Newy_Tiger
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Could he have played his last game for us? I hope not imo he is one of the most underrated forwards in the game.
Payto gone?
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Frazer4Wests
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i CONCEED.
nOT A SMOKE SCREEN ,I WAS WRONG MY SOURSE IS UNREALIABLE.
sorry folks.
nOT A SMOKE SCREEN ,I WAS WRONG MY SOURSE IS UNREALIABLE.
sorry folks.
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alien
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@wadeburger said:
stuff the gods. we can still win
habibsta33
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which forward is now going to be the one that runs to the line and pops the ball at the last minute for marshall to create the overlap and put our outside backs to score in the corners? toddy does it PERFECTLY and it is the reason we score most our tires. without him im afraid our attack inside the 40 is going to lose some if its gloss and we might struggle to score against such a good defensive team in the dragons
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alien
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they'll work something out at training
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system
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@habibsta33 said:
Heighno and Gibbs have been alot more involved in ball playing this year and both are adept
supercoach
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Fulton will be the ball playing forward
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tigertiger10
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Todd said on channel 10 news that his confident he will be right for grand final if we make it. Then he rated his chances 50/50 and has spoken to Pat Richards on what to do to get it right. Come on boys lets win it and get Toddy right
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Injured Wests Tigers forward Todd Payten will seek advice from 2005 premiership team-mate Pat Richards as part of his audacious bid to be fit for the NRL grand final.
Payten's season appeared over after suffering ligament damage to his right ankle at training on Wednesday, but positive scans have revealed he's a chance should the Tigers get past St George Illawarra in Saturday night's preliminary final.
Back in the Tigers' only premiership season in `05, flying winger Richards suffered a severe ankle injury at a similar time and raced the clock in a moon boot to be fit for the big one.
Payten suffered the heartbreaking injury when he stood on a mesh bag filled with tennis and golf balls, but was relieved to be told he hadn't done any structural damage and there was hope of a comeback.
As well as feeding off Richards, the 247-game forward also has his own experience of quick recovery - Payten tore his hamstring the Tuesday before the `05 decider, but remarkably made it onto the field for the night of his life.
"If we make the grand final, I'll be doing everything in my power to make sure I'm fit," Payten told AAP.
"The first three or four days are pretty crucial and I've been looking after it and doing all the right things so fingers crossed.
"Patty Richards did something pretty similar in `05 and I tore my hamstring on the Tuesday before the grand final so we spent most of that week in the hyperbaric chamber together and going to and from physio sessions.
"I've got a couple of text messages from Pat but I'll give him a call tonight and see what other tips he can give me."
Coach Tim Sheens is leaning towards giving evergreen prop John Skandalis a call-up this week, and Payten is confident the Tigers can do the job against the Dragons in his absence.
"I don't know if it was shock, but I just didn't really believe it yesterday," said Payten, who is also anxiously waiting on his partner Julie to give birth.
"If we win or we don't win, it's going to heal pretty quickly so I'm just doing everything right and being pretty prudent with my recovery so I'm a chance of next week."
Coach Sheens said the Tigers needed to move on from the disappointment of losing Payten for Saturday, and admitted Skandalis' experience would probably get him the nod ahead of younger candidates.
The 34-year-old Skandalis retired from professional football two years ago but, despite not being part of the Tigers top 25 over the past two seasons, has still kept fit and played 19 matches.
Skandalis injured his buttocks in the round-25 win over Melbourne and was expected to miss the rest of the season, but it seems the evergreen prop will receive yet another call-up and a chance at a second premiership.
"The side will get on without (Payten) … but he's a leader amongst the forwards so the younger guys will have to step up," Sheens said.
"I can't get rid of the guy (Skandalis). He's the sort of guy you know you can rely on in the trenches, so in a game like this, there's no doubt we're leaning there, it's just a matter of whether he's quite fit enough."
Source- nrl.com
Payten's season appeared over after suffering ligament damage to his right ankle at training on Wednesday, but positive scans have revealed he's a chance should the Tigers get past St George Illawarra in Saturday night's preliminary final.
Back in the Tigers' only premiership season in `05, flying winger Richards suffered a severe ankle injury at a similar time and raced the clock in a moon boot to be fit for the big one.
Payten suffered the heartbreaking injury when he stood on a mesh bag filled with tennis and golf balls, but was relieved to be told he hadn't done any structural damage and there was hope of a comeback.
As well as feeding off Richards, the 247-game forward also has his own experience of quick recovery - Payten tore his hamstring the Tuesday before the `05 decider, but remarkably made it onto the field for the night of his life.
"If we make the grand final, I'll be doing everything in my power to make sure I'm fit," Payten told AAP.
"The first three or four days are pretty crucial and I've been looking after it and doing all the right things so fingers crossed.
"Patty Richards did something pretty similar in `05 and I tore my hamstring on the Tuesday before the grand final so we spent most of that week in the hyperbaric chamber together and going to and from physio sessions.
"I've got a couple of text messages from Pat but I'll give him a call tonight and see what other tips he can give me."
Coach Tim Sheens is leaning towards giving evergreen prop John Skandalis a call-up this week, and Payten is confident the Tigers can do the job against the Dragons in his absence.
"I don't know if it was shock, but I just didn't really believe it yesterday," said Payten, who is also anxiously waiting on his partner Julie to give birth.
"If we win or we don't win, it's going to heal pretty quickly so I'm just doing everything right and being pretty prudent with my recovery so I'm a chance of next week."
Coach Sheens said the Tigers needed to move on from the disappointment of losing Payten for Saturday, and admitted Skandalis' experience would probably get him the nod ahead of younger candidates.
The 34-year-old Skandalis retired from professional football two years ago but, despite not being part of the Tigers top 25 over the past two seasons, has still kept fit and played 19 matches.
Skandalis injured his buttocks in the round-25 win over Melbourne and was expected to miss the rest of the season, but it seems the evergreen prop will receive yet another call-up and a chance at a second premiership.
"The side will get on without (Payten) … but he's a leader amongst the forwards so the younger guys will have to step up," Sheens said.
"I can't get rid of the guy (Skandalis). He's the sort of guy you know you can rely on in the trenches, so in a game like this, there's no doubt we're leaning there, it's just a matter of whether he's quite fit enough."
Source- nrl.com
@innsaneink said:
Too easy
Thats $30 you owe me now.
@supercoach said:
Wests will also need him and the others to step up defensively. Out of all the forwards, i'd like to see Fulton defend in the middle corridor with Gibbo to fill the void of Payten's effectiveness when shutting down second phase play and an attacking raid from the ruck area. Fulton's D is rock solid. Push Dwyer out to the right edge if need be. Tighten up that middle Tigers in honour of the Big Hombré
@Golden said:
Youre fullov sjrt
You could push your point for a winger over a prop
Props play less minutes
Props dont utilise speed, wingers do
Props rarely utilise footwork, wingers do
Props dont jump/land for high balls. wingers do
Its not the position they play, or the affected area….its the individuals that only count here
Tiger_Watto
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@Gobbs said:
I don't think I have ever read a post on here which interprets the defensive pattern as good/clear as that…
Great interpretation Gobbs!!!
Paris_Cobbs
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Deja Vu - Payto was in doubt for the 05 Grand Final and the decision to play him was made only about an hour out from gametime, I think. That's why Bronson didn't play.
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Glimmer of hope has Payten switching on the plasma to get back into the grand final picture
Glenn Jackson
September 24, 2010
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BUOYED by an encouraging scan result, Wests Tigers forward Todd Payten will today turn to the controversial PRP blood treatment process in a bid to mend his injured ankle in time for a grand final just eight days away.
Scans taken yesterday confirmed Payten had not broken his ankle, leaving ligament damage as his most serious concern.
The injury, which came in a freak training mishap on Wednesday, will keep him out of the Tigers' side for the preliminary final against St George Illawarra tomorrow night but Payten said he would be doing everything possible to take the field on Sunday week if his team makes it that far.
''There's a chance,'' Payten said. ''The doctor has said I won't be able to do any training until late next week but he can needle me up for the last session. If all goes to plan, I'll be right to play.''
That plan now involves platelet-rich plasma therapy, which helped Parramatta five-eighth Daniel Mortimer take the field at the corresponding stage of last season despite a hip problem. The therapy involves blood being withdrawn, then treated using a centrifuge and re-injected with an increased concentration of platelets - rich in healing properties.
Tigers doctor Donald Kuah said of the treatment, which has been used by golfers Tiger Woods and John Daly to aid recovery: ''We're going to give it a roll. It's really meant for a four-week period [of recovery] but one week - I don't know. It's still going to be an uphill battle for him.''
That said, Payten maintained the MRI scan results yesterday were the ''best I could have hoped for''. ''I've done the ligaments on the inside and the outside of the ankle, and the bone's chipped away from one side. But there's no structural damage,'' he said, speaking by phone from inside a hyperbaric chamber, another component of his recovery process. ''They've given me a cortisone injection. [Today] I'll have the PRP injection, and then I'll be icing it and in the hyperbaric chamber every day.''
Payten said he rolled his ankle on a bag of balls which were on the field at Concord Oval to mark out a training drill - a mishap he described as a ''total accident''. ''It was just a little mesh bag with a couple of tennis balls and a couple of golf balls in it,'' Payten said. ''We were doing sprint drills and I was on my back and I got up and started running and I just trod on it. I sort of rolled it front-ways as well as to the side.
''I knew straight away I was in a bit of trouble. It just happened so quickly. One second I was sprinting, and the next I was lying on the ground writhing around in pain thinking, 'This is surely not happening'. It felt like a bit of a dream at first.
''I was still in a bit of shock [on Wednesday night]. I was all over the shop. I really couldn't believe it was happening. But I iced it all night and it sunk in [yesterday]. I know the next few days are going to be pretty crucial, so I just want to get it right.''
Payten is no stranger to anguish in grand-final week. He kept a hamstring injury largely secret after pulling up lame on the Tuesday before the 2005 grand final - before taking the field and scoring the final try in the Tigers' win over North Queensland.
Payten's attempts to be fit for an unlikely grand-final appearance have been further complicated by the fact that his partner Julie is heavily pregnant.
Tigers coach Tim Sheens said the players felt for their stricken teammate but had no choice but to turn their focus towards tomorrow night's clash at ANZ Stadium.
''From the team's point of view we've got to move on but from Toddy's point of view, I feel sorry for him,'' Sheens said.
Glenn Jackson
September 24, 2010
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BUOYED by an encouraging scan result, Wests Tigers forward Todd Payten will today turn to the controversial PRP blood treatment process in a bid to mend his injured ankle in time for a grand final just eight days away.
Scans taken yesterday confirmed Payten had not broken his ankle, leaving ligament damage as his most serious concern.
The injury, which came in a freak training mishap on Wednesday, will keep him out of the Tigers' side for the preliminary final against St George Illawarra tomorrow night but Payten said he would be doing everything possible to take the field on Sunday week if his team makes it that far.
''There's a chance,'' Payten said. ''The doctor has said I won't be able to do any training until late next week but he can needle me up for the last session. If all goes to plan, I'll be right to play.''
That plan now involves platelet-rich plasma therapy, which helped Parramatta five-eighth Daniel Mortimer take the field at the corresponding stage of last season despite a hip problem. The therapy involves blood being withdrawn, then treated using a centrifuge and re-injected with an increased concentration of platelets - rich in healing properties.
Tigers doctor Donald Kuah said of the treatment, which has been used by golfers Tiger Woods and John Daly to aid recovery: ''We're going to give it a roll. It's really meant for a four-week period [of recovery] but one week - I don't know. It's still going to be an uphill battle for him.''
That said, Payten maintained the MRI scan results yesterday were the ''best I could have hoped for''. ''I've done the ligaments on the inside and the outside of the ankle, and the bone's chipped away from one side. But there's no structural damage,'' he said, speaking by phone from inside a hyperbaric chamber, another component of his recovery process. ''They've given me a cortisone injection. [Today] I'll have the PRP injection, and then I'll be icing it and in the hyperbaric chamber every day.''
Payten said he rolled his ankle on a bag of balls which were on the field at Concord Oval to mark out a training drill - a mishap he described as a ''total accident''. ''It was just a little mesh bag with a couple of tennis balls and a couple of golf balls in it,'' Payten said. ''We were doing sprint drills and I was on my back and I got up and started running and I just trod on it. I sort of rolled it front-ways as well as to the side.
''I knew straight away I was in a bit of trouble. It just happened so quickly. One second I was sprinting, and the next I was lying on the ground writhing around in pain thinking, 'This is surely not happening'. It felt like a bit of a dream at first.
''I was still in a bit of shock [on Wednesday night]. I was all over the shop. I really couldn't believe it was happening. But I iced it all night and it sunk in [yesterday]. I know the next few days are going to be pretty crucial, so I just want to get it right.''
Payten is no stranger to anguish in grand-final week. He kept a hamstring injury largely secret after pulling up lame on the Tuesday before the 2005 grand final - before taking the field and scoring the final try in the Tigers' win over North Queensland.
Payten's attempts to be fit for an unlikely grand-final appearance have been further complicated by the fact that his partner Julie is heavily pregnant.
Tigers coach Tim Sheens said the players felt for their stricken teammate but had no choice but to turn their focus towards tomorrow night's clash at ANZ Stadium.
''From the team's point of view we've got to move on but from Toddy's point of view, I feel sorry for him,'' Sheens said.
