Please....

hank37w said:
Don't know who the biggest losers are, the Wests Tigers or some of their supporter base.

No spoon for us this year.
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Yes we shouldn’t get the spoon. Eels are 3 wins behind us and have used a bye already. They are a worse side despite them beating us.
We have a tough run home though. We have to play a lot of teams who like to flex against us. There are also some good teams behind us currently who will surely click soon?
Having said that, injuries will determine our fate. Lose May, Bula or Luai for a few weeks and we’ll be back in the mix.
 
Tucker said:
Yes we shouldn’t get the spoon. Eels are 3 wins behind us and have used a bye already. They are a worse side despite them beating us.
We have a tough run home though. We have to play a lot of teams who like to flex against us. There are also some good teams behind us currently who will surely click soon?
Having said that, injuries will determine our fate. Lose May, Bula or Luai for a few weeks and we’ll be back in the mix.
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You are not wrong about the tough run home and more blow outs are not out of the question.

We still need to play Cows, Raiders, Penrith and Manly twice.

Penrith appear to be on the up and on current form I see one win against Manly being the best possible outcome from those 8 games and our best chances of a win appear to be the 2 games against the Titans who have speed to burn out the back and will most likely lift against us.

The other remaining games are against the Roosters, Warriors and Dogs.

At the very best I see us finishing on a maximum of 22 competition points which would have us still entrenched in the bottom 4 but hopefully no spoon, still well short of the 10th position I thought we would finish in at the start of the season.

It is getting to the stage where we are praying for the teams below us on the table to keep losing each week.

Once again, as it it turns out to be the case most weeks, this game against Souffs is a huge must win, but on current form I don't see a favourable result. 😡
 
Was there any positives from the Melbourne game? I don't want to watch it again and in the moment I couldn't see much. I believe we're in desperate need of a bye (and some recruits) and we'll bounce back but hoping someone saw something in that game that suggested it wasn't as bad as it seemed...
 
hank37w said:
You are not wrong about the tough run home and more blow outs are not out of the question.

We still need to play Cows, Raiders, Penrith and Manly twice.

Penrith appear to be on the up and on current form I see one win against Manly being the best possible outcome from those 8 games and our best chances of a win appear to be the 2 games against the Titans who have speed to burn out the back and will most likely lift against us.

The other remaining games are against the Roosters, Warriors and Dogs.

At the very best I see us finishing on a maximum of 22 competition points which would have us still entrenched in the bottom 4 but hopefully no spoon, still well short of the 10th position I thought we would finish in at the start of the season.

It is getting to the stage where we are praying for the teams below us on the table to keep losing each week.

Once again, as it it turns out to be the case most weeks, this game against Souffs is a huge must win, but on current form I don't see a favourable result. 😡
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I see it pretty much as you do....we used our luck last year re: the draw we had a great final month or so but still blew it.
Hopefully origin may help us.
I have no confidence.going to townsville so this weeks critical.
Hopefully theres a few upsets.for usnin hames we are not meant to win
 
Tiger Tarl said:
Was there any positives from the Melbourne game? I don't want to watch it again and in the moment I couldn't see much. I believe we're in desperate need of a bye (and some recruits) and we'll bounce back but hoping someone saw something in that game that suggested it wasn't as bad as it seemed...
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There were zero positives,our pack was monstered and only 3 of our forwards May Seyfarth and to a lesser extent Twal seemed to be trying to the end of the game.
 
Tiger Tarl said:
Was there any positives from the Melbourne game? I don't want to watch it again and in the moment I couldn't see much. I believe we're in desperate need of a bye (and some recruits) and we'll bounce back but hoping someone saw something in that game that suggested it wasn't as bad as it seemed...
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We did have a lot more opportunities in the red zone than the Storm by halftime (not sure how it ended at fulltime) just couldn't execute cleanly.

Sione Fainu's tackle on the tryline in the 2nd half was a trysaver!

Bula!
 
Tiger Tarl said:
Was there any positives from the Melbourne game? I don't want to watch it again and in the moment I couldn't see much. I believe we're in desperate need of a bye (and some recruits) and we'll bounce back but hoping someone saw something in that game that suggested it wasn't as bad as it seemed...
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Hopefully benji learned he doesnt have to be like sheens and re invent the wheel.
Keep it simple.
Id love to hear his reasoning for dropping bird.

While seyfarth.and staines are the new whipping boys i might re watch again ( tho like you i dont really want to) to see just how "bad" they were.
Im sure benji is using seyfarth purely as a defender tho thats really.limiting our options.
I dont recall staines having any worse a game than anyone else In the team.

Attirude hunger and desire were really lacking on sunday and.thats a first this year imo...need to work out why and ensure this.never happens again
 
Gee, it doesn't say much for our 2025 ambition when the "realistic target" appears to be to avoid the spoon, this early in the season. But then again, the competition is getting more and more unbalanced betwen those that can, and those that can't.
 
Tiger Tarl said:
Was there any positives from the Melbourne game? I don't want to watch it again and in the moment I couldn't see much. I believe we're in desperate need of a bye (and some recruits) and we'll bounce back but hoping someone saw something in that game that suggested it wasn't as bad as it seemed...
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It is too simplistic to single out individuals.
They beat them through the middle and through the right edge. It was the defensive systems of those two areas that let them down. The lazy efforts of the inside men were exploited. The refusal of any player bar Bula to attempt a bomb defusal was exploited. The marker defence was disorganised trash. The broken field defence remains cowardly - they all just stand still and hope the runner comes near them.
If Harry Grant played that game he would have likely secured another couple of try assists, through linebreaks from dummy half. The scoreline actually flattered us. We were very very lucky to only lose by 64. They made a lot of mistakes and Bellamy was going apeshit in the box. The definitely left points out on the field.
That was a worse beating than we received from the Cows in 23, the Roosters in 22 or the Storm in 21, even though those teams scored more against us, as we were playing better footy in the lead up, with a better roster.

So no. There was no positives. They werent just taught a lesson, they were bitchslapped. They were embarrassed and shown in no uncertain terms what a fraud of a side they are. They were shown that their "good form" to start this year was actually built on a house of cards...lucky wins included. I dont think they can turn it around as its been there all year and hasnt been improved. Saying that though....the side to play to get back in the right mindset is a South Sydney missing Murray, Walker, Wighton, Johnston and Ravalawa.
They need to win by any means this weekend and then work their arses off over the next fortnight.
No fking family holidays!!!
 
Tucker said:
It is too simplistic to single out individuals.
They beat them through the middle and through the right edge. It was the defensive systems of those two areas that let them down. The lazy efforts of the inside men were exploited. The refusal of any player bar Bula to attempt a bomb defusal was exploited. The marker defence was disorganised trash. The broken field defence remains cowardly - they all just stand still and hope the runner comes near them.
If Harry Grant played that game he would have likely secured another couple of try assists, through linebreaks from dummy half. The scoreline actually flattered us. We were very very lucky to only lose by 64. They made a lot of mistakes and Bellamy was going apeshit in the box. The definitely left points out on the field.
That was a worse beating than we received from the Cows in 23, the Roosters in 22 or the Storm in 21, even though those teams scored more against us, as we were playing better footy in the lead up, with a better roster.

So no. There was no positives. They werent just taught a lesson, they were bitchslapped. They were embarrassed and shown in no uncertain terms what a fraud of a side they are. They were shown that their "good form" to start this year was actually built on a house of cards...lucky wins included. I dont think they can turn it around as its been there all year and hasnt been improved. Saying that though....the side to play to get back in the right mindset is a South Sydney missing Murray, Walker, Wighton, Johnston and Ravalawa.
They need to win by any means this weekend and then work their arses off over the next fortnight.
No fking family holidays!!!
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Yep nothing more needs to be added to that summation, well said
 
Tucker said:
It is too simplistic to single out individuals.
They beat them through the middle and through the right edge. It was the defensive systems of those two areas that let them down. The lazy efforts of the inside men were exploited. The refusal of any player bar Bula to attempt a bomb defusal was exploited. The marker defence was disorganised trash. The broken field defence remains cowardly - they all just stand still and hope the runner comes near them.
If Harry Grant played that game he would have likely secured another couple of try assists, through linebreaks from dummy half. The scoreline actually flattered us. We were very very lucky to only lose by 64. They made a lot of mistakes and Bellamy was going apeshit in the box. The definitely left points out on the field.
That was a worse beating than we received from the Cows in 23, the Roosters in 22 or the Storm in 21, even though those teams scored more against us, as we were playing better footy in the lead up, with a better roster.

So no. There was no positives. They werent just taught a lesson, they were bitchslapped. They were embarrassed and shown in no uncertain terms what a fraud of a side they are. They were shown that their "good form" to start this year was actually built on a house of cards...lucky wins included. I dont think they can turn it around as its been there all year and hasnt been improved. Saying that though....the side to play to get back in the right mindset is a South Sydney missing Murray, Walker, Wighton, Johnston and Ravalawa.
They need to win by any means this weekend and then work their arses off over the next fortnight.
No fking family holidays!!!
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Oh boy you didn't spare the rod with the bare facts their Tuck, went grim reaper on their arses lol.
 
Tucker said:
It is too simplistic to single out individuals.
They beat them through the middle and through the right edge. It was the defensive systems of those two areas that let them down. The lazy efforts of the inside men were exploited. The refusal of any player bar Bula to attempt a bomb defusal was exploited. The marker defence was disorganised trash. The broken field defence remains cowardly - they all just stand still and hope the runner comes near them.
If Harry Grant played that game he would have likely secured another couple of try assists, through linebreaks from dummy half. The scoreline actually flattered us. We were very very lucky to only lose by 64. They made a lot of mistakes and Bellamy was going apeshit in the box. The definitely left points out on the field.
That was a worse beating than we received from the Cows in 23, the Roosters in 22 or the Storm in 21, even though those teams scored more against us, as we were playing better footy in the lead up, with a better roster.

So no. There was no positives. They werent just taught a lesson, they were bitchslapped. They were embarrassed and shown in no uncertain terms what a fraud of a side they are. They were shown that their "good form" to start this year was actually built on a house of cards...lucky wins included. I dont think they can turn it around as its been there all year and hasnt been improved. Saying that though....the side to play to get back in the right mindset is a South Sydney missing Murray, Walker, Wighton, Johnston and Ravalawa.
They need to win by any means this weekend and then work their arses off over the next fortnight.
No fking family holidays!!!
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Toa and Skelton are really being missed
 
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