PATHETIC

[stryker]

Make that call against quality opposition, then you can gloat.

 

[madunit]

Lets be honest. Our defence for 80 mins was abysmal. The reason why we stopped leaking points is simply because we got a lot of repeat sets from odd penalties and parra's poor handling.

With the amount of ball & field position we were gifted, we should have scored 50 points. Any team should have.

Every week the defence gets worse. If Sheens continues persisting with Benji at halfback, then he needs to have Fulton defending next to him, the same way Fulton looked after Lui in defence. At the moment Benji & Blair are defending next to each other. They don't communicate well and their first contact when making a tackle is with their hands and arms, nit their shoulders.

 

[dimitri]

Give Parra some credit.

Dangerous with the ball particularly when they were 11/11 sets.

The defensive leaks were due to individual errors.

The team is alive and if they keep improving, who knows.

To write the team, coach and staff off at this point in time is pathetic and sounds like some have a agenda.

 

[Merlot_Tiger]

I think our defence was extremely poor in regards to one on one misses. Those breaks by Eels in the middle of the park and out wide were due to poor misses by individual players. Our scrambling and sliding defence were pretty good I thought. Other than Farrah not being able to catch that bomb, Marshall and Moltzen I thought covered well across the back line as the rest they slid from side to side in defence. There were plenty of times in that 2nd half right in front of where I was sitting where Eels looked to have the overlap and committed Utai, for then a Ayshford or Marshall to lap around and cover. It's those soft one on one tackle misses that kill us at the moment.

 

[madunit]

Wingers rushing up and in are a blight on our game, it just isolates the winger defensively and leaves him covering the sideline and the inside player. It also forces the entire defensive line to slide hard towards that isolated centre.

A change of play direction has seen our opposite wing completely open for easy tries.

Tuqiri was the worst at it, his stupid defensive plays cost us 10 times more tries that it saved us, I'm sure of it.

Koroibete is much better positionally than Tuqiri and Utai and must not be dropped to reggies for either of those two ever.

One bloke who had a great game but will get overlooked is Ayshford, especially in defence. He was cleaning up missed tackles all night. Benji went to him more frequently in attack too and he made a great bust. If only Sheens had've left Ayshford in that position all year, we could have seen that performance more than once or twice this year which could have made a telling difference.

Moltzen's biggest issue as a fullback, more than anything, is his positioning, he simply has no idea at all. Thankfully Ryan and Utai have been covering his arse all year, but they can't keep doing it.

Blair's workrate needs to increase rapidly and dramatically. Some simple stats last night showing how little he does (and this has nothing to do with structure, but doing the basics, tackling players and hitting the ball up)

Blair 19 tackles, 5 missed in 72 mins
Cashmere 11 tackles, 1 missed in 14 mins
Bell 11 tackles, 1 missed in 16 mins

Blair 9 runs for 55m in 72 mins
Moors 6 runs for 59m in 21 mins

 

[barrytiger]

every game is different,the boys won tonite there defense wasnt great,but how good were some of those tries,the defence after tonites effort will improve and they know it.

 

[barrytiger]

Give Parra some credit.

Dangerous with the ball particularly when they were 11/11 sets.

The defensive leaks were due to individual errors.

The team is alive and if they keep improving, who knows.

To write the team, coach and staff off at this point in time is pathetic and sounds like some have a agenda.

Beautifull :smiley: :smiley:

 

[supercoach]

Our defense was abysmal and has been all year, lets face it except for the odd month its been average for the past ten years. You play to your strengths and they did that last night but when they come up against the better sides over the next few weeks they are in massive trouble. The big aggressive sides will have a picnic. Its been broken all year so I cant see how they are going to fix it in a few weeks.

Just one last thing coming 8th in this comp is no pass mark

 

[magpiecol]

Lets be honest. Our defence for 80 mins was abysmal. The reason why we stopped leaking points is simply because we got a lot of repeat sets from odd penalties and parra's poor handling.

With the amount of ball & field position we were gifted, we should have scored 50 points. Any team should have.

Every week the defence gets worse. If Sheens continues persisting with Benji at halfback, then he needs to have Fulton defending next to him, the same way Fulton looked after Lui in defence. At the moment Benji & Blair are defending next to each other. They don't communicate well and their first contact when making a tackle is with their hands and arms, nit their shoulders.

Ah, we scored 51 points. Duh.

 

[innsaneink]

Whoooosh, col
Straight over his head to the boundary

 

[system]

The positive. The second 40 minutes was something to build upon rather then regret, that is something

 

[innsaneink]

The positive. The second 40 minutes was something to build upon rather then regret, that is something

It will give us confidence, with confidence comes chatter/talk…what we need to help in improving the defence

We will look like world beaters next week I'm confident, Stains cannot score points...Hornby & Fein remind me of Withers & Fitzy in the halves...sorta like plain vanilla ice cream - minus the vanilla - zzzzzzzz


 

[Goose]

Given where we were after 20 mins, the next 60 was sensational, many teams would have tossed it in. To get our selves back into it before half time was the key. The second half was excellent.

It was the confidence boost the boys needed to play themselves back into form.

I reckon we will win next week and give the doggies a shake, they are due for a lapse, it is difficult to be "up" for so long.

 

[jirskyr]

Lets be honest. Our defence for 80 mins was abysmal. The reason why we stopped leaking points is simply because we got a lot of repeat sets from odd penalties and parra's poor handling.

With the amount of ball & field position we were gifted, we should have scored 50 points. Any team should have.

Every week the defence gets worse. If Sheens continues persisting with Benji at halfback, then he needs to have Fulton defending next to him, the same way Fulton looked after Lui in defence. At the moment Benji & Blair are defending next to each other. They don't communicate well and their first contact when making a tackle is with their hands and arms, nit their shoulders.

Ah, we scored 51 points. Duh.

I think madunit means that 50 points should be our expectation with that type of ball and field position, not that we didn't make it. I.e. we should have scored the 50 points that we did.

 

[jirskyr]

One bloke who had a great game but will get overlooked is Ayshford, especially in defence. He was cleaning up missed tackles all night. Benji went to him more frequently in attack too and he made a great bust. If only Sheens had've left Ayshford in that position all year, we could have seen that performance more than once or twice this year which could have made a telling difference.

Sorry I can't agree with that. He persisted with Aysh for several weeks playing absolutely abominal footy in the centres, before relegating to the bench. The forum was almost unanimous calling for him to be dropped. He ended up getting a start at 5/8th, go figure.

The same thing happened with Reddy - in no way did I want Sheensie to persist with him in the case he "came good" some 6 rounds later.

 

[saundo55]

Wouldn't matter what happens this game or any game

The same old knockers complain about everyone and everyone

They seem to prefer us to lose do they can have another dig

Funny though most of them can't acknowledge when their targets do something really well and just sweat on a mistake to justify their pessimistic view of the world
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[Merlot_Tiger]

Wouldn't matter what happens this game or any game

The same old knockers complain about everyone and everyone

They seem to prefer us to lose do they can have another dig

Funny though most of them can't acknowledge when their targets do something really well and just sweat on a mistake to justify their pessimistic view of the world
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Agree. Whilst I appreciate we are all entitled to opinions and the very purpose of a forum is for people to be able to express themselves and opinions, but WOW there's some negativity around this place. In an effort to try and balance the ledger, for the record, I thought Moltzen had a very good game, Blair was everywhere and in everything thus of course there will be a percentage of mistakes, our defence shuffled and scarambled well when needed and slid across the field with backs wrapping around the outside man when an over lap looked likely. Our tries we scored were of high quality and there were actually some set structured plays that got us over the line also. Something we havn't seen for a while. And I loved watching every minute and got a lot of enjoyment out of it. Positive stuff not "pathetic"

 

[magpiecol]

Despite us only slightly being down this has been the most infuriating game I ever witnessed for the following reasons.

* Jake Mullaney has already proven that Tim Sheens and the Wests Tigers management have NFI about talent. If this kid never deserved a shot at the Tigers ahead of Tim Moltzen (before Tedesco even came along) then I am not friggin' here.

* The underutilisation of Marika Koroibete indicates that he is really only there because Sheens has no other choice. None of the plays have been involving him at all, which is a crock, because he is easily the fastest and most dangerous outside back on the field. This in turn makes me think that Koroibete isn't actually in his plans. As with last week Koroibete has received zero ball other than off kicks. Two of the three times he has had the ball he looked like Mal Meninga.

* Adam Blair has continued to show he is a god damned joke of a player. That effort on Ben Roberts in the first Parramatta try was laughable.

* Junior Moors has almost been our best forward in eight minutes on the field and he too seems to be in the "meh" group according to Sheens.

* Aaron Woods got so sick of having his arms free with no support that he just angrily threw it at Farah's back when his back was turned.

* Robbie Farah cannot inspire the team to defend well ergo I think he should not be our captain going forward. Hurts to say it because I love him but I just don't think he is a good on field leader because our team has no guts. Imagine if Gallen was our captain, would we be defending this badly?
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* Benji Marshall continues to be a turnstyle, show pony and we only have a dummy half as another option. Sheenius.

Screw this team.

First half comment for sure!
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I think you are getting Blair and Farah mixed up. It was Farah who missed him badly. It was Blair who saved a certain try with his tackle on the Parra centre, before, once again, Farah dropped a ball that allowed another Parra try.

 

[kh_canada]

Despite us only slightly being down this has been the most infuriating game I ever witnessed for the following reasons.

* Jake Mullaney has already proven that Tim Sheens and the Wests Tigers management have NFI about talent. If this kid never deserved a shot at the Tigers ahead of Tim Moltzen (before Tedesco even came along) then I am not friggin' here.

* The underutilisation of Marika Koroibete indicates that he is really only there because Sheens has no other choice. None of the plays have been involving him at all, which is a crock, because he is easily the fastest and most dangerous outside back on the field. This in turn makes me think that Koroibete isn't actually in his plans. As with last week Koroibete has received zero ball other than off kicks. Two of the three times he has had the ball he looked like Mal Meninga.

* Adam Blair has continued to show he is a god damned joke of a player. That effort on Ben Roberts in the first Parramatta try was laughable.

* Junior Moors has almost been our best forward in eight minutes on the field and he too seems to be in the "meh" group according to Sheens.

* Aaron Woods got so sick of having his arms free with no support that he just angrily threw it at Farah's back when his back was turned.

* Robbie Farah cannot inspire the team to defend well ergo I think he should not be our captain going forward. Hurts to say it because I love him but I just don't think he is a good on field leader because our team has no guts. Imagine if Gallen was our captain, would we be defending this badly?
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* Benji Marshall continues to be a turnstyle, show pony and we only have a dummy half as another option. Sheenius.

Screw this team.

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I think you are getting Blair and Farah mixed up. It was Farah who missed him badly. It was Blair who saved a certain try with his tackle on the Parra centre, before, once again, Farah dropped a ball that allowed another Parra try.

Honestly don't believe what I'm reading, this is what is PATHETIC! Get off your highhorses for once. You all think you know everything about everyone. We win a game yet you rip it to shreds about how crap we were. The first half was a shocker in places but we fought back after 50 minutes and came out on top. How about you show a little support instead of "screwing this team"

 

[Spiros_Yeeros]

This is the team the coach wanted and it has only won 50% of its games.