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Eddie

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I got smashed in pre season for suggesting it was silly for Sirro to play in the 9s with a needle from a pre existing injury.

Well yesterday I don't know what happened to Teddy however he twisted the ankle horribly in the first half. Up 26-0 for some reason he comes out for the second half and plays another 20 minutes (assuming with a pain killing injection?)

Obviously it's a competition game and a game of importance. Obviously players are tough and like to see games out. Maybe he couldnt do any more damage to it (highly doubt that with an ankle)

I just get frustrated that we seem to not use common sense sometimes. We wonder why we get high injury tolls and with Siro and Teddy maybe we made some blunders that added to their injuries in situations where they could have not played.

Maybe im out of line here, but I was calling it at halftime yesterday, please get him off we are 26 up!!
 
Lets deal with yesterday instead of going over old ground hey pal?

I think the coach could have stepped in at halftime and taken him off. He was clearly struggling. Playing on the 20 minutes on a wet track with a dodgy ankle up 26 points. He is of big importance to us so I don't know why he/we took the risk.

People can say it is a non issue all they want, but its very possible the injury was made worse by playing on in obvious pain. Now we miss him for 8 weeks.

All Im doing is questioning keeping him out for another 30 odd minutes when we were so far in front and control. I know its a tough game and its a fine line.
 
I'd say the Doctor/Physio advised it was Ok to continue playing on the injury with a needle…we seem to have a fairly conservative approach compared to other clubs in this area...then again we were up by 20 so why risk it?...another dumb decision by the medico's???
 
maybe potter remembered what happened last week and did NOT want a repeat.

but yea, probably should have taken him off at the half
 
Obviously it was an injury that the club doctor believed couldn't get any worse with further playing time

I'd trust a club doctor , he won't remain employed for very long if he worsens injuries to star players

The idea of the needle is to make it bearable to continue playing close to your full ability
 
sirro had a broken toe and we went over this after the 9s, but it was then his foot that got injured.

in this case, i saw teddy limping around for ages after the injury and i cant see why they put him back on after half time because an ankle is very different to a toe and to me it seems a fait accompli it would only get worse?

strange decision…

as for him being out, if the tigers can get a few wins without him they will be in great shape when he gets back in the team.
 
@alexaki said:
I'd say the Doctor/Physio advised it was Ok to continue playing on the injury with a needle…we seem to have a fairly conservative approach compared to other clubs in this area...then again we were up by 20 so why risk it?...another dumb decision by the medico's???
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Seems a common approach by the Tigers…have a needle and play on.... lets see if we can make it worse.

Sirro playing needled in the nines was just plain stupid. Toe or foot doesn't matter should not have played.
It's reported Tedesco has the same injury as Gallen who came off immediately after being injured, yet Tedesco is left on the field.
Gallen has a lot more experience than Teddy and Sirro these young guys are trusting of the medical staff and don't have the same influence as Gallen to know to just come off.
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I think we need a new Doctor/Physio if that's the case.
 
Hey I knew it!

I saw Irvine's name on the post and of course someone should be sacked! I am surprised that it isn't Mayers Fault somehow. :stuck_out_tongue:

Back to the topic -

Complete Non-Issue.

Tedesco was either going to be out, or going to be out.
 
@Irvine said:
@alexaki said:
I'd say the Doctor/Physio advised it was Ok to continue playing on the injury with a needle…we seem to have a fairly conservative approach compared to other clubs in this area...then again we were up by 20 so why risk it?...another dumb decision by the medico's???

Seems a common approach by the Tigers…have a needle and play on.... lets see if we can make it worse.

Sirro playing needled in the nines was just plain stupid. Toe or foot doesn't matter should not have played.
It's reported Tedesco has the same injury as Gallen who came off immediately after being injured, yet Tedesco is left on the field.
Gallen has a lot more experience than Teddy and Sirro these young guys are trusting of the medical staff and don't have the same influence as Gallen to know to just come off.
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I think we need a new Doctor/Physio if that's the case.
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If u hadn't noticed we do have a new doctor.

He started this week. Came from I believe the Penrith reserve grade.

We have not had a a regular doctor all year.

Doc from the start of year is no longer doing it.

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@Irvine said:
@alexaki said:
I'd say the Doctor/Physio advised it was Ok to continue playing on the injury with a needle…we seem to have a fairly conservative approach compared to other clubs in this area...then again we were up by 20 so why risk it?...another dumb decision by the medico's???

Seems a common approach by the Tigers…have a needle and play on.... lets see if we can make it worse.

Sirro playing needled in the nines was just plain stupid. Toe or foot doesn't matter should not have played.
It's reported Tedesco has the same injury as Gallen who came off immediately after being injured, yet Tedesco is left on the field.
Gallen has a lot more experience than Teddy and Sirro these young guys are trusting of the medical staff and don't have the same influence as Gallen to know to just come off.
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I think we need a new Doctor/Physio if that's the case.
Click to expand...
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If u hadn't noticed we do have a new doctor.

He started this week. Came from I believe the Penrith reserve grade.

We have not had a a regular doctor all year.

Doc from the start of year is no longer doing it.

_Posted using RoarFEED V.4_
 
@Eddie said:
Lets deal with yesterday instead of going over old ground hey pal?

I think the coach could have stepped in at halftime and taken him off. He was clearly struggling. Playing on the 20 minutes on a wet track with a dodgy ankle up 26 points. He is of big importance to us so I don't know why he/we took the risk.

People can say it is a non issue all they want, but its very possible the injury was made worse by playing on in obvious pain. Now we miss him for 8 weeks.

All Im doing is questioning keeping him out for another 30 odd minutes when we were so far in front and control. I know its a tough game and its a fine line.
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LOL…Pal?
**You** brought up sirro.
I know for a fact it was a totally new injury, but yeh you deal with your 'I thinks' "maybes" and your "I'm assumings..."
I'll leave you to it.
 
I am no doctor but two things clearly need to be taken into consideration.

1\. The initial diagnosis from the medical staff.

2\. Tedesco wanting to play on.

I don't believe a situation would have developed where Tedesco was forced to play injured.
 
My two bobs worth (yelling at the box after deciding against standing in the wind and rain), whilst watching him hobble around from my recliner, was get him off now.

To me it was a no brainer as we were up twenty six zip and if he comes good he can return after half time. A few extra minutes field time for each forward as a result of an unplanned interchange is a small price to pay when compared to the alternative of losing a key player for even one additional match.

Certainly no great medical knowledge at my end and he may well have not aggravated the injury by staying on, but if I was a betting man, I would not have taken the odds.
 
I'm no Doctor, but I do watch telly! Remember, "pain is natures warning".
I have seen plenty of situations where a player gets a minor sprain and plays through it without, or with, an injection and does no further damage. Most of us here have probably done it. So it would be no surprise for medical staff and Tedesco to make that call.
Tedesco looked distressed as he limped around, and was clearly in pain. There's a bit of a signal that it was not a minor sprain and should have been examined much more closely before going back into play. I'd take him off. Discretion is the better part of valour.
 
We will probably never know whether going back on exacerbated the injury, however, I was worried when he ran back out it because we know Teddy has had a bad run and when you're carrying an injury you tend to try and compensate - putting strain on other muscles and tendons.

Anyway, hindsight is the greatest of the super heroes, and with its benefit I think we'd all say it would have been better to take him off, but that didn't happen and all we can do is wish him all the best for a swift recovery.
 
@innsaneink said:
@Eddie said:
Lets deal with yesterday instead of going over old ground hey pal?

I think the coach could have stepped in at halftime and taken him off. He was clearly struggling. Playing on the 20 minutes on a wet track with a dodgy ankle up 26 points. He is of big importance to us so I don't know why he/we took the risk.

People can say it is a non issue all they want, but its very possible the injury was made worse by playing on in obvious pain. Now we miss him for 8 weeks.

All Im doing is questioning keeping him out for another 30 odd minutes when we were so far in front and control. I know its a tough game and its a fine line.

LOL…Pal?
**You** brought up sirro.
I know for a fact it was a totally new injury, but yeh you deal with your 'I thinks' "maybes" and your "I'm assumings..."
I'll leave you to it.
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But you know for a fact about Sirros injury hey?

Another one of those wannabe insiders!

SOme people agree with me. Some dont. Ankles can be made worse by playing on. I thought it was a dumb decision. Thats all.
 
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