

But in a strong message to the players, some of whom are privately questioning whether he is in fact the right man to lead them out of a decade-long finals slumber, the board and executives will in the coming months add another year to Maguire's incumbency.

The Tigers and, for the large part, their success-starved fans, believe Maguire is the right man. They are behind his no-nonsense approach and want him to add a hard edge to a club long regarded for its soft underbelly.

They also know where there's smoke, there's fire. The issue involving Packer and Reynolds is evidence of that. Packer and Reynolds didn't break any rules when they left the game. Some of their teammates who weren't playing didn't even show up at all, but it's a bad look nonetheless.

The players must take responsibility for their poor choices, but there's also an onus on Maguire to evolve in the off-season and address some of the issues with his coaching style that has affected his relationship with several players at his last two clubs.

Task master: Michael Maguire is known for pushing his players hard.
Task master: Michael Maguire is known for pushing his players hard.CREDIT:GETTY

There's a misconception that the issues arise from how hard Maguire trains his players, that they can't stomach his military-like regime. The real problem stems around his communication skills, and a feeling he avoids the tough conversations.

Like when he asked Benji Marshall and Robbie Farah to approach Moses Mbye about stepping away from the captaincy last year, instead of having the conversation himself. Or, just last week, when he struggled to tell Marshall he wasn't required in 2021, asking the veteran playmaker to "give him 24 hours" despite already reaching a decision with the club he wasn't part of their plans going forward.

Maguire has the runs on the board. No one is questioning his rugby league IQ or his ability to prepare a football team. But a generational transition in players has prompted debate over how compatible his philosophies are with the modern-day footballer.

It was evident last year in how he handled Ryan Matterson, a player who came to the club from the Sydney Roosters with a reputation for requiring a cuddle - or three - to get the best out of him. Maguire is from a different school. The type that brings baseball bats and boa constrictors into dressing rooms to get his point across. Mollycoddling delicate footballers is not in his nature.

The Tigers possess a roster built by Ivan Cleary with personalities that suit an Ivan Cleary-coached team. Maguire will get his team in 2022, when the salary cap frees up in the first season of his forthcoming extension, but what he does between now and then will have a huge impact on whether he can attract Maguire-type footballers to the club.

Tigers powerbrokers know the club is not in a position to let quality footballers walk out the door, or turn players off joining, if it can be avoided by the coach learning to relate on a different level. Sometimes a teaspoon of cement isn't the only remedy.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/tigers-to-re-sign-maguire-but-reynolds-packer-drama-highlights-issues-20200905-p5

Locker room decoy run by the King od decoys!:blush:

 

[TrueTiger]

Big deal,Josh cant get a game because the club legend keeps getting picked and produces poor performances,they won but JREY beside Brooks in previous games,the team performed better as a whole...Packer left because he doesnt know any better,look at his last few games and he knows why he was replaced...

As Madge said they didnt break any rules...

This sums it up, Grub is stuck behind Benji, god knows why, and Benji is on a farewell tour, god knows why, so he is a million to 1 to get a game, it must be so frustrating, but he should know better

It might be frustrating for Josh to watch Benji do his farewell tour but he hasn't exactly been busting the door down to get Benji's spot. He needs to suck it up for a month and bust his ring out over the offseason to show he's worthy of the 6 next year. It's inexcusable.

How can he bust the door down, he was streets ahead of Benji until he got suspended, and since then he hasn't been picked, and the team has suffered as a consequence of that. Why Madge didn't drop Benji and bring Grub in after the pathetic effort in his 250th game is a disgrace

Rubbish, Reynolds is just as bad as Benji, a complete waste of money.

That is your opinion, thats fine, I disagree, we looked a far better team with Grub at 6, our right side centre and winger were not getting jammed up for room with Benji running across field, BJ looked the best he has all year with early ball.
We nearly rolled penrith, it was our best run of the year, I still don't understand how Grub didn't go straight back in to the team, considering Benji threw in some stellar bad performances since then.

He provides absolutely nothing in attack, I will agree he gives BJ early ball but that is because he has no ability to create space for his outside men so just shovels the ball off. Most of his supporters rave about the energy he plays with, you are saying he gives early ball, I am sorry but I am looing for more from a half than that. I wish he was leaving the club along with Benji.

He has a better short kicking game than Benji and forces repeat sets, his long kicking game is good, and he leads the chase, the proof is in our performances, we performed better with Grub at 6. I am not saying he is a star, but he is better than a 35 year old Benji. But we should be chasing Burton and Staines as a package for next year, but I am talking about 2020 at the moment

The only games we managed to score in while Grub was in the team was against side with absolutely no defense, its a myth that we were better when Grub was playing. We were a bit stronger in defense but couldn't score.

Truth is that many people including the head coach dont rate Jrey,so why should he stay if he wasnt in the squad to play at all...dont use the huge amount he is paid,thats not his fault and yes I do think he is far better beside Brooks than Benji..it has been proven..

I don't know how you can say something that is subjective is proven. He should have stayed to support his team mates, to show his coach he is a team player, to show he wants to be here. All that leaving shows is that you don't care, if that is the case leave and keep walking.

Mate you have your opinion and I have mine,he isnt rated by Madge and we get Benji week in week out ,J Rey does great work off the field with the community to show his loyalty to the club but cant get a run because the legend has to play his farewell tour....
I dont care if he leaves tommorrow,he wasnt in the squad to play so what if he went home...

Yes we have our opinions, that's why it can't be proven because it is subjective.

Because he walked out on his team mates, he showed them he thought he had better things to do. It is actually worse than not showing up at all, he was there and he walked out on them, wasn't there to support them. I'd be filthy if I was his team mate.

You got that wrong cochise...JRey is only a squad member...he hasnt been a teammate since Benji had to have his farewell tour....

Only a squad member? What rubbish, he would expect others to put in for him if he got a recall and he couldn't even bother to stay and support them because he was cold. They just burnt their reputation with the whole team, I wouldn't want to play with them again.

Read the latest from the club ceo...Reynolds wasnt required to attend the game but turned up anyway to support them....so what if he left at half time.....you and avo have an agenda against reynolds ....but who cares ....

 

[cochise]

Big deal,Josh cant get a game because the club legend keeps getting picked and produces poor performances,they won but JREY beside Brooks in previous games,the team performed better as a whole...Packer left because he doesnt know any better,look at his last few games and he knows why he was replaced...

As Madge said they didnt break any rules...

This sums it up, Grub is stuck behind Benji, god knows why, and Benji is on a farewell tour, god knows why, so he is a million to 1 to get a game, it must be so frustrating, but he should know better

It might be frustrating for Josh to watch Benji do his farewell tour but he hasn't exactly been busting the door down to get Benji's spot. He needs to suck it up for a month and bust his ring out over the offseason to show he's worthy of the 6 next year. It's inexcusable.

How can he bust the door down, he was streets ahead of Benji until he got suspended, and since then he hasn't been picked, and the team has suffered as a consequence of that. Why Madge didn't drop Benji and bring Grub in after the pathetic effort in his 250th game is a disgrace

Rubbish, Reynolds is just as bad as Benji, a complete waste of money.

That is your opinion, thats fine, I disagree, we looked a far better team with Grub at 6, our right side centre and winger were not getting jammed up for room with Benji running across field, BJ looked the best he has all year with early ball.
We nearly rolled penrith, it was our best run of the year, I still don't understand how Grub didn't go straight back in to the team, considering Benji threw in some stellar bad performances since then.

He provides absolutely nothing in attack, I will agree he gives BJ early ball but that is because he has no ability to create space for his outside men so just shovels the ball off. Most of his supporters rave about the energy he plays with, you are saying he gives early ball, I am sorry but I am looing for more from a half than that. I wish he was leaving the club along with Benji.

He has a better short kicking game than Benji and forces repeat sets, his long kicking game is good, and he leads the chase, the proof is in our performances, we performed better with Grub at 6. I am not saying he is a star, but he is better than a 35 year old Benji. But we should be chasing Burton and Staines as a package for next year, but I am talking about 2020 at the moment

The only games we managed to score in while Grub was in the team was against side with absolutely no defense, its a myth that we were better when Grub was playing. We were a bit stronger in defense but couldn't score.

Truth is that many people including the head coach dont rate Jrey,so why should he stay if he wasnt in the squad to play at all...dont use the huge amount he is paid,thats not his fault and yes I do think he is far better beside Brooks than Benji..it has been proven..

I don't know how you can say something that is subjective is proven. He should have stayed to support his team mates, to show his coach he is a team player, to show he wants to be here. All that leaving shows is that you don't care, if that is the case leave and keep walking.

Mate you have your opinion and I have mine,he isnt rated by Madge and we get Benji week in week out ,J Rey does great work off the field with the community to show his loyalty to the club but cant get a run because the legend has to play his farewell tour....
I dont care if he leaves tommorrow,he wasnt in the squad to play so what if he went home...

Yes we have our opinions, that's why it can't be proven because it is subjective.

Because he walked out on his team mates, he showed them he thought he had better things to do. It is actually worse than not showing up at all, he was there and he walked out on them, wasn't there to support them. I'd be filthy if I was his team mate.

You got that wrong cochise...JRey is only a squad member...he hasnt been a teammate since Benji had to have his farewell tour....

Only a squad member? What rubbish, he would expect others to put in for him if he got a recall and he couldn't even bother to stay and support them because he was cold. They just burnt their reputation with the whole team, I wouldn't want to play with them again.

Read the latest from the club ceo...Reynolds wasnt required to attend the game but turned up anyway to support them....so what if he left at half time.....you and avo have an agenda against reynolds ....but who cares ....

He would have been better not to show up, he left because he was cold lol, yep way to support your team mates. Oh sorry they aren't team mates, I guess squad mates?

 

[Lukic]

At the point where I'd be happy paying the vast majority of their wages to move them on. Even clearing up $100k on each would be worth it as we get the extra roster spots. Give the spots to someone who'll give it a crack. I'd rather an average player that busts hit gut than a couple overpaid blokes who don't care taking up spots.

 

[TrueTiger]

Big deal,Josh cant get a game because the club legend keeps getting picked and produces poor performances,they won but JREY beside Brooks in previous games,the team performed better as a whole...Packer left because he doesnt know any better,look at his last few games and he knows why he was replaced...

As Madge said they didnt break any rules...

This sums it up, Grub is stuck behind Benji, god knows why, and Benji is on a farewell tour, god knows why, so he is a million to 1 to get a game, it must be so frustrating, but he should know better

It might be frustrating for Josh to watch Benji do his farewell tour but he hasn't exactly been busting the door down to get Benji's spot. He needs to suck it up for a month and bust his ring out over the offseason to show he's worthy of the 6 next year. It's inexcusable.

How can he bust the door down, he was streets ahead of Benji until he got suspended, and since then he hasn't been picked, and the team has suffered as a consequence of that. Why Madge didn't drop Benji and bring Grub in after the pathetic effort in his 250th game is a disgrace

Rubbish, Reynolds is just as bad as Benji, a complete waste of money.

That is your opinion, thats fine, I disagree, we looked a far better team with Grub at 6, our right side centre and winger were not getting jammed up for room with Benji running across field, BJ looked the best he has all year with early ball.
We nearly rolled penrith, it was our best run of the year, I still don't understand how Grub didn't go straight back in to the team, considering Benji threw in some stellar bad performances since then.

He provides absolutely nothing in attack, I will agree he gives BJ early ball but that is because he has no ability to create space for his outside men so just shovels the ball off. Most of his supporters rave about the energy he plays with, you are saying he gives early ball, I am sorry but I am looing for more from a half than that. I wish he was leaving the club along with Benji.

He has a better short kicking game than Benji and forces repeat sets, his long kicking game is good, and he leads the chase, the proof is in our performances, we performed better with Grub at 6. I am not saying he is a star, but he is better than a 35 year old Benji. But we should be chasing Burton and Staines as a package for next year, but I am talking about 2020 at the moment

The only games we managed to score in while Grub was in the team was against side with absolutely no defense, its a myth that we were better when Grub was playing. We were a bit stronger in defense but couldn't score.

Truth is that many people including the head coach dont rate Jrey,so why should he stay if he wasnt in the squad to play at all...dont use the huge amount he is paid,thats not his fault and yes I do think he is far better beside Brooks than Benji..it has been proven..

I don't know how you can say something that is subjective is proven. He should have stayed to support his team mates, to show his coach he is a team player, to show he wants to be here. All that leaving shows is that you don't care, if that is the case leave and keep walking.

Mate you have your opinion and I have mine,he isnt rated by Madge and we get Benji week in week out ,J Rey does great work off the field with the community to show his loyalty to the club but cant get a run because the legend has to play his farewell tour....
I dont care if he leaves tommorrow,he wasnt in the squad to play so what if he went home...

Yes we have our opinions, that's why it can't be proven because it is subjective.

Because he walked out on his team mates, he showed them he thought he had better things to do. It is actually worse than not showing up at all, he was there and he walked out on them, wasn't there to support them. I'd be filthy if I was his team mate.

You got that wrong cochise...JRey is only a squad member...he hasnt been a teammate since Benji had to have his farewell tour....

Only a squad member? What rubbish, he would expect others to put in for him if he got a recall and he couldn't even bother to stay and support them because he was cold. They just burnt their reputation with the whole team, I wouldn't want to play with them again.

Read the latest from the club ceo...Reynolds wasnt required to attend the game but turned up anyway to support them....so what if he left at half time.....you and avo have an agenda against reynolds ....but who cares ....

He would have been better not to show up, he left because he was cold lol, yep way to support your team mates.

He wasnt required to be there at all at least he was there for half the game....its a lot more than Madge has given him...

 

[cochise]

Big deal,Josh cant get a game because the club legend keeps getting picked and produces poor performances,they won but JREY beside Brooks in previous games,the team performed better as a whole...Packer left because he doesnt know any better,look at his last few games and he knows why he was replaced...

As Madge said they didnt break any rules...

This sums it up, Grub is stuck behind Benji, god knows why, and Benji is on a farewell tour, god knows why, so he is a million to 1 to get a game, it must be so frustrating, but he should know better

It might be frustrating for Josh to watch Benji do his farewell tour but he hasn't exactly been busting the door down to get Benji's spot. He needs to suck it up for a month and bust his ring out over the offseason to show he's worthy of the 6 next year. It's inexcusable.

How can he bust the door down, he was streets ahead of Benji until he got suspended, and since then he hasn't been picked, and the team has suffered as a consequence of that. Why Madge didn't drop Benji and bring Grub in after the pathetic effort in his 250th game is a disgrace

Rubbish, Reynolds is just as bad as Benji, a complete waste of money.

That is your opinion, thats fine, I disagree, we looked a far better team with Grub at 6, our right side centre and winger were not getting jammed up for room with Benji running across field, BJ looked the best he has all year with early ball.
We nearly rolled penrith, it was our best run of the year, I still don't understand how Grub didn't go straight back in to the team, considering Benji threw in some stellar bad performances since then.

He provides absolutely nothing in attack, I will agree he gives BJ early ball but that is because he has no ability to create space for his outside men so just shovels the ball off. Most of his supporters rave about the energy he plays with, you are saying he gives early ball, I am sorry but I am looing for more from a half than that. I wish he was leaving the club along with Benji.

He has a better short kicking game than Benji and forces repeat sets, his long kicking game is good, and he leads the chase, the proof is in our performances, we performed better with Grub at 6. I am not saying he is a star, but he is better than a 35 year old Benji. But we should be chasing Burton and Staines as a package for next year, but I am talking about 2020 at the moment

The only games we managed to score in while Grub was in the team was against side with absolutely no defense, its a myth that we were better when Grub was playing. We were a bit stronger in defense but couldn't score.

Truth is that many people including the head coach dont rate Jrey,so why should he stay if he wasnt in the squad to play at all...dont use the huge amount he is paid,thats not his fault and yes I do think he is far better beside Brooks than Benji..it has been proven..

I don't know how you can say something that is subjective is proven. He should have stayed to support his team mates, to show his coach he is a team player, to show he wants to be here. All that leaving shows is that you don't care, if that is the case leave and keep walking.

Mate you have your opinion and I have mine,he isnt rated by Madge and we get Benji week in week out ,J Rey does great work off the field with the community to show his loyalty to the club but cant get a run because the legend has to play his farewell tour....
I dont care if he leaves tommorrow,he wasnt in the squad to play so what if he went home...

Yes we have our opinions, that's why it can't be proven because it is subjective.

Because he walked out on his team mates, he showed them he thought he had better things to do. It is actually worse than not showing up at all, he was there and he walked out on them, wasn't there to support them. I'd be filthy if I was his team mate.

You got that wrong cochise...JRey is only a squad member...he hasnt been a teammate since Benji had to have his farewell tour....

Only a squad member? What rubbish, he would expect others to put in for him if he got a recall and he couldn't even bother to stay and support them because he was cold. They just burnt their reputation with the whole team, I wouldn't want to play with them again.

Read the latest from the club ceo...Reynolds wasnt required to attend the game but turned up anyway to support them....so what if he left at half time.....you and avo have an agenda against reynolds ....but who cares ....

He would have been better not to show up, he left because he was cold lol, yep way to support your team mates.

He wasnt required to be there at all at least he was there for half the game....its a lot more than Madge has given him...

He should have stayed home then, better than walking out when they are losing.

 

[Guest]

Hooper chiming in with his view now...

Big-money Tigers WALKED OUT of Brookie before teammates staged epic comeback win
September 6, 2020 8:23pm
JAMES HOOPER
Source: FOX SPORTS

The Wests Tigers have vowed to get tough with $1.6 million walkabout stars Josh Reynolds and Russell Packer.
In a bizarre move which has overshadowed the Tigers gutsy upset over Manly, Reynolds and Packer inexplicably opted to leave Brookvale Oval at halftime.

The Tigers then staged a fight back to record one of the club’s best wins of the season but the duo was nowhere to be seen in the victorious dressing rooms.

After The Daily Telegraph exposed the pair on Sunday afternoon, CEO Justin Pascoe and chairman Lee Hagipantelis intend to hit them with both barrels on Monday.

Tigers chairman Hagipantelis is the boss of Bryden’s Lawyers with the club examining what punishments they can serve.

“The actions are not acceptable from my perspective. We are focused on ensuring every single person, player coach administrator board members actions are in complete alignment with the expectation of higher standards,” Pascoe said.

“Both Lee and I will speak directly again with the players tomorrow. The actions portray a look of the club that is not accurate and takes away from the hard fought win on Saturday night.

“The behaviors you walk past are the behaviors you accept and we won’t walk past these, they need to be addressed and not accepted.”

 

[TrueTiger]

Big deal,Josh cant get a game because the club legend keeps getting picked and produces poor performances,they won but JREY beside Brooks in previous games,the team performed better as a whole...Packer left because he doesnt know any better,look at his last few games and he knows why he was replaced...

As Madge said they didnt break any rules...

This sums it up, Grub is stuck behind Benji, god knows why, and Benji is on a farewell tour, god knows why, so he is a million to 1 to get a game, it must be so frustrating, but he should know better

It might be frustrating for Josh to watch Benji do his farewell tour but he hasn't exactly been busting the door down to get Benji's spot. He needs to suck it up for a month and bust his ring out over the offseason to show he's worthy of the 6 next year. It's inexcusable.

How can he bust the door down, he was streets ahead of Benji until he got suspended, and since then he hasn't been picked, and the team has suffered as a consequence of that. Why Madge didn't drop Benji and bring Grub in after the pathetic effort in his 250th game is a disgrace

Rubbish, Reynolds is just as bad as Benji, a complete waste of money.

That is your opinion, thats fine, I disagree, we looked a far better team with Grub at 6, our right side centre and winger were not getting jammed up for room with Benji running across field, BJ looked the best he has all year with early ball.
We nearly rolled penrith, it was our best run of the year, I still don't understand how Grub didn't go straight back in to the team, considering Benji threw in some stellar bad performances since then.

He provides absolutely nothing in attack, I will agree he gives BJ early ball but that is because he has no ability to create space for his outside men so just shovels the ball off. Most of his supporters rave about the energy he plays with, you are saying he gives early ball, I am sorry but I am looing for more from a half than that. I wish he was leaving the club along with Benji.

He has a better short kicking game than Benji and forces repeat sets, his long kicking game is good, and he leads the chase, the proof is in our performances, we performed better with Grub at 6. I am not saying he is a star, but he is better than a 35 year old Benji. But we should be chasing Burton and Staines as a package for next year, but I am talking about 2020 at the moment

The only games we managed to score in while Grub was in the team was against side with absolutely no defense, its a myth that we were better when Grub was playing. We were a bit stronger in defense but couldn't score.

Truth is that many people including the head coach dont rate Jrey,so why should he stay if he wasnt in the squad to play at all...dont use the huge amount he is paid,thats not his fault and yes I do think he is far better beside Brooks than Benji..it has been proven..

I don't know how you can say something that is subjective is proven. He should have stayed to support his team mates, to show his coach he is a team player, to show he wants to be here. All that leaving shows is that you don't care, if that is the case leave and keep walking.

Mate you have your opinion and I have mine,he isnt rated by Madge and we get Benji week in week out ,J Rey does great work off the field with the community to show his loyalty to the club but cant get a run because the legend has to play his farewell tour....
I dont care if he leaves tommorrow,he wasnt in the squad to play so what if he went home...

Yes we have our opinions, that's why it can't be proven because it is subjective.

Because he walked out on his team mates, he showed them he thought he had better things to do. It is actually worse than not showing up at all, he was there and he walked out on them, wasn't there to support them. I'd be filthy if I was his team mate.

You got that wrong cochise...JRey is only a squad member...he hasnt been a teammate since Benji had to have his farewell tour....

Only a squad member? What rubbish, he would expect others to put in for him if he got a recall and he couldn't even bother to stay and support them because he was cold. They just burnt their reputation with the whole team, I wouldn't want to play with them again.

Read the latest from the club ceo...Reynolds wasnt required to attend the game but turned up anyway to support them....so what if he left at half time.....you and avo have an agenda against reynolds ....but who cares ....

He would have been better not to show up, he left because he was cold lol, yep way to support your team mates.

He wasnt required to be there at all at least he was there for half the game....its a lot more than Madge has given him...

He should have stayed home then, better than walking out when they are losing.

He has copped plenty when he was on the field with them doing his best and they were losing as well...

 

[cochise]

Big deal,Josh cant get a game because the club legend keeps getting picked and produces poor performances,they won but JREY beside Brooks in previous games,the team performed better as a whole...Packer left because he doesnt know any better,look at his last few games and he knows why he was replaced...

As Madge said they didnt break any rules...

This sums it up, Grub is stuck behind Benji, god knows why, and Benji is on a farewell tour, god knows why, so he is a million to 1 to get a game, it must be so frustrating, but he should know better

It might be frustrating for Josh to watch Benji do his farewell tour but he hasn't exactly been busting the door down to get Benji's spot. He needs to suck it up for a month and bust his ring out over the offseason to show he's worthy of the 6 next year. It's inexcusable.

How can he bust the door down, he was streets ahead of Benji until he got suspended, and since then he hasn't been picked, and the team has suffered as a consequence of that. Why Madge didn't drop Benji and bring Grub in after the pathetic effort in his 250th game is a disgrace

Rubbish, Reynolds is just as bad as Benji, a complete waste of money.

That is your opinion, thats fine, I disagree, we looked a far better team with Grub at 6, our right side centre and winger were not getting jammed up for room with Benji running across field, BJ looked the best he has all year with early ball.
We nearly rolled penrith, it was our best run of the year, I still don't understand how Grub didn't go straight back in to the team, considering Benji threw in some stellar bad performances since then.

He provides absolutely nothing in attack, I will agree he gives BJ early ball but that is because he has no ability to create space for his outside men so just shovels the ball off. Most of his supporters rave about the energy he plays with, you are saying he gives early ball, I am sorry but I am looing for more from a half than that. I wish he was leaving the club along with Benji.

He has a better short kicking game than Benji and forces repeat sets, his long kicking game is good, and he leads the chase, the proof is in our performances, we performed better with Grub at 6. I am not saying he is a star, but he is better than a 35 year old Benji. But we should be chasing Burton and Staines as a package for next year, but I am talking about 2020 at the moment

The only games we managed to score in while Grub was in the team was against side with absolutely no defense, its a myth that we were better when Grub was playing. We were a bit stronger in defense but couldn't score.

Truth is that many people including the head coach dont rate Jrey,so why should he stay if he wasnt in the squad to play at all...dont use the huge amount he is paid,thats not his fault and yes I do think he is far better beside Brooks than Benji..it has been proven..

I don't know how you can say something that is subjective is proven. He should have stayed to support his team mates, to show his coach he is a team player, to show he wants to be here. All that leaving shows is that you don't care, if that is the case leave and keep walking.

Mate you have your opinion and I have mine,he isnt rated by Madge and we get Benji week in week out ,J Rey does great work off the field with the community to show his loyalty to the club but cant get a run because the legend has to play his farewell tour....
I dont care if he leaves tommorrow,he wasnt in the squad to play so what if he went home...

Yes we have our opinions, that's why it can't be proven because it is subjective.

Because he walked out on his team mates, he showed them he thought he had better things to do. It is actually worse than not showing up at all, he was there and he walked out on them, wasn't there to support them. I'd be filthy if I was his team mate.

You got that wrong cochise...JRey is only a squad member...he hasnt been a teammate since Benji had to have his farewell tour....

Only a squad member? What rubbish, he would expect others to put in for him if he got a recall and he couldn't even bother to stay and support them because he was cold. They just burnt their reputation with the whole team, I wouldn't want to play with them again.

Read the latest from the club ceo...Reynolds wasnt required to attend the game but turned up anyway to support them....so what if he left at half time.....you and avo have an agenda against reynolds ....but who cares ....

Doesn't look like the CEO was too impressed.

“The actions are not acceptable from my perspective. We are focused on ensuring every single person, player coach administrator board members actions are in complete alignment with the expectation of higher standards,” Pascoe said.

 

[Geo]

In a bizarre move which has overshadowed the Tigers gutsy upset over Manly, Reynolds and Packer inexplicably opted to leave Brookvale Oval at halftime.

Umm..it's only overshadowing it because you and your mate Buzzard would rather report on that than the amazing comeback Win..

 

[TrueTiger]

Big deal,Josh cant get a game because the club legend keeps getting picked and produces poor performances,they won but JREY beside Brooks in previous games,the team performed better as a whole...Packer left because he doesnt know any better,look at his last few games and he knows why he was replaced...

As Madge said they didnt break any rules...

This sums it up, Grub is stuck behind Benji, god knows why, and Benji is on a farewell tour, god knows why, so he is a million to 1 to get a game, it must be so frustrating, but he should know better

It might be frustrating for Josh to watch Benji do his farewell tour but he hasn't exactly been busting the door down to get Benji's spot. He needs to suck it up for a month and bust his ring out over the offseason to show he's worthy of the 6 next year. It's inexcusable.

How can he bust the door down, he was streets ahead of Benji until he got suspended, and since then he hasn't been picked, and the team has suffered as a consequence of that. Why Madge didn't drop Benji and bring Grub in after the pathetic effort in his 250th game is a disgrace

Rubbish, Reynolds is just as bad as Benji, a complete waste of money.

That is your opinion, thats fine, I disagree, we looked a far better team with Grub at 6, our right side centre and winger were not getting jammed up for room with Benji running across field, BJ looked the best he has all year with early ball.
We nearly rolled penrith, it was our best run of the year, I still don't understand how Grub didn't go straight back in to the team, considering Benji threw in some stellar bad performances since then.

He provides absolutely nothing in attack, I will agree he gives BJ early ball but that is because he has no ability to create space for his outside men so just shovels the ball off. Most of his supporters rave about the energy he plays with, you are saying he gives early ball, I am sorry but I am looing for more from a half than that. I wish he was leaving the club along with Benji.

He has a better short kicking game than Benji and forces repeat sets, his long kicking game is good, and he leads the chase, the proof is in our performances, we performed better with Grub at 6. I am not saying he is a star, but he is better than a 35 year old Benji. But we should be chasing Burton and Staines as a package for next year, but I am talking about 2020 at the moment

The only games we managed to score in while Grub was in the team was against side with absolutely no defense, its a myth that we were better when Grub was playing. We were a bit stronger in defense but couldn't score.

Truth is that many people including the head coach dont rate Jrey,so why should he stay if he wasnt in the squad to play at all...dont use the huge amount he is paid,thats not his fault and yes I do think he is far better beside Brooks than Benji..it has been proven..

I don't know how you can say something that is subjective is proven. He should have stayed to support his team mates, to show his coach he is a team player, to show he wants to be here. All that leaving shows is that you don't care, if that is the case leave and keep walking.

Mate you have your opinion and I have mine,he isnt rated by Madge and we get Benji week in week out ,J Rey does great work off the field with the community to show his loyalty to the club but cant get a run because the legend has to play his farewell tour....
I dont care if he leaves tommorrow,he wasnt in the squad to play so what if he went home...

Yes we have our opinions, that's why it can't be proven because it is subjective.

Because he walked out on his team mates, he showed them he thought he had better things to do. It is actually worse than not showing up at all, he was there and he walked out on them, wasn't there to support them. I'd be filthy if I was his team mate.

You got that wrong cochise...JRey is only a squad member...he hasnt been a teammate since Benji had to have his farewell tour....

Only a squad member? What rubbish, he would expect others to put in for him if he got a recall and he couldn't even bother to stay and support them because he was cold. They just burnt their reputation with the whole team, I wouldn't want to play with them again.

Read the latest from the club ceo...Reynolds wasnt required to attend the game but turned up anyway to support them....so what if he left at half time.....you and avo have an agenda against reynolds ....but who cares ....

Doesn't look like the CEO was too impressed.

“The actions are not acceptable from my perspective. We are focused on ensuring every single person, player coach administrator board members actions are in complete alignment with the expectation of higher standards,” Pascoe said.

Maybe they should get their stories right before they front the media....""Reynolds wasnt required to attend,but did to support the team""someone has it wrong...