Politics Super Thread - keep it all in here

[stryker 69]

I’m not blaming a woman for being raped,Im saying they put themselves sometimes in the position that lead guys on...

How so?…the way they dress?…the way they dance on the grog?
I do not agree. I live in the tropics mate, long legs, tits and arse for days. Never crossed my mind to treat them like that.
You know what sort of guys do treat them like that? Usually it’s the ones saying they were asking for it.

 

[jadtiger]

Champ I have tried to help you and your mate but even I cannot help stupid

That would explain why you haven't been capable of helping yourself during your life

 

[Lee's fedora]

Sorry mate ,Im not blaming a woman for being raped,Im saying they put themselves sometimes in the position that lead guys on...read my other post...AND to claryify,I dont for one minute think rape is ok ...men that do that shit deserve to be incarcerated and the key thrown away...but lets not think that its always the guys fault ...thats why the Roe v Wade was overturned.....the WOMAN LIED....

Or you know men could just not rape women there is a thought

Thats like saying paedophilia is okay cause the kids put themselves in that position

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Jesus Zig, a very strange hill to die on.

 

[CloudyGlock]

To be fair Jad the over turning of that RvW decision was because the woman lied....

The SCOTUS decision had nothing to do with any woman lying. It was a decision on whether it was constitutional.

 

[CloudyGlock]

I can understand that you are against abortion because of your religious beliefs even though i disagree with it.However do you still believe that a woman should be forced to have a child if she was raped or it is a case of incest and she falls pregnant?Both will still be illegal under the ruling and to be honest many abortions are performed because the woman/family can not provide for the child due to poverty.
I am not saying i have the answers but this ruling is a throwback to the middle ages,women will be desperate to terminate unwanted pregnancies and will risk their lives as they always have in the past.

This is simply not true.

The SCOTUS ruling does not make abortion illegal. End of story.

All the SCOTUS ruling says is that there is nothing in the US Constitution that gives anyone a constitutional right to an abortion and therefore it now passes down to be ruled on by the States, which is exactly the same as the situation in Australia. People can now vote for the Govenors that they want in their states and if abortion is an important issue for them, they can vote accordingly.

For women in 22 States right now, absolutely nothing will change and in some of these States women have the right to an abortion up until delivery. In the other states, things may change to varying degrees. To any woman in California, New York, Wa, Pa, Oregon etc, absolutely nothing will change.

Im not pro life or pro abortion. I can see circumstances where its necessary and I can see circumstances where it should be banned. I think that this ruling will affect some women in some states in the US, I also think its important to be honest in the discussion.

 

[colinbh]

As usual you have no idea so you make it up, What was done is that the 9 members of the scotus decided that it was not their position to decide on abortion issues and have handed back the decisions of abortion back to each state and the people of each state, many will not change anything on abortion , some may become stricter and some may become more lenient on abortion issues. The power and decision are now back into the peoples hands , its called democracy but once again you want to twist things to advance you narrative. Please be informed

You are correct hugh1954. Nothing has changed in regard to the legality of abortion. The decision as to how abortion will be treated is now handed back to the individual states. The people of those states will decide re abortion. It*s called democracy. Anyone on here against democracy?

 

[PJ2]

I [This word has been automatically removed]ing love this thread

 

[Lee's fedora]

This is simply not true.

The SCOTUS ruling does not make abortion illegal. End of story.

All the SCOTUS ruling says is that there is nothing in the US Constitution that gives anyone a constitutional right to an abortion and therefore it now passes down to be ruled on by the States, which is exactly the same as the situation in Australia. People can now vote for the Govenors that they want in their states and if abortion is an important issue for them, they can vote accordingly.

For women in 22 States right now, absolutely nothing will change and in some of these States women have the right to an abortion up until delivery. In the other states, things may change to varying degrees. To any woman in California, New York, Wa, Pa, Oregon etc, absolutely nothing will change.

Im not pro life or pro abortion. I can see circumstances where its necessary and I can see circumstances where it should be banned. I think that this ruling will affect some women in some states in the US, I also think its important to be honest in the discussion.

Circumstances like an ectopic pregnancy which potentially leads to the death of baby and mother

 

[CloudyGlock]

Circumstances like an ectopic pregnancy which potentially leads to the death of baby and mother

What does that have to do with the SCOTUS decision?

*an ectopic pregnancy is when the egg is fertilised in the fallopian tubes, its not a baby, or even an embryo. Clump of cells.

 

[Lee's fedora]

What does that have to do with the SCOTUS decision?

*an ectopic pregnancy is when the egg is fertilised in the fallopian tubes, its not a baby, or even an embryo. Clump of cells.

Which if left alone can damage the organs they can actually and it can be there for several weeks and becomes a fetus which is why they go to abortion clinics to get rid of them

 

[CloudyGlock]

Which if left alone can damage the organs they can actually and it can be there for several weeks and becomes a fetus which is why they go to abortion clinics to get rid of them

Yeah its bad news, I had a family member had one and she lost the tubes and ovary on one side.

Still not sure why its relevant to the SCOTUS decision?

 

[Lee's fedora]

Yeah its bad news, I had a family member had one and she lost the tubes and ovary on one side.

Still not sure why its relevant to the SCOTUS decision?

Clinics will close in places that abortion is made illegal which means they can't get things like ectopic pregnancy treated

 

[CloudyGlock]

Clinics will close in places that abortion is made illegal which means they can't get things like ectopic pregnancy treated

Clinics closing will not be because of the SCOTUS decision, it will be because of a state law passed.

Personally i think an ectopic pregnancy would be treated as a medical emergency in a hospital anyway (exactly as it is in Aus)

 

[Merlot]

maybe if they cut off the Scrotum decision,the ladies may have bn happy,when is a fetaus a life?if a woman decides 2 end a life is it ok 2 charge some one with double murder if that life is not formed yet,devil's advocate

 

[InBenjiWeTrust]

Yuri Bezmenov, ex KGB agent

 

[Suzie-Q]

I can understand that you are against abortion because of your religious beliefs even though i disagree with it.However do you still believe that a woman should be forced to have a child if she was raped or it is a case of incest and she falls pregnant?Both will still be illegal under the ruling and to be honest many abortions are performed because the woman/family can not provide for the child due to poverty.
I am not saying i have the answers but this ruling is a throwback to the middle ages,women will be desperate to terminate unwanted pregnancies and will risk their lives as they always have in the past.

Totally agree, Jad. Also, ectopic pregnancies. But really, whose choice is it? The woman. End of.

 

[Suzie-Q]

A woman putting herself in the position to be raped by a guy that can’t help himself?
Sorry I refuse to allow the excuse that a guy can’t help himself. Don’t rape it isn’t complicated. Women should be able to dress however they please, how acwoman dresses is no excuse. To say men can’t help themselves is favouring one gender.

Right, Krissy! Imagine being a bloke and admitting that blokes can't control themselves and NOT rape. How bloody disrespectful to most men. ... I actually don't have the words to articulate what I'm feeling ... just wow ...

 

[GNR4LIFE]

A bit of a long watch, but a great take down of this Newsmax douchebag and his nonsensical take on the backlash to the overturn of Roe v Wade.

 

[Earl]

Right, Krissy! Imagine being a bloke and admitting that blokes can't control themselves and NOT rape. How bloody disrespectful to most men. ... I actually don't have the words to articulate what I'm feeling ... just wow ...

This is so dumb. There is no way that I or any man I know well enough would ever rape a woman. It doesn't matter it she was walking down the street naked.

Anyone who says anything differently is a disgrace of a human being.