Politics Super Thread - keep it all in here

[GNR4LIFE]

Biden leads him in every poll fwiw. Even Faux News.


Agree FWIW.

Wait until Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon gets him on a debate stage. Biden wanted to change the last debate with Bernie to seating rather than standing. I genuinely feel sorry for Biden. He comes across to me as a genuine guy who perhaps is being expected to play a role in the modern Democratic party which isnt really his party anymore. He, Bernie, Tulsi & Andrew Yang are the only genuine humans in the democratic primary race, but Bernie isnt allowed to be totally genuinely himself and unfortunately appears to be literally falling apart physically and mentally on the toughest and most public political stage in the world.

There won’t be any debates.

 

[Tiger5150]

Biden leads him in every poll fwiw. Even Faux News.


Agree FWIW.

Wait until Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon gets him on a debate stage. Biden wanted to change the last debate with Bernie to seating rather than standing. I genuinely feel sorry for Biden. He comes across to me as a genuine guy who perhaps is being expected to play a role in the modern Democratic party which isnt really his party anymore. He, Bernie, Tulsi & Andrew Yang are the only genuine humans in the democratic primary race, but Bernie isnt allowed to be totally genuinely himself and unfortunately appears to be literally falling apart physically and mentally on the toughest and most public political stage in the world.


There won’t be any debates.

Im sure the Dems wont want any, but surely that doesnt wash well with the public. It smack of cowardice and admitting defeat IMO. Surely in a president you want someone who speaks well and can stand up and make a strong political case? That will be his job whoever wins the election.

If they dont debate, all you will hear is Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon...."Sleepy Joe wont debate me..."

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Biden leads him in every poll fwiw. Even Faux News.


Agree FWIW.

Wait until Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon gets him on a debate stage. Biden wanted to change the last debate with Bernie to seating rather than standing. I genuinely feel sorry for Biden. He comes across to me as a genuine guy who perhaps is being expected to play a role in the modern Democratic party which isnt really his party anymore. He, Bernie, Tulsi & Andrew Yang are the only genuine humans in the democratic primary race, but Bernie isnt allowed to be totally genuinely himself and unfortunately appears to be literally falling apart physically and mentally on the toughest and most public political stage in the world.


There won’t be any debates.


Im sure the Dems wont want any, but surely that doesnt wash well with the public. It smack of cowardice and admitting defeat IMO. Surely in a president you want someone who speaks well and can stand up and make a strong political case? That will be his job whoever wins the election.

If they dont debate, all you will hear is Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon...."Sleepy Joe wont debate me..."

Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon won’t debate him. Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon fears the debate stage.

 

[Tiger5150]

Biden leads him in every poll fwiw. Even Faux News.


Agree FWIW.

Wait until Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon gets him on a debate stage. Biden wanted to change the last debate with Bernie to seating rather than standing. I genuinely feel sorry for Biden. He comes across to me as a genuine guy who perhaps is being expected to play a role in the modern Democratic party which isnt really his party anymore. He, Bernie, Tulsi & Andrew Yang are the only genuine humans in the democratic primary race, but Bernie isnt allowed to be totally genuinely himself and unfortunately appears to be literally falling apart physically and mentally on the toughest and most public political stage in the world.


There won’t be any debates.


Im sure the Dems wont want any, but surely that doesnt wash well with the public. It smack of cowardice and admitting defeat IMO. Surely in a president you want someone who speaks well and can stand up and make a strong political case? That will be his job whoever wins the election.

If they dont debate, all you will hear is Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon...."Sleepy Joe wont debate me..."


Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon won’t debate him. Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon fears the debate stage.

Are you serious?

 

[Geo]

Nah the Don just has to point to his head and say ..'the metrics; are all up here..game over..

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Biden leads him in every poll fwiw. Even Faux News.


Agree FWIW.

Wait until Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon gets him on a debate stage. Biden wanted to change the last debate with Bernie to seating rather than standing. I genuinely feel sorry for Biden. He comes across to me as a genuine guy who perhaps is being expected to play a role in the modern Democratic party which isnt really his party anymore. He, Bernie, Tulsi & Andrew Yang are the only genuine humans in the democratic primary race, but Bernie isnt allowed to be totally genuinely himself and unfortunately appears to be literally falling apart physically and mentally on the toughest and most public political stage in the world.


There won’t be any debates.


Im sure the Dems wont want any, but surely that doesnt wash well with the public. It smack of cowardice and admitting defeat IMO. Surely in a president you want someone who speaks well and can stand up and make a strong political case? That will be his job whoever wins the election.

If they dont debate, all you will hear is Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon...."Sleepy Joe wont debate me..."


Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon won’t debate him. Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon fears the debate stage.


Are you serious?

Yes. He was never going to debate any candidate.

 

[Tiger5150]

Biden leads him in every poll fwiw. Even Faux News.


Agree FWIW.

Wait until Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon gets him on a debate stage. Biden wanted to change the last debate with Bernie to seating rather than standing. I genuinely feel sorry for Biden. He comes across to me as a genuine guy who perhaps is being expected to play a role in the modern Democratic party which isnt really his party anymore. He, Bernie, Tulsi & Andrew Yang are the only genuine humans in the democratic primary race, but Bernie isnt allowed to be totally genuinely himself and unfortunately appears to be literally falling apart physically and mentally on the toughest and most public political stage in the world.


There won’t be any debates.


Im sure the Dems wont want any, but surely that doesnt wash well with the public. It smack of cowardice and admitting defeat IMO. Surely in a president you want someone who speaks well and can stand up and make a strong political case? That will be his job whoever wins the election.

If they dont debate, all you will hear is Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon...."Sleepy Joe wont debate me..."


Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon won’t debate him. Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon fears the debate stage.


Are you serious?


Yes. He was never going to debate any candidate.

I reckon he will be champing at the bit to get Joe on a debate stage. Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon is many things but he loves to talk, especially about himself. His best bet is to get Joe on the stage and push him into corners where Joe cant fight his way out.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Biden leads him in every poll fwiw. Even Faux News.


Agree FWIW.

Wait until Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon gets him on a debate stage. Biden wanted to change the last debate with Bernie to seating rather than standing. I genuinely feel sorry for Biden. He comes across to me as a genuine guy who perhaps is being expected to play a role in the modern Democratic party which isnt really his party anymore. He, Bernie, Tulsi & Andrew Yang are the only genuine humans in the democratic primary race, but Bernie isnt allowed to be totally genuinely himself and unfortunately appears to be literally falling apart physically and mentally on the toughest and most public political stage in the world.


There won’t be any debates.


Im sure the Dems wont want any, but surely that doesnt wash well with the public. It smack of cowardice and admitting defeat IMO. Surely in a president you want someone who speaks well and can stand up and make a strong political case? That will be his job whoever wins the election.

If they dont debate, all you will hear is Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon...."Sleepy Joe wont debate me..."


Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon won’t debate him. Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon fears the debate stage.


Are you serious?


Yes. He was never going to debate any candidate.


I reckon he will be champing at the bit to get Joe on a debate stage. Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon is many things but he loves to talk, especially about himself. His best bet is to get Joe on the stage and push him into corners where Joe cant fight his way out.

He also loves to play the victim. He can complain he’d never get a fair debate. We’ll never know because Covid is likely to prevent any debates. It’s going to be a different kind of campaign.

 

[colinbh]

As each day passes, I see the case for the Democrats to shoe horn in Andrew Cuomo as their candidate become more realistic and especially so since Bernie pulled his hat from the ring.

Biden's health is failing and for mine there is no way he has the capacity to lead until the end of 2021, let alone 2024 and Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon will rip him apart, particularly if they ever share a stage. Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon needs a target to attack and defer to, with Cuomo not one that he can bully, rather one that will stand toe to toe and not back down.

Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon obviously has the prime avenue to the public through the briefings, Cuomo having a greater public profile, whilst being reasonably honest and forthcoming during this crisis is also a big thing perception wise, with his current wide reaching stage, compared to Biden's limited tv time from home, it is huge for his recognition and likely will be so for months to come.


Biden is such a bad result as a candidate, I can see them parachuting a candidate in from nowhere at the 11th hour. On the face of it they need to . Cuomo is a popular candidate but not sure if he would sell nationally. The other one I have thought they might drop in as well could be Michelle Obama. That would also explain why Barack Obama has resisted endorsing Biden.

It doesnt however say much for the democratic process in that millions have voted for the candidate they wanted (from the selection they had).

The Democrats are in a bad position now because it was the Democratic Party machine that threw its weight behind Biden to quash the Bernie bandwagon. IMO the Dems dont care that Biden is a walking incoherent corpse. They dont want him to run the country, they want him to stand there whilst *they* run the country.

AOC will be the candidate in 2024.

Can agree with most of that, though I couldn't see Michelle running for president, but VP could be a possibility, which would have her basically in charge anyway with an ailing Joe.

I am not a great fan of Cuomo, apart from his performance over the last month, even if he was a week or two behind starting, nor Biden for that matter. Still, I think that regardless of who runs, Sanders has created a big enough groundswell to enforce more change from the establishment line and legislative direction if elected.

As to AOC, she is already bending in conformity to be more centrist and not pouring the bucket over the establishment for expediency. Still, she, along with Porter have been very impressive for newly elected young representatives and a breath of fresh air amongst mostly aged officials. They both have substance politically, though one has the advantage of other areas of appeal, which for better or worse, are likely to propel her further into the spotlight.

If AOC had been in Congress for another two years, I would be running her as VP now to maintain the progressive arm.


Thats the beauty of politics. I think AOC is a vacuous attention seeker who literally does not know what the hell she is talking about. No qualifications, education, professional or life experience but spouts a dangerous agenda. Died in the wool socialist who doesnt even understand why she thinks what she thinks, all wrapped up in a marketable package. Dangerous IMO. She is to the left what Pauline Hanson is to the right, but prettier and younger.

I genuinely think that if Bernie had been the nominee, he would have had AOC as his VP candidate and IMO AOC is desperate to get out of the House of Reps. As Nancy Pelosi said of AOC, "She hasnt won anything, a coffee mug with a D on it would have won that election to Congress". AOC has a massive national following but locally she may face a fight to hold her seat against other Democratic noms. She has her eyes on a more national stage.

She is arguably the dumbest politician in Washington. If she gets anywhere near power, God help us all.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Biden leads him in every poll fwiw. Even Faux News.


Agree FWIW.

Wait until Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon gets him on a debate stage. Biden wanted to change the last debate with Bernie to seating rather than standing. I genuinely feel sorry for Biden. He comes across to me as a genuine guy who perhaps is being expected to play a role in the modern Democratic party which isnt really his party anymore. He, Bernie, Tulsi & Andrew Yang are the only genuine humans in the democratic primary race, but Bernie isnt allowed to be totally genuinely himself and unfortunately appears to be literally falling apart physically and mentally on the toughest and most public political stage in the world.


There won’t be any debates.


Im sure the Dems wont want any, but surely that doesnt wash well with the public. It smack of cowardice and admitting defeat IMO. Surely in a president you want someone who speaks well and can stand up and make a strong political case? That will be his job whoever wins the election.

If they dont debate, all you will hear is Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon...."Sleepy Joe wont debate me..."


Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon won’t debate him. Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon fears the debate stage.


Are you serious?


Yes. He was never going to debate any candidate.


I reckon he will be champing at the bit to get Joe on a debate stage. Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon is many things but he loves to talk, especially about himself. His best bet is to get Joe on the stage and push him into corners where Joe cant fight his way out.

I too reckon he'd love to get Biden on stage. He'll pump himself up the whole time, that's his MO and he admittedly does it well.

I reckon he would have struggled against Bernie.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

As each day passes, I see the case for the Democrats to shoe horn in Andrew Cuomo as their candidate become more realistic and especially so since Bernie pulled his hat from the ring.

Biden's health is failing and for mine there is no way he has the capacity to lead until the end of 2021, let alone 2024 and Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon will rip him apart, particularly if they ever share a stage. Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon needs a target to attack and defer to, with Cuomo not one that he can bully, rather one that will stand toe to toe and not back down.

Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon obviously has the prime avenue to the public through the briefings, Cuomo having a greater public profile, whilst being reasonably honest and forthcoming during this crisis is also a big thing perception wise, with his current wide reaching stage, compared to Biden's limited tv time from home, it is huge for his recognition and likely will be so for months to come.


Biden is such a bad result as a candidate, I can see them parachuting a candidate in from nowhere at the 11th hour. On the face of it they need to . Cuomo is a popular candidate but not sure if he would sell nationally. The other one I have thought they might drop in as well could be Michelle Obama. That would also explain why Barack Obama has resisted endorsing Biden.

It doesnt however say much for the democratic process in that millions have voted for the candidate they wanted (from the selection they had).

The Democrats are in a bad position now because it was the Democratic Party machine that threw its weight behind Biden to quash the Bernie bandwagon. IMO the Dems dont care that Biden is a walking incoherent corpse. They dont want him to run the country, they want him to stand there whilst *they* run the country.

AOC will be the candidate in 2024.

Can agree with most of that, though I couldn't see Michelle running for president, but VP could be a possibility, which would have her basically in charge anyway with an ailing Joe.

I am not a great fan of Cuomo, apart from his performance over the last month, even if he was a week or two behind starting, nor Biden for that matter. Still, I think that regardless of who runs, Sanders has created a big enough groundswell to enforce more change from the establishment line and legislative direction if elected.

As to AOC, she is already bending in conformity to be more centrist and not pouring the bucket over the establishment for expediency. Still, she, along with Porter have been very impressive for newly elected young representatives and a breath of fresh air amongst mostly aged officials. They both have substance politically, though one has the advantage of other areas of appeal, which for better or worse, are likely to propel her further into the spotlight.

If AOC had been in Congress for another two years, I would be running her as VP now to maintain the progressive arm.


Thats the beauty of politics. I think AOC is a vacuous attention seeker who literally does not know what the hell she is talking about. No qualifications, education, professional or life experience but spouts a dangerous agenda. Died in the wool socialist who doesnt even understand why she thinks what she thinks, all wrapped up in a marketable package. Dangerous IMO. She is to the left what Pauline Hanson is to the right, but prettier and younger.

I genuinely think that if Bernie had been the nominee, he would have had AOC as his VP candidate and IMO AOC is desperate to get out of the House of Reps. As Nancy Pelosi said of AOC, "She hasnt won anything, a coffee mug with a D on it would have won that election to Congress". AOC has a massive national following but locally she may face a fight to hold her seat against other Democratic noms. She has her eyes on a more national stage.


She is arguably the dumbest politician in Washington. If she gets anywhere near power, God help us all.

Why "us" Col, do you live in the states?

 

[Tiger5150]

Biden leads him in every poll fwiw. Even Faux News.


Agree FWIW.

Wait until Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon gets him on a debate stage. Biden wanted to change the last debate with Bernie to seating rather than standing. I genuinely feel sorry for Biden. He comes across to me as a genuine guy who perhaps is being expected to play a role in the modern Democratic party which isnt really his party anymore. He, Bernie, Tulsi & Andrew Yang are the only genuine humans in the democratic primary race, but Bernie isnt allowed to be totally genuinely himself and unfortunately appears to be literally falling apart physically and mentally on the toughest and most public political stage in the world.


There won’t be any debates.


Im sure the Dems wont want any, but surely that doesnt wash well with the public. It smack of cowardice and admitting defeat IMO. Surely in a president you want someone who speaks well and can stand up and make a strong political case? That will be his job whoever wins the election.

If they dont debate, all you will hear is Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon...."Sleepy Joe wont debate me..."


Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon won’t debate him. Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon fears the debate stage.


Are you serious?


Yes. He was never going to debate any candidate.


I reckon he will be champing at the bit to get Joe on a debate stage. Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon is many things but he loves to talk, especially about himself. His best bet is to get Joe on the stage and push him into corners where Joe cant fight his way out.

I too reckon he'd love to get Biden on stage. He'll pump himself up the whole time, that's his MO and he admittedly does it well.

I reckon he would have struggled against Bernie.

Bernies strength is his integrity. I strongly disagree with his political views but he hasnt really changed them in 50 years and they are ingrained in him so in a debate he doesnt need to mentally go through a catalogue of "correct" answers, he just tells it the way he sees it. Coincidently I think this is also the reason the democratic machine turned on him as the way Bernie sees it is a hard sell with the American public.

In a debate, Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon will be Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon, with little filter and say provocative things. Bernie wouldnt even bother addressing Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon and would simply say what he wanted to say anyway which would have been a mixture of Universal Health Care, forgiving Student Loans, etc etc.

Biden on stage with Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon, Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon will corner him and Biden will be trying to remember what he thinks, what the party wants him to think, what he said previously, what his name is, what state he is in...guaranteed he will come undone.

 

[Tim Sheens]

Biden leads him in every poll fwiw. Even Faux News.


Agree FWIW.

Wait until Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon gets him on a debate stage. Biden wanted to change the last debate with Bernie to seating rather than standing. I genuinely feel sorry for Biden. He comes across to me as a genuine guy who perhaps is being expected to play a role in the modern Democratic party which isnt really his party anymore. He, Bernie, Tulsi & Andrew Yang are the only genuine humans in the democratic primary race, but Bernie isnt allowed to be totally genuinely himself and unfortunately appears to be literally falling apart physically and mentally on the toughest and most public political stage in the world.


There won’t be any debates.


Im sure the Dems wont want any, but surely that doesnt wash well with the public. It smack of cowardice and admitting defeat IMO. Surely in a president you want someone who speaks well and can stand up and make a strong political case? That will be his job whoever wins the election.

If they dont debate, all you will hear is Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon...."Sleepy Joe wont debate me..."


Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon won’t debate him. Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon fears the debate stage.


Are you serious?


Yes. He was never going to debate any candidate.


I reckon he will be champing at the bit to get Joe on a debate stage. Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon is many things but he loves to talk, especially about himself. His best bet is to get Joe on the stage and push him into corners where Joe cant fight his way out.

I too reckon he'd love to get Biden on stage. He'll pump himself up the whole time, that's his MO and he admittedly does it well.

I reckon he would have struggled against Bernie.

Without doubt on both counts. Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon would rip Biden a new one and really struggle against Sanders who is clued up on just about everything regarding policies and could rise above the communist jibes.

On the home front, was it Scamo's head executioner Alex Hawke or Stuart Robert, or both, that had in-laws and more Hillsong friends aboard the Ruby Princess?

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Even if Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon does debate Biden and bests him, there’s still the matter of an unemployment number that will be in the range of 25-30 million that will be a bigger talking point than a couple of Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon zingers in a debate.

 

[Snake]

Having served on a jury, I cannot believe they could have found a group of non biased men and women to judge this case. The first appeal is even more concerning when you see a unanimous decision from the high court to overturn the verdict.
The biggest concern to me is our legal system.

The Catholic Church is guilty as charged as we have seen from other cases, just not this one but maybe there is a valid reason. All I know is Abbott will be happy.

If Abbott is happy the rest of us should be concerned,he is completely out of step with the majority of Australians on most social issues.I know he does good work with the firies and SLSC but is still living in the 50s, the 1850s at that.

When the trillion dollar infrastructure fund to rebuild America is rolled out it’s bye bye Biden ... what unemployment the USA will build its way out ! The one thing the President knows is how to build something !

 

[Tiger5150]

Even if Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon does debate Biden and bests him, there’s still the matter of an unemployment number that will be in the range of 25-30 million that will be a bigger talking point than a couple of Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon zingers in a debate.

and Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon will replay over and over again Bidens speech where he said Trumps decision to close flights from China was xenophobic.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Even if Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon does debate Biden and bests him, there’s still the matter of an unemployment number that will be in the range of 25-30 million that will be a bigger talking point than a couple of Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon zingers in a debate.


and Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon will replay over and over again Bidens speech where he said Trumps decision to close flights from China was xenophobic.

And then Biden can play countless interviews where POTUS downplayed the whole thing.

 

[jadtiger]

Having served on a jury, I cannot believe they could have found a group of non biased men and women to judge this case. The first appeal is even more concerning when you see a unanimous decision from the high court to overturn the verdict.
The biggest concern to me is our legal system.

The Catholic Church is guilty as charged as we have seen from other cases, just not this one but maybe there is a valid reason. All I know is Abbott will be happy.

If Abbott is happy the rest of us should be concerned,he is completely out of step with the majority of Australians on most social issues.I know he does good work with the firies and SLSC but is still living in the 50s, the 1850s at that.


When the trillion dollar infrastructure fund to rebuild America is rolled out it’s bye bye Biden ... what unemployment the USA will build its way out ! The one thing the President knows is how to build something !

I am not sure why i have been quoted when my comments were about Pell/Abbott and you bring in Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon/Biden unless you are trying to say the 2 latter people are as dodgy as the first 2.In regards to your last sentence i can only assume his wall has been built

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Biden leads him in every poll fwiw. Even Faux News.


Agree FWIW.

Wait until Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon gets him on a debate stage. Biden wanted to change the last debate with Bernie to seating rather than standing. I genuinely feel sorry for Biden. He comes across to me as a genuine guy who perhaps is being expected to play a role in the modern Democratic party which isnt really his party anymore. He, Bernie, Tulsi & Andrew Yang are the only genuine humans in the democratic primary race, but Bernie isnt allowed to be totally genuinely himself and unfortunately appears to be literally falling apart physically and mentally on the toughest and most public political stage in the world.


There won’t be any debates.


Im sure the Dems wont want any, but surely that doesnt wash well with the public. It smack of cowardice and admitting defeat IMO. Surely in a president you want someone who speaks well and can stand up and make a strong political case? That will be his job whoever wins the election.

If they dont debate, all you will hear is Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon...."Sleepy Joe wont debate me..."


Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon won’t debate him. Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon fears the debate stage.


Are you serious?


Yes. He was never going to debate any candidate.


I reckon he will be champing at the bit to get Joe on a debate stage. Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon is many things but he loves to talk, especially about himself. His best bet is to get Joe on the stage and push him into corners where Joe cant fight his way out.

I too reckon he'd love to get Biden on stage. He'll pump himself up the whole time, that's his MO and he admittedly does it well.

I reckon he would have struggled against Bernie.

Without doubt on both counts. Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon would rip Biden a new one and really struggle against Sanders who is clued up on just about everything regarding policies and could rise above the communist jibes.

On the home front, was it Scamo's head executioner Alex Hawke or Stuart Robert, or both, that had in-laws and more Hillsong friends aboard the Ruby Princess?

Apparently it was Alex Hawke. But there were also Hillsong people on board too. Haven't seen much on it of late so not sure if there was any legs to the story.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Having served on a jury, I cannot believe they could have found a group of non biased men and women to judge this case. The first appeal is even more concerning when you see a unanimous decision from the high court to overturn the verdict.
The biggest concern to me is our legal system.

The Catholic Church is guilty as charged as we have seen from other cases, just not this one but maybe there is a valid reason. All I know is Abbott will be happy.

If Abbott is happy the rest of us should be concerned,he is completely out of step with the majority of Australians on most social issues.I know he does good work with the firies and SLSC but is still living in the 50s, the 1850s at that.


When the trillion dollar infrastructure fund to rebuild America is rolled out it’s bye bye Biden ... what unemployment the USA will build its way out ! The one thing the President knows is how to build something !

The new New Deal?