Paul Stringer has big wraps on Aspelli Fine...

[balmain boy]

Interesting that those who have coached him say he's the best player on the team. This has been going on for 2-3 years now with Fletcher and now Stringer too. But someone who's never coached him on the field doesn't rate him?

How can those who work closely with him on a regular basis think he has the skill and attitude to excel, yet the top coach simply dismisses him. He's stood out at nsw cup level far more than the likes of Lovett, Milone, Buchanan. Fine has consistently been one of the best on ground when he's played.

Maybe he won't have an awesome NRL career, but he should have been ahead of the likes of Lovett who had proven nothing in comparison.

Probably time for him to leave. If we don't want him surely someone else would take him at least for nsw cup? He was in the team of the year in 2014, and played for Tonga. I doubt there'd be zero interest in him. Can see him excelling at somewhere like Roosters or the Storm for some reason. He can do his job and do it well. Simple no frills player who'll put in 100% every week, and play at full pace in everything he does.

He was at the Roosters and they released him!!

Don't you read other posts?

Huh? No idea what you're on about.

Roosters Sg Ball? So what. Who says they released him rather than him wanting to play NYC with us? Who knows…

 

[jirskyr]

Interesting that those who have coached him say he's the best player on the team. This has been going on for 2-3 years now with Fletcher and now Stringer too. But someone who's never coached him on the field doesn't rate him?

How can those who work closely with him on a regular basis think he has the skill and attitude to excel, yet the top coach simply dismisses him. He's stood out at nsw cup level far more than the likes of Lovett, Milone, Buchanan. Fine has consistently been one of the best on ground when he's played.

Maybe he won't have an awesome NRL career, but he should have been ahead of the likes of Lovett who had proven nothing in comparison.

Probably time for him to leave. If we don't want him surely someone else would take him at least for nsw cup? He was in the team of the year in 2014, and played for Tonga. I doubt there'd be zero interest in him. Can see him excelling at somewhere like Roosters or the Storm for some reason. He can do his job and do it well. Simple no frills player who'll put in 100% every week, and play at full pace in everything he does.

He was at the Roosters and they released him!!

Don't you read other posts?

Huh? No idea what you're on about.

Roosters Sg Ball? So what. Who says they released him rather than him wanting to play NYC with us? Who knows…

No, he played for Roosters NYC 2011 and start of 2012, before they released him to WT. He played out 2012 for Tigers in NYC then transitioned to NSW Cup.

As to why he left Roosters, sure maybe he wanted to play for us. Maybe he had a burning desire to be a Tiger and Roosters could not offer anything to dull that fire.

But I'm lead to believe in many posts on here that players don't really want to come to Tigers and Roosters "never miss their man".

 

[batboy]

Asipeli is just another in the long line of great quality reserve grade 2nd rowers that have come through Both Sides of the Club. Good player and a hell of a nice fella - Maybe too nice….
It's hard to say exactly what he is missing to take the next step up, If anything I'd say it's maybe urgency...
TBH - Outside Gareth Ellis, I don't think we've ever had a standout back rower - Plenty of toilers, Who went over and above every week, A few kids that could have been anything (For one reason or another weren't) and plenty of Guys who are loved and rated by the fans - But that's about it.
It's never been any different and seems to filter through both senior grades.

There are a few brighter prospects in the 20's, Hopefully this next crop finally delivers.

 

[Tiger_Watto]

Asipeli is just another in the long line of great quality reserve grade 2nd rowers that have come through Both Sides of the Club. Good player and a hell of a nice fella - Maybe too nice….
It's hard to say exactly what he is missing to take the next step up, If anything I'd say it's maybe urgency...
TBH - Outside Gareth Ellis, I don't think we've ever had a standout back rower - Plenty of toilers, Who went over and above every week, A few kids that could have been anything (For one reason or another weren't) and plenty of Guys who are loved and rated by the fans - But that's about it.
It's never been any different and seems to filter through both senior grades.

There are a few brighter prospects in the 20's, Hopefully this next crop finally delivers.

Pretty much agree… Outside of Ellis we have always lacked a standout backrower.

I reckon Lawrence might make the jump in class with another year there and I get a good feeling about Bailey Sironen's energy & skill-set.

 

[Tiger_Watto]

I think its was great to send our reserve grade boys to this tournament for an early hit-out. Good to see them dig in and get the best possible result.

But lets remember this was a 3rd grade tournament and not get too excited re NRL selection.

I'd say the boys who played know they will be in Reggies for most of the year, and will only get a look in if injury strikes. In previous years, it seemed like the Reserve Grade Squad was only assembled after all the Trials were finished, and was a big contributor to there traditional slow starts to the year.

Hopefully this will spur the boys on this weekend in NZ… Fire Up Tigers!!!

 

[jirskyr]

Asipeli is just another in the long line of great quality reserve grade 2nd rowers that have come through Both Sides of the Club. Good player and a hell of a nice fella - Maybe too nice….
It's hard to say exactly what he is missing to take the next step up, If anything I'd say it's maybe urgency...
TBH - Outside Gareth Ellis, I don't think we've ever had a standout back rower - Plenty of toilers, Who went over and above every week, A few kids that could have been anything (For one reason or another weren't) and plenty of Guys who are loved and rated by the fans - But that's about it.
It's never been any different and seems to filter through both senior grades.

There are a few brighter prospects in the 20's, Hopefully this next crop finally delivers.

Pretty much agree… Outside of Ellis we have always lacked a standout backrower.

I reckon Lawrence might make the jump in class with another year there and I get a good feeling about Bailey Sironen's energy & skill-set.

I think everyone thought poor Dwyer was a good percentage of the way to being that next standout. I often wonder how the team would had Dwyer and Tuiaki not been hurt and instead played out long careers.

 

[batboy]

I find myself sitting back often and waiting for the Dwyer card to get played…..
For mine, He mostly played at prop off the bench (A sheenius move)

When he was starting back rower he had a long way to go in Defence, Him and Lui together on the same side was a nightmare!!
- To be realistic, He is remembered for that one hit...

That said, He DID have a pot load of potential and, Well... Y'all know the rest!!

TBH - Our best back row was the first one in 2000\. Crackers, Tyran and the often overlooked Mark Stimson. They had plenty of attitude and desire... Along with the Props of Walker and Lowrie.
Unfortunately, Back then we had the motor - But not a lot of flash at the back (Unless Craigie decided to turn it on)

 

[ricksen]

Asipeli is just another in the long line of great quality reserve grade 2nd rowers that have come through Both Sides of the Club. Good player and a hell of a nice fella - Maybe too nice….
It's hard to say exactly what he is missing to take the next step up, If anything I'd say it's maybe urgency...
TBH - Outside Gareth Ellis, I don't think we've ever had a standout back rower - Plenty of toilers, Who went over and above every week, A few kids that could have been anything (For one reason or another weren't) and plenty of Guys who are loved and rated by the fans - But that's about it.
It's never been any different and seems to filter through both senior grades.

There are a few brighter prospects in the 20's, Hopefully this next crop finally delivers.

Pretty much agree… Outside of Ellis we have always lacked a standout backrower.

I reckon Lawrence might make the jump in class with another year there and I get a good feeling about Bailey Sironen's energy & skill-set.

I think everyone thought poor Dwyer was a good percentage of the way to being that next standout. I often wonder how the team would had Dwyer and Tuiaki not been hurt and instead played out long careers.

A ridiculously selective example, but imagine Tuiaki on the end of that break at the very end of the prelim final back in 2010 (as opposed to Beau Ryan).

 

[batboy]

knowing Sheens - Tuiaki would have been playing back up hooker off the bench by then.

 

[jirskyr]

I find myself sitting back often and waiting for the Dwyer card to get played…..
For mine, He mostly played at prop off the bench (A sheenius move)

When he was starting back rower he had a long way to go in Defence, Him and Lui together on the same side was a nightmare!!
- To be realistic, He is remembered for that one hit...

That said, He DID have a pot load of potential and, Well... Y'all know the rest!!

TBH - Our best back row was the first one in 2000\. Crackers, Tyran and the often overlooked Mark Stimson. They had plenty of attitude and desire... Along with the Props of Walker and Lowrie.
Unfortunately, Back then we had the motor - But not a lot of flash at the back (Unless Craigie decided to turn it on)

I did agree totally. Yeah he missed a few in defence, but in 2010 and 2011 he was really dangerous on the right side, with Ellis on the left. He got picked for City and I felt he was really coming on as a dangerous footballer.

To compare to Rob Lui as a turnstile tho - not that bad!

 

[Harvey]

Though i'd also heard Madness played very well in the 9s.

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BB,Stringer also gave McConnachie a huge wrap,he said madness played very well during the Memorial nines,I certainly hope we see him take the field in the FG team at some stage..Although some say he is a bit behind fitness wise,I think he is a machine in attack and defense,I hope he gets the opportunity to run on the field in FG…

Is interesting in how they measure fitness. Beep tests do not involve hitting an being hit and often players that excel in tests, do not show the same stamina on the paddock. Some players just build their fitness through playing regularly & hopefully that is the case for madness.

 

[batboy]

I find myself sitting back often and waiting for the Dwyer card to get played…..
For mine, He mostly played at prop off the bench (A sheenius move)

When he was starting back rower he had a long way to go in Defence, Him and Lui together on the same side was a nightmare!!
- To be realistic, He is remembered for that one hit...

That said, He DID have a pot load of potential and, Well... Y'all know the rest!!

TBH - Our best back row was the first one in 2000\. Crackers, Tyran and the often overlooked Mark Stimson. They had plenty of attitude and desire... Along with the Props of Walker and Lowrie.
Unfortunately, Back then we had the motor - But not a lot of flash at the back (Unless Craigie decided to turn it on)

I did agree totally. Yeah he missed a few in defence, but in 2010 and 2011 he was really dangerous on the right side, with Ellis on the left. He got picked for City and I felt he was really coming on as a dangerous footballer.

To compare to Rob Lui as a turnstile tho - not that bad!

Ahhhhh…... Time makes the heart grow fonder, Doesn't it.
Our starting back row (When fit) for 2010 and 11 was Fulton, Heigington and Ellis. Payton was also there abouts for most of that.
Dwyer played out wide only on the rare occasion...
Yeah, He was picked for City - And I think he got MOM (I may be wrong) But so have countless others... Bryce Gibbs, Liam Fulton etc... No one outside WT's fans would really rave about them.

As I said, Dwyer had potential and played some decent footy for us - I don't think we would have gone much different for the last 5 years with him though...

 

[happy_tiger]

I find myself sitting back often and waiting for the Dwyer card to get played…..
For mine, He mostly played at prop off the bench (A sheenius move)

When he was starting back rower he had a long way to go in Defence, Him and Lui together on the same side was a nightmare!!
- To be realistic, He is remembered for that one hit...

That said, He DID have a pot load of potential and, Well... Y'all know the rest!!

TBH - Our best back row was the first one in 2000\. Crackers, Tyran and the often overlooked Mark Stimson. They had plenty of attitude and desire... Along with the Props of Walker and Lowrie.
Unfortunately, Back then we had the motor - But not a lot of flash at the back (Unless Craigie decided to turn it on)

I did agree totally. Yeah he missed a few in defence, but in 2010 and 2011 he was really dangerous on the right side, with Ellis on the left. He got picked for City and I felt he was really coming on as a dangerous footballer.

To compare to Rob Lui as a turnstile tho - not that bad!

Ahhhhh…... Time makes the heart grow fonder, Doesn't it.
Our starting back row (When fit) for 2010 and 11 was Fulton, Heigington and Ellis. Payton was also there abouts for most of that.
Dwyer played out wide only on the rare occasion...
Yeah, He was picked for City - And I think he got MOM (I may be wrong) But so have countless others... Bryce Gibbs, Liam Fulton etc... No one outside WT's fans would really rave about them.

As I said, Dwyer had potential and played some decent footy for us - I don't think we would have gone much different for the last 5 years with him though...

Ellis had a lot of time off injured and Dwyer was just starting to come to terms with playing big minutes and improving his motor

Many people could see the very obvious potential in Dwyer , by the stage he got injured his tackle count would of been around the mid 30's

If he was available in 2016 he would be the 1st back rower picked every week by the length of Conrod Straight

 

[batboy]

Don't disagree with you happy…

Fair chance IF he was available he wouldn't be playing with us.... Club still would be in a terrible spot!!

 

[Tigerdon]

Asipeli is just another in the long line of great quality reserve grade 2nd rowers that have come through Both Sides of the Club. Good player and a hell of a nice fella - Maybe too nice….
It's hard to say exactly what he is missing to take the next step up, If anything I'd say it's maybe urgency...
TBH - Outside Gareth Ellis, I don't think we've ever had a standout back rower - Plenty of toilers, Who went over and above every week, A few kids that could have been anything (For one reason or another weren't) and plenty of Guys who are loved and rated by the fans - But that's about it.
It's never been any different and seems to filter through both senior grades.

There are a few brighter prospects in the 20's, Hopefully this next crop finally delivers.

Pretty much agree… Outside of Ellis we have always lacked a standout backrower.

I reckon Lawrence might make the jump in class with another year there and I get a good feeling about Bailey Sironen's energy & skill-set.

I think everyone thought poor Dwyer was a good percentage of the way to being that next standout. I often wonder how the team would had Dwyer and Tuiaki not been hurt and instead played out long careers.

A ridiculously selective example, but imagine Tuiaki on the end of that break at the very end of the prelim final back in 2010 (as opposed to Beau Ryan).

Bonstoker put a great tribute of Tuiaki together..
http://youtu.be/ZOTW0QNCqIo

 

[ryanda01]

Bonstoker put a great tribute of Tuiaki together..
http://youtu.be/ZOTW0QNCqIo

Could only get through 2:41 before I had to switch it off. To think of what could have been. Didn't want to sit through another 6 minutes of brilliance.

 

[Tigerdave]

I think we would have gone closer or even won in 2010 and 2011, that was a cruel injury at the very least he would have tasted some finals footy…............I think he would have been unstoppable though.

 

[Tigerdon]

Bonstoker put a great tribute of Tuiaki together..
http://youtu.be/ZOTW0QNCqIo

Could only get through 2:41 before I had to switch it off. To think of what could have been. Didn't want to sit through another 6 minutes of brilliance.

I pretty much did the same. Back then, every time Tuiaki got the ball I remember thinking this is either going to be a try or a defender is going to have to have to hold on for deer life.

 

[happy_tiger]

Asipeli is just another in the long line of great quality reserve grade 2nd rowers that have come through Both Sides of the Club. Good player and a hell of a nice fella - Maybe too nice….
It's hard to say exactly what he is missing to take the next step up, If anything I'd say it's maybe urgency...
TBH - Outside Gareth Ellis, I don't think we've ever had a standout back rower - Plenty of toilers, Who went over and above every week, A few kids that could have been anything (For one reason or another weren't) and plenty of Guys who are loved and rated by the fans - But that's about it.
It's never been any different and seems to filter through both senior grades.

There are a few brighter prospects in the 20's, Hopefully this next crop finally delivers.

Pretty much agree… Outside of Ellis we have always lacked a standout backrower.

I reckon Lawrence might make the jump in class with another year there and I get a good feeling about Bailey Sironen's energy & skill-set.

Payten ,Laffranchi ,O'Donnell ,Ben Galea, Liam Fulton ,Dwyer don't cut it lads ??

 

[Goose]

Asipeli is just another in the long line of great quality reserve grade 2nd rowers that have come through Both Sides of the Club. Good player and a hell of a nice fella - Maybe too nice….
It's hard to say exactly what he is missing to take the next step up, If anything I'd say it's maybe urgency...
TBH - Outside Gareth Ellis, I don't think we've ever had a standout back rower - Plenty of toilers, Who went over and above every week, A few kids that could have been anything (For one reason or another weren't) and plenty of Guys who are loved and rated by the fans - But that's about it.
It's never been any different and seems to filter through both senior grades.

There are a few brighter prospects in the 20's, Hopefully this next crop finally delivers.

Pretty much agree… Outside of Ellis we have always lacked a standout backrower.

I reckon Lawrence might make the jump in class with another year there and I get a good feeling about Bailey Sironen's energy & skill-set.

Payten ,Laffranchi ,O'Donnell ,Ben Galea, Liam Fulton ,Dwyer don't cut it lads ??

add in Tyran Smith, Mark O'Neil and Terry Hill (who was great in the backrow for us) from the early days.

Bayley Sironen is going great. The move to the backrow has been great for him, last year he really kicked on, I had massive doubts. I always knew he'd be a fan favourite, has a massive crack, fans love that, but it was he is incisive running lines that took me by surprise, looked good last year.

He'll have to keep improving, but he could be a handy first grader.

On backrowers, there is a kid at the Roosters, played in the 9's, Nat Butcher, I think he is a superstar in the making. I hate making these comparisons, but reminds me of Ben Kennedy.