Politics Super Thread - keep it all in here

[GNR4LIFE]

The polling has been altered since 2016 and was only a percentage point or so out back then, with Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon losing the popular vote by nearly three million. ***Following changes, they were just about spot on for the midterm elections.***

There is still the possibility of change with nearly three months to go, by say a war or attack, but he is gone otherwise as he had already long ago attracted and brought out nearly all of the core racist base that he relies upon.

Spot on. The Dems were were projected to reclaim the house for a full year before they actually did. I think it’s all the red caps have left, to think that because the polls were wrong in 2016 therefore they are wrong in 2020. They could be, but given how much of a mess the country is in due to the pandemic, the polls this time round may have some merit.

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

Not sure where to post this one buy did you see the shocking interview from Waleed Aly on the project with the french photographer claiming the accident in Beirut was a likely attack by Israel... wow just wow
glad to see project deleted the post from the online services
naturally the left dont comment on that one too much

 

[Guest]

Not sure where to post this one buy did you see the shocking interview from Waleed Aly on the project with the french photographer claiming the accident in Beirut was a likely attack by Israel... wow just wow
glad to see project deleted the post from the online services
naturally the left dont comment on that one too much

I cringed when he said that. I'm not a fan of that show since they're so unashamedly biased but the rest of my family seem to like it.

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

im not a big fan of it either willow but i cant believe they didnt correct the photographer when he said it.

 

[Tim Sheens]

Just heard a former GOP representative and another discussing Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon and how lost the party is.

**"The Republican party sold their soul and the cheque bounced"**

 

[GNR4LIFE]

I just saw he tweeted the old chestnut that Biden would abolish the second amendment and take away everyone’s guns. Now besides that being an outright lie and fear mongering election tactic, only in the US could the phrase “take away your guns” be interpreted as a bad thing.

 

[Tiger5150]

I just saw he tweeted the old chestnut that Biden would abolish the second amendment and take away everyone’s guns. Now besides that being an outright lie and fear mongering election tactic, only in the US could the phrase “take away your guns” be interpreted as a bad thing.

Anyone who doesnt understand the US gun culture only needs to watch what has been going on in Seattle and Portland the last two months with large organised mobs attacking federal buildings and attempting to burn them down. Local police have been neutered by political activism. Seattle Mayor defunds the police and passes a law preventing the Police from using non lethal methods to control rioters (tear gas etc). Seattle Police Chief (a black women) writes a letter to all Seattle businesses notifying them that with new laws, the Police will not be able to adequately protect them.

BLM storm and attack the Seattle Police Chiefs house (a black woman!!) and she meets them with a gun. https://komonews.com/news/local/video-shows-neighbors-face-off-with-protesters-outside-seattle-police-chiefs-home

When political activists actively neuter the police, while conducting organised attacks on people and property and you can not rely on the police to protect you, what the hell are you going to do? Defend yourself.

Gun sales have almost doubled with the majority of purchases new gun owners. https://www.statista.com/statistics/1107651/monthly-unit-sales-of-firearms-by-type-us/

I am NOT pro gun. I dont own one, dont want to own one, hopefully never will. I LOVE Australian gun laws but the US is a very different beast and recent madness shows exactly why they have this culture and what the 2nd amendment refers to "a well armed militia".

 

[tigger]

So, has America been made great again? Hows that all working out?

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon just starting to ban tiktok... watch the Dems complain about that next.

 

[jadtiger]

Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon just starting to ban tiktok... watch the Dems complain about that next.

Off course he will ban Tik Tok it is a word he can pronounce.

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

interesting obamagate ads starting to come through now.
Heating up, dont think Biden is over the line yet by any stretch.

 

[InBenjiWeTrust]

sad;y, we cannot say this for his opponent!

 

[Tim Sheens]

Meanwhile back in the real world, once Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon realised that his use of whatever federal forces he could muster were only causing him harm, immediately upon pulling them back and starting to remove them, the local police have no real problems controlling the situation.

Quite odd that all these militia members were not out there protecting their fellow citizens from the government violations of their rights. Are there any god believers here that think it was okay for Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon to attack Boden as anti God?

★Statement by Vice President Joe Biden on His Faith★

"Like so many people, my faith has been the bedrock foundation of my life: it’s provided me comfort in moments of loss and tragedy, it’s kept me grounded and humbled in times of triumph and joy. And in this moment of darkness for our country — of pain, of division, and of sickness for so many Americans — my faith has been a guiding light for me and a constant reminder of the fundamental dignity and humanity that God has bestowed upon all of us.

For "President" Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon to attack my faith is shameful. It’s beneath the office he holds and it’s beneath the dignity the American people so rightly expect and deserve from their leaders. However, like the words of so many other insecure bullies, President Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon’s comments reveal more about him than they do about anyone else. They show us a man willing to stoop to any low for political gain, and someone whose actions are completely at odds with the values and teachings that he professes to believe in.

My faith teaches me to love my neighbor as I would myself, while President Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon only seeks to divide us. My faith teaches me to care for the least among us, while President Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon seems to only be concerned about his gilded friends. My faith teaches me to welcome the stranger, while President Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon tears families apart. My faith teaches me to walk humbly, while President Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon teargassed peaceful protestors so he could walk over to a church for a photo op.

As I’ve said so many times before, we’re in the battle for the soul of our nation, and President Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon’s decision today to profane God and to smear my faith in a political attack is a stark reminder of what the stakes of this fight truly are."

 

[Snake]

We all have more to worry about than an election somewhere else ! There is a virus that shows no signs of weakening .. a government that seems powerless to stop it .. a population locked up and ever growing tense .. a state that is totally locked down with deaths rising and in police control .
I think we all should be more concerned with what seems to be a pivotal time in our history and what the scenario will be when the lock down ends and we have to re engage our normal lives with the virus still active and amongst us ..
Please do not let this distract you worrying about which dumb or dumber wins an election in another country.... this virus is not done yet by a long shot .

 

[sheer64]

Meanwhile back in the real world, once Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon realised that his use of whatever federal forces he could muster were only causing him harm, immediately upon pulling them back and starting to remove them, the local police have no real problems controlling the situation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1ycFdf6VGc

 

[GNR4LIFE]

We all have more to worry about than an election somewhere else ! There is a virus that shows no signs of weakening .. a government that seems powerless to stop it .. a population locked up and ever growing tense .. a state that is totally locked down with deaths rising and in police control .
I think we all should be more concerned with what seems to be a pivotal time in our history and what the scenario will be when the lock down ends and we have to re engage our normal lives with the virus still active and amongst us ..
Please do not let this distract you worrying about which dumb or dumber wins an election in another country.... this virus is not done yet by a long shot .

Oh they’re powerless now. I want to know why you’ve gone so quiet on blaming the crazy left wing Premier in Victoria once it made its way up here and our right wing Premier was just as clueless. The virus does not care about political leanings.

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

interesting the Victorian health system does not have area health services like nsw e.g we have south west sydney northern sydney etc so this likely assisted with Vics delayed response unlike other states like nsw and qld. in vic it is all centeralised

 

[Deleted member 3518]

I just saw he tweeted the old chestnut that Biden would abolish the second amendment and take away everyone’s guns. Now besides that being an outright lie and fear mongering election tactic, only in the US could the phrase “take away your guns” be interpreted as a bad thing.


Anyone who doesnt understand the US gun culture only needs to watch what has been going on in Seattle and Portland the last two months with large organised mobs attacking federal buildings and attempting to burn them down. Local police have been neutered by political activism. Seattle Mayor defunds the police and passes a law preventing the Police from using non lethal methods to control rioters (tear gas etc). Seattle Police Chief (a black women) writes a letter to all Seattle businesses notifying them that with new laws, the Police will not be able to adequately protect them.

BLM storm and attack the Seattle Police Chiefs house (a black woman!!) and she meets them with a gun. https://komonews.com/news/local/video-shows-neighbors-face-off-with-protesters-outside-seattle-police-chiefs-home

When political activists actively neuter the police, while conducting organised attacks on people and property and you can not rely on the police to protect you, what the hell are you going to do? Defend yourself.

Gun sales have almost doubled with the majority of purchases new gun owners. https://www.statista.com/statistics/1107651/monthly-unit-sales-of-firearms-by-type-us/

I am NOT pro gun. I dont own one, dont want to own one, hopefully never will. I LOVE Australian gun laws but the US is a very different beast and recent madness shows exactly why they have this culture and what the 2nd amendment refers to "a well armed militia".

Come on man ! All the videos say they’re throwing rocks and fireworks and hurling bricks . Hardly a need for deadly force . The procedures and crowd control structures are in place, but at the end of the day , if these people want to burn Down thier neighbourhoods, which by the way , is actually counter productive to thier cause , as it actually reinforces negative stereotypes , then that’s how it is.
I highly doubt that SWAT and tactical response groups have been neutered , so it has to be an escalation in force . You can’t just go straight to deadly.
Its the whole issue in the first place . Due to poor training ,bad culture , PTSD , these guys are out there thinking shoot first.
I’m definitely not a lefty , but the stance the police force is taking , in many cities , basically “well you do it then” is ridiculous.
It’s all sensationalist rubbish from both sides . The police are not racist by the most part . They target demographics , and profile , because the statistics say that you’re going on o have more luck with certain demographics . Is that racist I dunno ? Seems more like a chicken and egg scenario to me . White people caused the poverty of black people , which lead to crime and disengagement with society , which leads to cops targeting these people . Both sides of the agenda need to realise what they have , and we have as well here in Australia, contributed .
But you don’t need a gun for a speeding fine . You don’t need a gun to attend most situations out there . And if you do , then call in TAG and SWAT or specialised units .
But they should all be trained to be a certain certain level at judo or BJJ . And do real courses in de -escalation . That would alleviate the fear they feel , by not having a gun .

 

[Tiger5150]

I just saw he tweeted the old chestnut that Biden would abolish the second amendment and take away everyone’s guns. Now besides that being an outright lie and fear mongering election tactic, only in the US could the phrase “take away your guns” be interpreted as a bad thing.


Anyone who doesnt understand the US gun culture only needs to watch what has been going on in Seattle and Portland the last two months with large organised mobs attacking federal buildings and attempting to burn them down. Local police have been neutered by political activism. Seattle Mayor defunds the police and passes a law preventing the Police from using non lethal methods to control rioters (tear gas etc). Seattle Police Chief (a black women) writes a letter to all Seattle businesses notifying them that with new laws, the Police will not be able to adequately protect them.

BLM storm and attack the Seattle Police Chiefs house (a black woman!!) and she meets them with a gun. https://komonews.com/news/local/video-shows-neighbors-face-off-with-protesters-outside-seattle-police-chiefs-home

When political activists actively neuter the police, while conducting organised attacks on people and property and you can not rely on the police to protect you, what the hell are you going to do? Defend yourself.

Gun sales have almost doubled with the majority of purchases new gun owners. https://www.statista.com/statistics/1107651/monthly-unit-sales-of-firearms-by-type-us/

I am NOT pro gun. I dont own one, dont want to own one, hopefully never will. I LOVE Australian gun laws but the US is a very different beast and recent madness shows exactly why they have this culture and what the 2nd amendment refers to "a well armed militia".

Come on man ! All the videos say they’re throwing rocks and fireworks and hurling bricks . Hardly a need for ***deadly force*** . The procedures and crowd control structures are in place, but at the end of the day , if these people want to burn Down thier neighbourhoods, which by the way , is actually counter productive to thier cause , as it actually reinforces negative stereotypes , then that’s how it is.

Strongee, I think you need to go back and re-read my post and the Seattle Police Chiefs letter again. The Seatlle Mayor has banned the use of ***NON*** lethal methods so the police (including SWAT/TACTICAL/RIOT) hove no methods available to manage violent mobs and rioter other than asking politely not to. Pepper spray, tear gas, water cannons, bean bags etc etc are all banned. The police have been totally neutered and as the Police Chief says they have no ability to safely intercede to preserve life or property.

I highly doubt that SWAT and tactical response groups have been neutered , so it has to be an escalation in force . You can’t just go straight to deadly.

That is ***EXACTLY*** what the Seattle Mayor passed legislation to do. SWAT and Tactical Response groups have been totally neutered by banning the use of non lethal techniques such as pepper spray, tear gas etc etc.

So...as you say "if they burn their own neighbourhoods down", well what if I dont want my house burned down? What if I dont want my house or business destroyed but I cant rely on the police? This is exactly why gun sales are going through the roof in US and I think it is shallow for us in Australia to pontificate without real understanding of the situation.

One of the single most important elements in WEstern civilisation is the Government having the monopoly on violence. US legislators are ending that monopoly and that is specifically what the 2nd amendment is for.

 

[tigger]

I'd hate to be a cop in the USA with all those guns floating about in society. It's no wonder that so many people get shot by the police. They must be suspicious/nervous in every potential encounter that the person they are approaching might be armed.

I don't claim to understand the American penchant for guns. it seems like a downwards spiral. The more guns there are out there the more you have to protect YOUR right to own a gun.

And I don't understand the police attitude. I would have thought that the police and police unions would have been the most vocal advocates for gun control, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

Glad I live here.