Phil Gould is the man to lead NSW out of Origin oblivion

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Phil Gould is the man to lead NSW out of Origin oblivion
Phil Rothfield Sports Editor-at-large From: The Daily Telegraph June 18, 2010 12:00AM

I DON'T have a lot of time for Phil Gould as a media commentator because he's too bitter and too negative.

But in NSW's most desperate hour, there is no one better qualified to step in to save the Blues from further embarrassment. If NSW v Queensland was a boxing contest, the fight would have been stopped two years ago.

Our state, which was once so proudly superior to Queensland, is now at its lowest point in 100 years - beaten, bruised and battered by arguably the greatest rugby league team ever assembled.

So here's how we fix it.

**Phil Gould**

There is a theory that Gus keeps downplaying an Origin comeback because he's too clever to do it against such a brilliant Queensland side.

He has outstanding winning percentages, so why would he risk his record and reputation when it's clear the Maroons will have an edge for at least another couple of years while the Blues rebuild?

Gould has always ruled out a comeback because he has no confidence in the current NSWRL administration, headed by Geoff Carr and Colin Love.

But I put it to Carr yesterday about creating a full-time position - a NSW State of Origin director of coaching - to oversee our entire campaign.

Put Gould in charge of the whole operation, pay him a decent salary, and let him appoint the coach, the selectors, the managers and the entire staff.

"We'll do a full review at the end of the series," Carr said. "We'll open it up to suggestions and I wouldn't rule anything out. Gus is the most successful coach in NSW history but he has said categorically that he won't get involved again.

"But if we do the review, and there's an outcome that he should be approached, I wouldn't have a problem doing that. Everyone's looking for a kneejerk reaction but that won't be happening.

"When the series is over we'll sit down and calmly work through all the issues and come up with a game plan for our future."

Gould's boss at Channel Nine, David Gyngell, told The Daily Telegraph last night that he would support any moves for his high-profile commentator to again coach the Blues.

"I wouldn't stand in his way," Gyngell said. "He's the only one who could do it. They have better players than us for at least the next few years. We need the best game plan to beat them and that can only come from Gus, not to mention his ability to lift them."

**The coach**

Craig Bellamy offered to quit after the game on Wednesday night. I've said all along he only had the job because he won premierships on the back of salary cap rorting at Melbourne Storm.

He's been unable to get the team up for three years and his tactics on Wednesday night were not only baffling but lacked creativity.

The Maroons kept a very simple and disciplined straight line of defence that was never seriously threatened.

Des Hasler and John Cartwright are out of the running because the Maroons have shown us that having a non-club coach like Mal Meninga is the only way to go.

**The players**

Queensland have a team of seasoned champions in Billy Slater, Israel Folau, Greg Inglis, Darren Lockyer, Johnathan Thurston and Cameron Smith.

Even if they are injured, the Maroons have Dally M leader Darius Boyd to move to full-back, Scott Prince to play five-eighth, Cooper Cronk at halfback and Matt Ballin to go to hooker.

In comparison, NSW have a team of good club players who continually crack under the pressure of Origin football.

The Dragons players are an example. Brett Morris, Matt Cooper, Beau Scott, Ben Creagh and Michael Weyman are always outstanding in the NRL, but put them up another level and they struggle. Probably only one NSW player would make the Queensland team - Paul Gallen at lock for Ashley Harrison.

A number of NSW players have probably played their last games for the state.

Why pick old stagers Nathan Hindmarsh, Trent Barrett or Matt Cooper for the final game? Surely Creagh and Trent Waterhouse have had enough chances.

**The selectors**

There is huge pressure on the selectors to be sacked. Over the past five years, the Blues have used 62 players because of injuries and poor form.

That includes 12 different players in the halves since 2006\. Mitchell Pearce and Barrett were the seventh different combination in the past seven games.

Next time, under a new coach, they have to get the combination right and stick with it.

**Team camp**

The Blues' preparation for Wednesday night was probably the worst ever.

That's saying something when you consider the horse-riding falls under Wayne Pearce and the atrocities at team bonding sessions over the years, one of which led to Gould quitting in 2004.

Team managers Craig Young and Chris Johns are under pressure to stand down at the end of the series after the Andrew Johns-Timana Tahu racism row and the sloppiness on game day when Jarryd Hayne and Michael Ennis missed the team bus and had to get a taxi to the game.

**The future**

There is no point throwing our arms up in the air and saying that Queensland are too good.

We need to form a long-term plan under Gould that involves the brightest young football talent in the state.

Players like Josh Dugan, Michael Jennings, the Morris twins, Chris Lawrence, Trent Hodkinson and Pearce must be nurtured. NSW needs to develop a culture that embraces the Blues' FOGs.

We need to develop an attitude and brand of footy that defines our state. Then maybe we'll boast a dynasty of our own.
 
I'd love to see Gould coach the team.

I know he reckons he never will,but once the independent thingee gets away and if they give him huge coin and make him sole selector I reckon he would do it.

Here is the side Gould will pick.

Galloway
Farah
Snowden
Heighington
O'Donnell
Gallen
Pearce
Sutton
Morris
Jennings
Lawrence
Uate
Hayne

There is a cracking 1-13….all in form.

All in there proper playing positions.

Good team Gus.
 
Gould has stated for the last 3 years that Dean Young should have replaced Buderus as Origin hooker.

I do not doubt his passion but I do not know if Gould tactics are what is required to beat the current Maroons side.

Couldn't hurt I guess.

Oh and Uate is not elligible as he played for Fiji last year and is not Hayne so has to sit out the exclusion period
 
Phil Gould is not the messiah people…...

He is an "after the fact" reactionary commentator- and I have no doubt he'll be one as a coach, he would turn the whole thing into a circus about himself.

His favourite saying is " I've been saying this for years"....he never says it before an event takes place. There are literally 100's of examples of this and I'd suspect that every person on this forum would have heard him come up with one of these gems and rolled their eyes at least 10 times.

He did it on Wednesday night...before the game he was doing one of his Origin puff-up pieces and at the end of his rant yelled into the microphone " Get your hands of the trophy Queensland supporters...this aint over yet...in fact it's just starting."

5 minutes later he started his attacks on the team selected and the tactics used afte JT sliced through the backline and put Ingliss over. I laughed my head off!!!

Gus Gould isn't the answer people, these days he's little more than a very eloquent reporter....after an event has taken place he is very good at telling us what has just taken place. Nothing more.
 
stryker that is one of the more ridiculous posts ive read…...even more so then some of the doozies ive put on this forum......
 
@smeghead said:
Gould has stated for the last 3 years that Dean Young should have replaced Buderus as Origin hooker.

I do not doubt his passion but I do not know if Gould tactics are what is required to beat the current Maroons side.

Couldn't hurt I guess.

Oh and Uate is not elligible as he played for Fiji last year and is not Hayne so has to sit out the exclusion period

I heard somewhere that Uate has to wait 2 years after he played for Fiji to qualify for State of Origin. I'm not sure if that is correct though.

I'm not sure if Gus Gould is the best man for the job but we can't stay with Craig Bellamy.
 
@stryker said:
Phil Gould is not the messiah people…...

He is an "after the fact" reactionary commentator- and I have no doubt he'll be one as a coach, he would turn the whole thing into a circus about himself.

His favourite saying is " I've been saying this for years"....he never says it before an event takes place. There are literally 100's of examples of this and I'd suspect that every person on this forum would have heard him come up with one of these gems and rolled their eyes at least 10 times.

He did it on Wednesday night...before the game he was doing one of his Origin puff-up pieces and at the end of his rant yelled into the microphone " Get your hands of the trophy Queensland supporters...this aint over yet...in fact it's just starting."

5 minutes later he started his attacks on the team selected and the tactics used afte JT sliced through the backline and put Ingliss over. I laughed my head off!!!

Gus Gould isn't the answer people, these days he's little more than a very eloquent reporter....after an event has taken place he is very good at telling us what has just taken place. Nothing more.

Mate…Top Post...

Nailed Gus to a tee....It's pathetic really

Late in the game he showed his true colours....'there are blokes in Lounge Rooms that must be saying to themselves "We can do better than this"...then followed it up with"I don't know who they are'

Funny thing is though...Gus is so sanctimonious....I can see him accepting when Carr comes grovelling...
 
Talk is cheap Gould.

You have been bagging others who try for years and when your asked you back away.

You have the best recored and you have chosen to quit while your ahead.

You are needed - Walk your talk.
 
@ron burgandy said:
stryker that is one of the more ridiculous posts ive read…...even more so then some of the doozies ive put on this forum......

Good to see that you are finally acknologing how stupid some of the things you say are..well done your growing…

Back on topic if you really believe that just changing the coach will win you the series then that proves that you just dont get Origin football.

Answer me this question, before the current QLD reign who was the last team to have one? Thats right NSW and it lasted for three series and people said that Origin was dying because QLD couldnt compete with the talent of the Blues.

What did the Maroons do to solve the problem? They blooded youngsters who had amazing skill but were very raw, then guys like Locky and JT took their games to another level. But more improtantly they picked specialists and played them in their own positions. They showed faith and trust in the boys picked. They didn't carry on with this built for origin BS that Gould loves so much. They said righto he's the best center at out disposal...he's only 19 but deserves his shot, as he's the best performing player we got at the moment.

If you show faith in a young bloke who is aeger to win, then surround him with FOG's who make sure he feels right at home and doesnt get too overawed about his job, build his confidence rather than question it....He'll walk through fire for you come game day.

This is why QLD never gives up...they play for each other and for everyone else. By comparison, some NSW players still play for themselves and for their own goals.

NSW need to pick a core group of young enthusiastic players i.e. Hayne,Morris,Lawrence,Jennings,Carney,Pearce,Farah,Watmough - build a side around them and surround that side by FOG's.

The FOG's are there to pump up the volume and be sounding boards only...they shouldn't tell the boys how to play. These new guys play the game totally differently to how the former guys did. League has evolved, QLD has evolved ...time for NSW to do the same.

Origin is about more than the influence of one coach.
 
Unless Colin Love and Geoff Carr are apart of the clean-up and punted, Gould wont go anywhere near coaching the Blues.

Gould never walked away, he was pushed!!!
 
Origin is about more than the influence of one coach.

sure but when you haven't won a series for 5 years, the first thing that should happen is, what have been consistent throughtout the series? and the answer to that is management. The coach, the selectors and administration aren't the ones that have been swapped and dropped faster than jenga over the past 5 years and particularly of the last 3 years.

Really good players are usually selected but i don't think they are properly prepared like the queenslanders are in terms of mental preperation and even positioning.

Their needs to be a clean start for NSW.
 
@BrissieTiger67 said:
Their needs to be a clean start for NSW.

Agreed mate but if the changing of the coach is the only thing done here than the problems will still exist.
 
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