Politics Super Thread - keep it all in here

[jadtiger]

I have been a long time reader of the forum, but not an active member.
I have always had a interest in politics and follow, read & got to know a few in my time and I have always voted (for the last 44 years) for the party I believe had a plan for the country that involved moving in forward direction for the good of us all and not a select few.
This country has a very poor distribution of the ownership on the media and therefore always gives one side a free ride. For example name on electronic or other means of media that is bias to the left. I will save you the trouble, the Guardian is obviously left in its out look. Please do not try and tell me the abc is left bias, they are the only media outlet that has a code of conduct as legislation to be even handed.
My own personal political awareness journey developed much further when I started uni as a mature aged student, thank you Gough, and my love of reading is still with me now. My observation is that the more educated one becomes, the more one tends to lean towards one political direction.
I can name numerous changes one party has made to this country, widows pension, 8 hour day, nationalised health, floating the dollar and modernising the Australian econmy, NDIS etc etc
The other party, gun laws (which was outstanding) and the GST, is about it.
I will not name who I vote for, but I vote for reform and the good of the country, not for the few that put self interest before the country.

You forgot about conscription to fight in Vietnam of boys who were too young to vote.I have never voted for that garbage party because of that dog act and i never will.They are all about looking after their rich mates to the detriment of fellow Australians and the rest of the world

 

[InBenjiWeTrust]

Sadly, it looks like the RU legend and ex-captain is involved:

https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6255107611001

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Sadly, it looks like the RU legend and ex-captain is involved:

https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6255107611001

Wow, wouldn't have picked Gregan for that sort.

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

Turnbull supporting Kirsty O'Connell in Hunter bi election over the nationals is a shocker and typical of the flog turnbull.
Hand in your liberal membership you Ghost
You only seem to see Turnbull and Rudd in the media
Gillard, Abbott, Howard etc keep to themselves

 

[Enmoretiger 0]

When the national conference rolls up for the ALP, you see the ex PM's there, yet all the Tore ex PM's seem to disappear.
Fraser handed back his membership when he was alive, Malcom T actively works against the Tore's.
Howard's legacy is and will be dealt with by History, but remember the Tore's claim to be the greatest money managers falls on deaf ears when one does a little reading. The largest non war time deficit left this country was after eight years of Howard as treasurer. Try reading that in a Murdoch media

 

[jadtiger]

When the national conference rolls up for the ALP, you see the ex PM's there, yet all the Tore ex PM's seem to disappear.
Fraser handed back his membership when he was alive, Malcom T actively works against the Tore's.
Howard's legacy is and will be dealt with by History, but remember the Tore's claim to be the greatest money managers falls on deaf ears when one does a little reading. The largest non war time deficit left this country was after eight years of Howard as treasurer. Try reading that in a Murdoch media

One of the RW nut jobs gave that a negative vote(the truth hurts) so i gave it a positive vote because you are only stating the truth

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

When the national conference rolls up for the ALP, you see the ex PM's there, yet all the Tore ex PM's seem to disappear.
Fraser handed back his membership when he was alive, Malcom T actively works against the Tore's.
Howard's legacy is and will be dealt with by History, but remember the Tore's claim to be the greatest money managers falls on deaf ears when one does a little reading. The largest non war time deficit left this country was after eight years of Howard as treasurer. Try reading that in a Murdoch media

No need the Guardian and the ABC lean so far left they fall over

 

[Enmoretiger 0]

When the national conference rolls up for the ALP, you see the ex PM's there, yet all the Tore ex PM's seem to disappear.
Fraser handed back his membership when he was alive, Malcom T actively works against the Tore's.
Howard's legacy is and will be dealt with by History, but remember the Tore's claim to be the greatest money managers falls on deaf ears when one does a little reading. The largest non war time deficit left this country was after eight years of Howard as treasurer. Try reading that in a Murdoch media

No need the Guardian and the ABC lean so far left they fall over

The ABC, really??? The only media outlet with a code of practice enshrined by legislation?? The Tore's have always had the approach that when faced with facts; attack the messenger. Straight out of the Murdoch press handbook

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Turnbull supporting Kirsty O'Connell in Hunter bi election over the nationals is a shocker and typical of the flog turnbull.
Hand in your liberal membership you Ghost
You only seem to see Turnbull and Rudd in the media
Gillard, Abbott, Howard etc keep to themselves

Haha, mate Turnbull is the closest thing to a classical small "L" liberal, as in the party that Menzies founded, blokes like Morisson and Dutton are continuing to convert the Liberal party into a Tory party.

Howard is often quoted in the media, so I am not sure where you get that from.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

When the national conference rolls up for the ALP, you see the ex PM's there, yet all the Tore ex PM's seem to disappear.
Fraser handed back his membership when he was alive, Malcom T actively works against the Tore's.
Howard's legacy is and will be dealt with by History, but remember the Tore's claim to be the greatest money managers falls on deaf ears when one does a little reading. The largest non war time deficit left this country was after eight years of Howard as treasurer. Try reading that in a Murdoch media

No need the Guardian and the ABC lean so far left they fall over

Are you talking about the ABC who have presenters & journalists whom were long affiliated with the Liberal party like Amanda Vanstone, Pru Goward & Sarah Henderson? I am sure there's more.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Feds funnelling massive subsidies into gas plants and coal. Will probably sell them for a song to private entities at significant cost upon completion. Corporate welfare once again while the average punter continually gets dicked.

Why are Conservatives against the free market?

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

When the national conference rolls up for the ALP, you see the ex PM's there, yet all the Tore ex PM's seem to disappear.
Fraser handed back his membership when he was alive, Malcom T actively works against the Tore's.
Howard's legacy is and will be dealt with by History, but remember the Tore's claim to be the greatest money managers falls on deaf ears when one does a little reading. The largest non war time deficit left this country was after eight years of Howard as treasurer. Try reading that in a Murdoch media

No need the Guardian and the ABC lean so far left they fall over

Are you talking about the ABC who have presenters & journalists whom were long affiliated with the Liberal party like Amanda Vanstone, Pru Goward & Sarah Henderson? I am sure there's more.

oh yes Q&A and 7.30 report etc are really balanced journalism ... please
At least skynews doesn't pretend to be impartial

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

When the national conference rolls up for the ALP, you see the ex PM's there, yet all the Tore ex PM's seem to disappear.
Fraser handed back his membership when he was alive, Malcom T actively works against the Tore's.
Howard's legacy is and will be dealt with by History, but remember the Tore's claim to be the greatest money managers falls on deaf ears when one does a little reading. The largest non war time deficit left this country was after eight years of Howard as treasurer. Try reading that in a Murdoch media

No need the Guardian and the ABC lean so far left they fall over

Are you talking about the ABC who have presenters & journalists whom were long affiliated with the Liberal party like Amanda Vanstone, Pru Goward & Sarah Henderson? I am sure there's more.

oh yes Q&A and 7.30 report etc are really balanced journalism ... please
At least skynews doesn't pretend to be impartial

I honestly think you believe that impartial means kowtowing to the Liberal party.

How good's national debt?!

 

[Enmoretiger 0]

Sky News, after dark; wow that borders on pure propaganda, Corbels would have been proud of what those good folks turn out. Alan Jones still banging on that COVID is being taken too seriously and India just needs to toughen up.
Yep SKY the home of utter right wing BS

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

When the national conference rolls up for the ALP, you see the ex PM's there, yet all the Tore ex PM's seem to disappear.
Fraser handed back his membership when he was alive, Malcom T actively works against the Tore's.
Howard's legacy is and will be dealt with by History, but remember the Tore's claim to be the greatest money managers falls on deaf ears when one does a little reading. The largest non war time deficit left this country was after eight years of Howard as treasurer. Try reading that in a Murdoch media

No need the Guardian and the ABC lean so far left they fall over

Are you talking about the ABC who have presenters & journalists whom were long affiliated with the Liberal party like Amanda Vanstone, Pru Goward & Sarah Henderson? I am sure there's more.

oh yes Q&A and 7.30 report etc are really balanced journalism ... please
At least skynews doesn't pretend to be impartial

I honestly think you believe that impartial means kowtowing to the Liberal party.

How good's national debt?!

or aunty cowering to Labor has been the same for 20 years as our national taxpayer broadcaster they shoukd be more balanced.

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

Sky News, after dark; wow that borders on pure propaganda, Corbels would have been proud of what those good folks turn out. Alan Jones still banging on that COVID is being taken too seriously and India just needs to toughen up.
Yep SKY the home of utter right wing BS

I forgot what a wonderful and insightful show Q&A is, let's roll out Turnbull in the leather jacket

 

[BZN]

Sky News, after dark; wow that borders on pure propaganda, Corbels would have been proud of what those good folks turn out. Alan Jones still banging on that COVID is being taken too seriously and India just needs to toughen up.
Yep SKY the home of utter right wing BS

The Libs of the day that gave us our wonderful...not...internet a few years ago should be tied to a stake and burned like they are currently doing in India with their Covid dead.
My internet, in the Upper Hunter Valley has been 'limited' for the past couple of days and will still be for the next few days at least, due to upgrades having to be done.
I obviously didnt vote Libs/Nat's...I voted 1..2..3..4 Independents.
And of course the reason for this by-election is due to the elected bloke being suspended due to some sort of serious sexual allegations.
Ps...I had my Covid jab yesterday and no problem so far :hand_with_index_and_middle_fingers_crossed:

 

[jadtiger]

When the national conference rolls up for the ALP, you see the ex PM's there, yet all the Tore ex PM's seem to disappear.
Fraser handed back his membership when he was alive, Malcom T actively works against the Tore's.
Howard's legacy is and will be dealt with by History, but remember the Tore's claim to be the greatest money managers falls on deaf ears when one does a little reading. The largest non war time deficit left this country was after eight years of Howard as treasurer. Try reading that in a Murdoch media

No need the Guardian and the ABC lean so far left they fall over

Are you talking about the ABC who have presenters & journalists whom were long affiliated with the Liberal party like Amanda Vanstone, Pru Goward & Sarah Henderson? I am sure there's more.

oh yes Q&A and 7.30 report etc are really balanced journalism ... please
At least skynews doesn't pretend to be impartial

I honestly think you believe that impartial means kowtowing to the Liberal party.

How good's national debt?!

or aunty cowering to Labor has been the same for 20 years as our national taxpayer broadcaster they shoukd be more balanced.

The ABC is very balanced because they criticize both sides of politics,Murdochs media only criticize one side of politics because the other side does exactly what Rupert wants.

 

[Tiger5150]

**Howard's legacy is and will be dealt with by History**, but remember the Tore's claim to be the greatest money managers falls on deaf ears when one does a little reading. **The largest non war time ***deficit*** left this country was after eight years of Howard as treasurer.** Try reading that in a Murdoch media

I can guarantee you will never read that in a Murdoch Media....or any media. Mostly because its completely made up and not true. Largest deficits were in 2010 and second biggest was 1993.

As you are discussing Howards legacy, and deficits it would make sense that for the last 11years of Howards Prime Ministership, there was **NO** deficits and that for **EVERY** year since Howard, we have had a deficit.

Unless of course you meant debt and not deficit? In which case you are still wrong and Govt debt was at its lowest at the end of Howards reign and has gotten continuously worse since.

https://tradingeconomics.com/australia/government-budget

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

When the national conference rolls up for the ALP, you see the ex PM's there, yet all the Tore ex PM's seem to disappear.
Fraser handed back his membership when he was alive, Malcom T actively works against the Tore's.
Howard's legacy is and will be dealt with by History, but remember the Tore's claim to be the greatest money managers falls on deaf ears when one does a little reading. The largest non war time deficit left this country was after eight years of Howard as treasurer. Try reading that in a Murdoch media

No need the Guardian and the ABC lean so far left they fall over

Are you talking about the ABC who have presenters & journalists whom were long affiliated with the Liberal party like Amanda Vanstone, Pru Goward & Sarah Henderson? I am sure there's more.

oh yes Q&A and 7.30 report etc are really balanced journalism ... please
At least skynews doesn't pretend to be impartial

I honestly think you believe that impartial means kowtowing to the Liberal party.

How good's national debt?!

or aunty cowering to Labor has been the same for 20 years as our national taxpayer broadcaster they shoukd be more balanced.

How dare the national broadcaster hold government to account for abhorrent performance!

Is this the same ABC that did a total hatchet job on Gillard and Rudd with the Killing Season? That ABC that apparently cowers to Labor?