tony soprano
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He chipped and chase
Peachey
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He chipped and chase
earl
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He was and I'd still drop him. That attitude was disgusting. The lack of discipline is why we performed so poorly and he was a major contributor to the issue. He definitely shouldn't be captain and he should cop it.
A talented player who could help us if he had his head on right but I worry his attitude will bring the whole club down.
Really?
It.looked.to.me.like something a 9yo would do
I had a few Indigenous / Polynesian coaches who were convinced that a laugh when you do something dumb and moving on is better than getting dragged down with negative thoughts for the rest of the game.
Personally I don't care how a bloke responds immediately to a mistake, but how they respond over the next few plays.
Everyone is different.
Personally I don't care how a bloke responds immediately to a mistake, but how they respond over the next few plays.
Everyone is different.
He was terrible. Really bad. As were many in the team. But as someone who deals with people who are neurodiverse not everyone responds to stress and shame (as in, I just stuffed up) the same way. Agree it is not a good look to smile and laugh, because for so long we've associated passion and commitment with 'stony face' or 'aggressive face' but we can't know what is going on inside an athlete's head.
My psych, who's an Oz expert, reckons a very high proportion of elite football players have ADHD or similar because of how the condition gives you attributes that while they make life hard in real life, actually give benefits in sport and other creative fields eg lack of impulse control, and being able to seeing multiple possibilities at the same time etc. But neurodiverse people don't often respond emotionally to stress and setbacks like others.
I'm not diagnosing Peachey, and anyway, I've gone on too long, and it's probably just smiling. But just putting it out there, you don't know how he's feeling.
My psych, who's an Oz expert, reckons a very high proportion of elite football players have ADHD or similar because of how the condition gives you attributes that while they make life hard in real life, actually give benefits in sport and other creative fields eg lack of impulse control, and being able to seeing multiple possibilities at the same time etc. But neurodiverse people don't often respond emotionally to stress and setbacks like others.
I'm not diagnosing Peachey, and anyway, I've gone on too long, and it's probably just smiling. But just putting it out there, you don't know how he's feeling.
earl
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I'm not getting upset about the smiling at that point of time although it was poor. It didn't impact the game. His lack of discipline when he committed a professional foul though was terrible. If we play with that lack of discipline in any game this year we will lose that game.
We have to get that stuff out of our game.
earl
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If madden is at 7 it might work.
Come on, he’s not a half and never will be
stryker 69
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This is a good point.
I have a friend who smiles and makes light of very serious situations…I even had a run in with him at a wake years ago when he said stuff that seemed highly inappropriate.
People react differently to stress and pressure.
That said, Peachey certainly appeared to be skylarking to me.
Thats the sort of thing you would do if you were winning well, to get yourself in the highlights package, not when the team is playing poorly and you’ve just stuffed up.
crazycat
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Yea agreed.
It seemed like Willie Mason playing in SOO. Brad Fitler coached in various behaviour techniques and added Fun to the process. Why? to keep the players at the right level of pressure.
Too little pressure people under-perform.
Too much pressure and people boil over.
Bellamy keeps the pressure and intensity high, he needs an offsider to ease things back.
Wayne Bennett and Haslier know when to turn pressure down.
I remember the sharks under Stuart and coming 16th. People were asking players how they felt loosing and they were saying they were loving it.
not loosing.
but the playing environment.
Obviously if you are getting done and loving it something is wrong.
But if your thinking, "stuff the scoreline, I need to be making my tackles and adding to this team." Then that is the right attitude. Clearly that's not our attitude.
Earlier on we had a choice between Dale Finucane and TPJ. We choose to pursue TPJ based on muscle, Cronulla chose Finucane due to leadership. I see now we made the wrong choice.
TieDye
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Great posts Fults, mate, welcome back legend.
Unrelated but I coached one of my son's teams in about the under 14s one year. He was a rep player but a bit naive. One day he came off after a batting and said "Dad, what's a MILF?" I said "why are you asking". He said "all the time I was batting the 'keeper kept on saying you've got a MILF mate".
I loved his naivety that day.
Incredibly unimpressed with Peachy.
