OFFICIAL Pathways - KOE General Discussion

[stephen]

Always thought Brad Parker would've been great for us. Another of those with limited natural talent but gives you everything he's got.

 

[Tigers_Wests]

For those who watch, what were the positions? With Fainu listed on wing and tds at prop or makes it hard.
Was valevatu 5/8, Wilson to fullback and Laulilii on wing?

Yeah Valevatu played in the halves, Wilson at fb and Laulili'i right wing. His side of the field got carved up (he had Faataape as his centre too).

 

[BAGNF05]

Seems like whatever worked in the 1st half didn't work in the 2nd. We're down 42-18 and Jaxson Paulo has scored 4 times

And Jaxon Paulo if we had him would be our best winger by quite a distance unfortunately.

 

[Tom Shines]

End of the day we were lucky it was so close given the Manly kicker missed 8 goals.

Geez ..fair dinkum?

 

[Tom Shines]

The result is hardly surprising. The Blacktown team has 600 games of first grade experience to our 50, 40 of which are from AJ Krapoa.

Manly has incredible depth with guys like Paulo, Arthurs, Sipley, Parker, Schoupp, Humphreys, Condon and Woods ready to step up in case of injury.

Ted… you know who got picked ahead of all those Manly players above to play first grade this week?

Tommy Talau …

You might have heard of him …he played for the Magpies last year…

 

[BlackWhiteGold]

For those who watch, what were the positions? With Fainu listed on wing and tds at prop or makes it hard.
Was valevatu 5/8, Wilson to fullback and Laulilii on wing?

Yes that was correct BB.

Our left was Kepaoa, Taupau Sako & Saukuru, our right was Broederlow, Faataape, Laulilii.

Here are my thoughts ...

- We were playing a side with a tonne of NRL experience across the park while our side's most experienced was Kepaoa.
- Whilst their forwards rolled through our park with momentum & fast PTB, we actually held our own through the middle.
- We got exposed a fair bit on our right side where they seemed to have a continual overlap. In viewing, the use of Matterson as their linkman lock & fullback Faulolo on a sweep caused us the headache in creating an extra man. We just aren't stable or experienced enough in defence on the edges in Cup to deal with this it seems.
- We made Sipley & Faulolo look like superstars when they are no better than high quality experienced NSW Cup players. Sipley is Manly's version of Zane Musgrove & Faulolo just had a day to remember.
- We actually led at HT, yes they were up 4 tries to 3 though. I feel a couple of momentum changes were when Kit Laulilii went off with what appeared a shoulder or upper torso injury & AJ giving away a stupid play the ball penalty.
- At the start of the 2nd half, we only had possession about 3 times in the first 15 mins. Game over! Fatigue sets in for a team so young having to do so much work.
- Whilst Curtis Wilson does some good things in attack, his last line of defence is atrocious. He did not attempt to catch a couple of bombs too which led to a try or tries.
- Two of Blacktown's tries were long-range efforts when we were on the attack. Typical for our club at the moment.
- Saukuru can hold his head up high for the most part, strong in carries, found out in defence for one try, looks like he backs himself as an aerialist too which is good.
- Faataape ok in yardage & attack, struggled in defence on the edge. That performance certainly did not scream out to "pick me" in the NRL.
- Laulilii struggled on the wing against Paulo. Positioning was poor at times & never really threatened in attack.
- Our halves were ordinary compared to Arthur & Humphreys.
- Broederlow was good in carries and some effort plays, was found out once or twice in defence but generally ok. Would love to see him get some good ball from our halves like he has in Flegg from Matai. Hope they let him have an extended run in Cup.
- AJ terrible.
- Sione Fainu was our best, good yardage, good defence, has nice footwork at the line, a good offload, not a middle with leg speed but more footwork, strength & skill. I'm pretty confident he'll be in the 17 after the bye.
- Jordan Miller is getting better & better in attack as he builds fitness & minutes. Defence generally good, however can be found wanting close to the line when having to move laterally.
- TDS was very good. Great for him to get so many minutes & a try. Defence was improved except should have made a better cover tackle attempt on Paulo which he missed by going too high.
- Tumeth was ok when he came on as a middle to replace Kit. Probably better as a middle now, just lacks the size & strength to dominate.
- Not sure why Sukkar & Porter did not play.

If we had better halves & fullback and a more experienced middle rotation in this game, we could have gone close as crazy as that sounds.

 

[KingRobbie]

The Knock On Effect NSW Cup - Round 13 vs. Rabbitohs

Saturday, June 1 - 3:00 p.m. AEST
Redfern Oval, Sydney

WESTERN SUBURBS MAGPIES
1. Curtis Wilson
2. Luke Laulilii
3. Josh Feledy
4. Steven Taupau Sako
5. Solomone Saukuru
6. Declan Casey
7. Noah Ryan
8. Reuben Porter
9. James Valevatu (c)
10. Jordan Miller
11. Lachlan Broederlow
12. Asu Kepaoa
13. Kit Laulilii

14. Bailey Hodges
15. Tony Sukkar
16. Tim Johannssen
17. Zakauri Clarke

18. Jay Kirk
Coach: Aaron Payne

INS: Josh Feledy, Declan Casey, Reuben Porter, Bailey Hodges, Tony Sukkar, Zakauri Clarke

OUTS: Brandon Tumeth (Jersey Flegg), Solomona Faataape, Sione Fainu, Tallyn Da Silva, Raymond Maroun, Josh Finau

 

[WestsEffTheRest]

The Knock On Effect NSW Cup - Round 13 vs. Rabbitohs

Saturday, June 1 - 3:00 p.m. AEST
Redfern Oval, Sydney

WESTERN SUBURBS MAGPIES
1. Curtis Wilson
2. Luke Laulilii
3. Josh Feledy
4. Steven Taupau Sako
5. Solomone Saukuru
6. Declan Casey
7. Noah Ryan
8. Reuben Porter
9. James Valevatu (c)
10. Jordan Miller
11. Lachlan Broederlow
12. Asu Kepaoa
13. Kit Laulilii

14. Bailey Hodges
15. Tony Sukkar
16. Tim Johannssen
17. Zakauri Clarke

18. Jay Kirk
Coach: Aaron Payne

INS: Josh Feledy, Declan Casey, Reuben Porter, Bailey Hodges, Tony Sukkar, Zakauri Clarke

OUTS: Brandon Tumeth (Jersey Flegg), Solomona Faataape, Sione Fainu, Tallyn Da Silva, Raymond Maroun, Josh Finau

Kep didn't get the week off like the rest of the team did Lol

 

[tigertuff]

What's doing with Tallyn. Is he injured again or in Fiji with Benji.

 

[boonboon]

What's doing with Tallyn. Is he injured again or in Fiji with Benji.

I'd assume leave is organised well before the week of the bye and they would have assumed reasonably that Api would be picked for Origin and such Talyn would be playing nrl next week and hence had been granted leave

 

[tiger_one]

 

[Tigers_Wests]

Noah Ryan lazy at marker as the dummy half goes over from close range and we are down 6 nil after 4 minutes.
Absolutely bucketing down.

 

[TV Ted Ellery]

This KOE team is gash. 6-0 down after 3 mins.

 

[TV Ted Ellery]

Wests can't make it out of their 20

 

[TV Ted Ellery]

12-0. I can't stress how bad this team is.

 

[TV Ted Ellery]

Feledy has been horrendous in defence.

 

[Tigers_Wests]

Simple miss from Feledy. Another try. 12 nil. Need to try something more bringing it out of our end. 1 out hit ups and they are getting swamped.

 

[Tigers_Wests]

12-0. I can't stress how bad this team is.

Only thing worse at the moment is the commentators attempt at players names. Dont think he has got one right.

 

[TV Ted Ellery]

Opportunistic try to Feledy as is his style.

 

[Tucker]

Where are you watching this?