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Can’t wait to see George Santos chair a committee. The GOP needs go getters like him.
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Go get a fake Uni Degree?
Go get a fake job?

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What is with America and Pathological Liars?
 
Do you read these? From your <ahem> Daily Mail article:

Although several sources recalled hearing about a 'general' warning from federal law enforcement that summer about possible foreign hacks, there's no evidence - that I've seen - of any government involvement in the laptop story.
Yoss, you've pulled the cute <ahem> Daily Mail thing in this post and the Joe Rogan...ah yes... trick, I assume to disparage the source. The article referencing Joe Rogan is Mark Zuckerbergs words out of his own mouth, the Daily Mail Article prints screengrabs, verbatim of Matt Taibi's screengrabs of Twitter emails about suppressing the Hunter Biden story. Im with you that Daily Mail and Joe Rogan arent exactly peer reviewed sources, but words out of Zucks mouth and screenshots of teh Twitter emails are about as close to the source as we are going to get no?

Its a discussion in a politics thread and I get that everyone (except me) is going to have their side and defend it and try to pull apart any criticism or argument that "hurts" their side, but Im genuinely puzzled how you (or anyone) can obfuscate these facts.

Out of the information Ive sent today, do you see anything that doesnt clearly demonstrate the following?
  1. The Hunter Biden laptop is real and the hard drive is real and currently held by the FBI,
  2. At least 22,000 of the emails on the hard drive have been verified as genuine,
  3. None of the emails or files have been proven or verified as fake,
  4. After the FBI received the laptop, they directly approached Meta and Twitter and warned that there would be information coming that is almost certainly Russian disinformation and they should bear this in mind,
  5. Twitter actively suppressed all discussion regarding the Hunter Biden laptop prior to the election.
I genuinely dont see how anyone can argue against any of these facts and then I cant understand based on these facts why anyone wouldnt think that there is something there that needs investigation.
 
Whataboutism and never holding your team to the same standards. Earl has just shown that plenty in the last few pages, openly calls Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon corrupt, although never providing any citation and then appears to not give a hoot about the plethora of issues with receipts about Biden. The hive mind
Why on earth would giving your Daughter's company exclusive Chinese trading rights be Corrupt!
Or why Saudi are packing 2 Billion dollars to Jared...

Heck deathsantis wants $2000 per dose for Remdesvir! Anyone got a spare $2000 next time their family gets Covid. Kind of makes you wonder why deathie pushed no face masks, has to be freedom and not Corruption and kickbacks from Remdesvir.

Makes tony abbott's "Give Andrew Rob a Job", he just negotiated Australia's trade deal, cmon guys give Rob a plush corporate job!! Do we need to mention John "pork barrel" Barra or Gladys "rip up bankstown line for single deckers" Bj?

Thankfully we have a Corporate ICAC, hope that can throw out the federal corruption and help steer us away from American Garbage.
 
From your <ahem> Daily Mail article:

Although several sources recalled hearing about a 'general' warning from federal law enforcement that summer about possible foreign hacks, there's no evidence - that I've seen - of any government involvement in the laptop story.
Do you read these? The left wing push back theory has been debunked so much it aint funny.

This is a glaring and embarrassing misreading of the meaning of the tweet: “Although several sources recalled hearing about a “general” warning from federal law enforcement that summer about possible foreign hacks, there’s no evidence – that I’ve seen – of any government involvement in the laptop story.”

This refers to any Russian government involvement i.e. it wasn’t Russian disinformation.

The key point here is a trust issue. The mainstream/legacy media all reported on this as being Russian disinformation without a shred of evidence, and then they colluded with Big Tech to suppress the story right before the election.

The story is about Joe Biden’s shady business deals in Ukraine and China.

I don’t understand how people aggressively and actively still don’t seem to get it, or maybe I do.
 
Why on earth would giving your Daughter's company exclusive Chinese trading rights be Corrupt!
Or why Saudi are packing 2 Billion dollars to Jared...

Heck deathsantis wants $2000 per dose for Remdesvir! Anyone got a spare $2000 next time their family gets Covid. Kind of makes you wonder why deathie pushed no face masks, has to be freedom and not Corruption and kickbacks from Remdesvir.

Makes tony abbott's "Give Andrew Rob a Job", he just negotiated Australia's trade deal, cmon guys give Rob a plush corporate job!! Do we need to mention John "pork barrel" Barra or Gladys "rip up bankstown line for single deckers" Bj?

Thankfully we have a Corporate ICAC, hope that can throw out the federal corruption and help steer us away from American Garbage.
Are we talking about the insanely corrupt Biden crime family here with Joes brother and Hunters Chinese and Ukraine business payoffs/deals or Trumps son in law?
 
US POLITICS SUCKS. It really SUCKS, it is seriously bad. Only a few people are making worthwhile ideas in an awful system. Looking at US politics is like looking into a toilet and trying to understand the last user.

I hear this^ It SUCKS, their committee system sucks. Motions get moved to committes and never out. I get it the system sucks.
Is there any chance you can tell us what you really think about US Politics?
 
Yoss, you've pulled the cute <ahem> Daily Mail thing in this post and the Joe Rogan...ah yes... trick, I assume to disparage the source. The article referencing Joe Rogan is Mark Zuckerbergs words out of his own mouth, the Daily Mail Article prints screengrabs, verbatim of Matt Taibi's screengrabs of Twitter emails about suppressing the Hunter Biden story. Im with you that Daily Mail and Joe Rogan arent exactly peer reviewed sources, but words out of Zucks mouth and screenshots of teh Twitter emails are about as close to the source as we are going to get no?

Its a discussion in a politics thread and I get that everyone (except me) is going to have their side and defend it and try to pull apart any criticism or argument that "hurts" their side, but Im genuinely puzzled how you (or anyone) can obfuscate these facts.

Out of the information Ive sent today, do you see anything that doesnt clearly demonstrate the following?
  1. The Hunter Biden laptop is real and the hard drive is real and currently held by the FBI,
  2. At least 22,000 of the emails on the hard drive have been verified as genuine,
  3. None of the emails or files have been proven or verified as fake,
  4. After the FBI received the laptop, they directly approached Meta and Twitter and warned that there would be information coming that is almost certainly Russian disinformation and they should bear this in mind,
  5. Twitter actively suppressed all discussion regarding the Hunter Biden laptop prior to the election.
I genuinely dont see how anyone can argue against any of these facts and then I cant understand based on these facts why anyone wouldnt think that there is something there that needs investigation.
ROFL.
The "laptop" was a random laptop dumped at a computer repair store with a post-it note saying "Biden". The emails aren't even real emails. They have no "headers" that's the "too: section".
They are as credible as the Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon Diapers, these Diapers were delivered to the whitehouse and Mar a Logo with the words "Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon" scribbled on red marker. They are for his "accidents".

If you believe the laptop, believe the Diapers.
 
Yoss, you've pulled the cute <ahem> Daily Mail thing in this post and the Joe Rogan...ah yes... trick, I assume to disparage the source. The article referencing Joe Rogan is Mark Zuckerbergs words out of his own mouth, the Daily Mail Article prints screengrabs, verbatim of Matt Taibi's screengrabs of Twitter emails about suppressing the Hunter Biden story. Im with you that Daily Mail and Joe Rogan arent exactly peer reviewed sources, but words out of Zucks mouth and screenshots of teh Twitter emails are about as close to the source as we are going to get no?

Its a discussion in a politics thread and I get that everyone (except me) is going to have their side and defend it and try to pull apart any criticism or argument that "hurts" their side, but Im genuinely puzzled how you (or anyone) can obfuscate these facts.

Out of the information Ive sent today, do you see anything that doesnt clearly demonstrate the following?
  1. The Hunter Biden laptop is real and the hard drive is real and currently held by the FBI,
  2. At least 22,000 of the emails on the hard drive have been verified as genuine,
  3. None of the emails or files have been proven or verified as fake,
  4. After the FBI received the laptop, they directly approached Meta and Twitter and warned that there would be information coming that is almost certainly Russian disinformation and they should bear this in mind,
  5. Twitter actively suppressed all discussion regarding the Hunter Biden laptop prior to the election.
I genuinely dont see how anyone can argue against any of these facts and then I cant understand based on these facts why anyone wouldnt think that there is something there that needs investigation.

Because Rogan is an idiot and the Daily Mail makes the Terror look fair and balanced.

Because you confuse “facts” with claims. To run through your list. You make claims not supported by up your sources. Zuckerberg says the FBI warned him about foreign disinformation campaigns. Zuckerberg says Hunter Biden was never mentioned. But you falsely claim the FBI caused Facebook to suppress the H Biden emails. That’s wrong. Then you have a journalist investigating Twitter self censorship. Again the article point black says their is no evidence of government coercion.

Yes there’s a laptop. Yes there’s some verifiable emails that represent a small fraction of those. Then there are others that may or may not be genuine. Not proven to be false does not equal definitely real.

The FBI approached social media companies to warn them about potential Russian disinformation campaigns, which did in fact occur. Nothing about either Biden. What action Meta/Facebook and Twitter took is up to them. No direction at all from the FBI or elsewhere according to your handpicked sources.
 
Are we talking about the insanely corrupt Biden crime family here with Joes brother and Hunters Chinese and Ukraine business payoffs/deals or Trumps son in law?
Mr trumps son in law. Which Mr Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon:
make a gov official.
did Dodgy real estate deals everywhere.
took 2 BILLION DOLLARS from the Saudi prince.

Hunter had a post-grad Degree, he got a wage of 500k, maybe he organised a meeting for people to meet Joe.
America Literally did a trade deal with China where the Focus was Ivanka's Shoe Business!

FIX Corruption, de-elect the corrupt and start with the biggest Corrupt idiots first.
America SUCKS, look to the mechanisms Australia has and how we have really helped purge a stack of Corruption out of our politics.

NSW ICAC had this Brilliant effect, it threw out the bad. Joe Tripodi, Lunchalot, Nick D, it also got Glady's temp hookup for a stack of Corruption.

Yes Glady's you could have done better and DONE better.
Were better without garbage politicians and clearing the garbage out is great. Start most corrupt to least.
 
Every US president seems to have a dodgy relative. Maybe we can start talking about Nixon’s brother next or Billy Carter…
 
Yoss, you've pulled the cute <ahem> Daily Mail thing in this post and the Joe Rogan...ah yes... trick, I assume to disparage the source. The article referencing Joe Rogan is Mark Zuckerbergs words out of his own mouth, the Daily Mail Article prints screengrabs, verbatim of Matt Taibi's screengrabs of Twitter emails about suppressing the Hunter Biden story. Im with you that Daily Mail and Joe Rogan arent exactly peer reviewed sources, but words out of Zucks mouth and screenshots of teh Twitter emails are about as close to the source as we are going to get no?

Its a discussion in a politics thread and I get that everyone (except me) is going to have their side and defend it and try to pull apart any criticism or argument that "hurts" their side, but Im genuinely puzzled how you (or anyone) can obfuscate these facts.

Out of the information Ive sent today, do you see anything that doesnt clearly demonstrate the following?
  1. The Hunter Biden laptop is real and the hard drive is real and currently held by the FBI,
  2. At least 22,000 of the emails on the hard drive have been verified as genuine,
  3. None of the emails or files have been proven or verified as fake,
  4. After the FBI received the laptop, they directly approached Meta and Twitter and warned that there would be information coming that is almost certainly Russian disinformation and they should bear this in mind,
  5. Twitter actively suppressed all discussion regarding the Hunter Biden laptop prior to the election.
I genuinely dont see how anyone can argue against any of these facts and then I cant understand based on these facts why anyone wouldnt think that there is something there that needs investigation.
Honestly friend, no matter how much you post with citation, claims backed with evidence you are hitting your head against a brick wall in here. The last few pages demonstrate that perfectly.
 
Because Rogan is an idiot and the Daily Mail makes the Terror look fair and balanced.

Because you confuse “facts” with claims. To run through your list. You make claims not supported by up your sources. Zuckerberg says the FBI warned him about foreign disinformation campaigns. Zuckerberg says Hunter Biden was never mentioned. But you falsely claim the FBI caused Facebook to suppress the H Biden emails. That’s wrong. Then you have a journalist investigating Twitter self censorship. Again the article point black says their is no evidence of government coercion.

Yes there’s a laptop. Yes there’s some verifiable emails that represent a small fraction of those. Then there are others that may or may not be genuine. Not proven to be false does not equal definitely real.

The FBI approached social media companies to warn them about potential Russian disinformation campaigns, which did in fact occur. Nothing about either Biden. What action Meta/Facebook and Twitter took is up to them. No direction at all from the FBI or elsewhere according to your handpicked sources.
I wonder what Elvis Chan thinks about you completely ignoring all of his work?
 
No, they're saying they're difficult to fabricate, not impossible.

Oh come on...they are verified to the highest standard possible.
Again, where is the evidence that President Biden did anything illegal or otherwise actionable?
Here....
128K emails all searchable but I'll share some highlights...
Remember....Joe swore during the election he had never met any of Hunters business associates....

"Hunter Biden introduced his father, then-Vice President Joe Biden, to a top executive at a Ukrainian energy firm less than a year before the elder Biden pressured government officials in Ukraine into firing a prosecutor who was investigating the company, according to emails obtained by The Post.

The never-before-revealed meeting is mentioned in a message of appreciation that Vadym Pozharskyi, an adviser to the board of Burisma, allegedly sent Hunter Biden on April 17, 2015, about a year after Hunter joined the Burisma board at a reported salary of up to $50,000 a month.

“Dear Hunter, thank you for inviting me to DC and giving an opportunity to meet your father and spent [sic] some time together. It’s realty [sic] an honor and pleasure,” the email reads."

An earlier email from May 2014 also shows Pozharskyi, reportedly Burisma’s No. 3 exec, asking Hunter for “advice on how you could use your influence” on the company’s behalf.



The blockbuster correspondence — which flies in the face of Joe Biden’s claim that he’s “never spoken to my son about his overseas business dealings” — is contained in a massive trove of data recovered from a laptop computer."

The emails also show that Hunter and his Uncle received US$11M from a Chinese Energy company and that the email says that 10% is held by H for the big guy. Hunter Bidens previous business partner Bobulinski has said that H is Hunter and the Big Guy is Joe Biden.

Emails from Pozharskyi
Pozharskyi said that “the representatives of new authorities in power tend to quite aggressively approach N. Z. unofficially with the aim to obtain cash from him.”
N.Z. isn’t identified in the email but appears to be a reference to Burisma founder Mykola Zlochevsky, whose first name is a Ukrainian version of “Nicholas.”
When the alleged shakedown failed, “they proceeded with concrete actions” in the form of “one or more pretrial proceedings,” Pozharskyi wrote.
“We urgently need your advice on how you could use your influence to convey a message / signal, etc .to stop what we consider to be politically motivated actions,” he added.

Of course after this, whilst Vice President, Joe Biden directly threatened the Ukrainian government to have the prosecutor sacked.

On April 13 2014 Hunter Biden sends an email to a Burisma board member and his business associate trying to get more money out of them because of his dad visiting Ukraine and leveraging that influence.

Archer-Biden-email-graphic.jpg


In a 2019 message to his daughter Hunter says "I hope you all can do what I did and pay for everything for this entire family for 30 years,It's really hard. But don't worry, unlike Pop [Joe Biden], I won't make you give me half your salary."

There is a lot more including horrible stuff like Hunters affair with his dead brothers widow which includes an email telling her to get checked for STI's.

Im sure you will argue that there is no smoking gun in any of this, and I wouldnt disagree with you, but clearly there is enough to warrant an investigation.
 
Oh come on...they are verified to the highest standard possible.

Here....
128K emails all searchable but I'll share some highlights...
Remember....Joe swore during the election he had never met any of Hunters business associates....

"Hunter Biden introduced his father, then-Vice President Joe Biden, to a top executive at a Ukrainian energy firm less than a year before the elder Biden pressured government officials in Ukraine into firing a prosecutor who was investigating the company, according to emails obtained by The Post.

The never-before-revealed meeting is mentioned in a message of appreciation that Vadym Pozharskyi, an adviser to the board of Burisma, allegedly sent Hunter Biden on April 17, 2015, about a year after Hunter joined the Burisma board at a reported salary of up to $50,000 a month.

“Dear Hunter, thank you for inviting me to DC and giving an opportunity to meet your father and spent [sic] some time together. It’s realty [sic] an honor and pleasure,” the email reads."

An earlier email from May 2014 also shows Pozharskyi, reportedly Burisma’s No. 3 exec, asking Hunter for “advice on how you could use your influence” on the company’s behalf.



The blockbuster correspondence — which flies in the face of Joe Biden’s claim that he’s “never spoken to my son about his overseas business dealings” — is contained in a massive trove of data recovered from a laptop computer."

The emails also show that Hunter and his Uncle received US$11M from a Chinese Energy company and that the email says that 10% is held by H for the big guy. Hunter Bidens previous business partner Bobulinski has said that H is Hunter and the Big Guy is Joe Biden.

Emails from Pozharskyi
Pozharskyi said that “the representatives of new authorities in power tend to quite aggressively approach N. Z. unofficially with the aim to obtain cash from him.”
N.Z. isn’t identified in the email but appears to be a reference to Burisma founder Mykola Zlochevsky, whose first name is a Ukrainian version of “Nicholas.”
When the alleged shakedown failed, “they proceeded with concrete actions” in the form of “one or more pretrial proceedings,” Pozharskyi wrote.
“We urgently need your advice on how you could use your influence to convey a message / signal, etc .to stop what we consider to be politically motivated actions,” he added.

Of course after this, whilst Vice President, Joe Biden directly threatened the Ukrainian government to have the prosecutor sacked.

On April 13 2014 Hunter Biden sends an email to a Burisma board member and his business associate trying to get more money out of them because of his dad visiting Ukraine and leveraging that influence.

Archer-Biden-email-graphic.jpg


In a 2019 message to his daughter Hunter says "I hope you all can do what I did and pay for everything for this entire family for 30 years,It's really hard. But don't worry, unlike Pop [Joe Biden], I won't make you give me half your salary."

There is a lot more including horrible stuff like Hunters affair with his dead brothers widow which includes an email telling her to get checked for STI's.

Im sure you will argue that there is no smoking gun in any of this, and I wouldnt disagree with you, but clearly there is enough to warrant an investigation.
Yeah but Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon
 
Because Rogan is an idiot and the Daily Mail makes the Terror look fair and balanced.

Because you confuse “facts” with claims. To run through your list. You make claims not supported by up your sources. Zuckerberg says the FBI warned him about foreign disinformation campaigns. Zuckerberg says Hunter Biden was never mentioned. But you falsely claim the FBI caused Facebook to suppress the H Biden emails. That’s wrong. Then you have a journalist investigating Twitter self censorship. Again the article point black says their is no evidence of government coercion.

Yes there’s a laptop. Yes there’s some verifiable emails that represent a small fraction of those. Then there are others that may or may not be genuine. Not proven to be false does not equal definitely real.

The FBI approached social media companies to warn them about potential Russian disinformation campaigns, which did in fact occur. Nothing about either Biden. What action Meta/Facebook and Twitter took is up to them. No direction at all from the FBI or elsewhere according to your handpicked sources.

Yoss I concede there isnt a direct link between the FBI warning and the Twitter suppression, in that they didnt name the Hunter Biden laptop, but the timing was directly after.Zuckerberg knew what it referred to, he said it out of his own mouth that when the laptop information arrived he knoew that tihs is what FBI were referring to.

Even if its all just a big coincidence between the FBI & Meta/twitter and Im wrong about that, you are cool with all the other information in the verified emails? Nothing worth investigating? No problem with Biden saying he never met hunters associates despite all the photos of the meetings and emails thanking Hunter for introducing them?
 
Oh come on...they are verified to the highest standard possible.

Here....
128K emails all searchable but I'll share some highlights...
Remember....Joe swore during the election he had never met any of Hunters business associates....

"Hunter Biden introduced his father, then-Vice President Joe Biden, to a top executive at a Ukrainian energy firm less than a year before the elder Biden pressured government officials in Ukraine into firing a prosecutor who was investigating the company, according to emails obtained by The Post.

The never-before-revealed meeting is mentioned in a message of appreciation that Vadym Pozharskyi, an adviser to the board of Burisma, allegedly sent Hunter Biden on April 17, 2015, about a year after Hunter joined the Burisma board at a reported salary of up to $50,000 a month.

“Dear Hunter, thank you for inviting me to DC and giving an opportunity to meet your father and spent [sic] some time together. It’s realty [sic] an honor and pleasure,” the email reads."

An earlier email from May 2014 also shows Pozharskyi, reportedly Burisma’s No. 3 exec, asking Hunter for “advice on how you could use your influence” on the company’s behalf.



The blockbuster correspondence — which flies in the face of Joe Biden’s claim that he’s “never spoken to my son about his overseas business dealings” — is contained in a massive trove of data recovered from a laptop computer."

The emails also show that Hunter and his Uncle received US$11M from a Chinese Energy company and that the email says that 10% is held by H for the big guy. Hunter Bidens previous business partner Bobulinski has said that H is Hunter and the Big Guy is Joe Biden.

Emails from Pozharskyi
Pozharskyi said that “the representatives of new authorities in power tend to quite aggressively approach N. Z. unofficially with the aim to obtain cash from him.”
N.Z. isn’t identified in the email but appears to be a reference to Burisma founder Mykola Zlochevsky, whose first name is a Ukrainian version of “Nicholas.”
When the alleged shakedown failed, “they proceeded with concrete actions” in the form of “one or more pretrial proceedings,” Pozharskyi wrote.
“We urgently need your advice on how you could use your influence to convey a message / signal, etc .to stop what we consider to be politically motivated actions,” he added.

Of course after this, whilst Vice President, Joe Biden directly threatened the Ukrainian government to have the prosecutor sacked.

On April 13 2014 Hunter Biden sends an email to a Burisma board member and his business associate trying to get more money out of them because of his dad visiting Ukraine and leveraging that influence.

Archer-Biden-email-graphic.jpg


In a 2019 message to his daughter Hunter says "I hope you all can do what I did and pay for everything for this entire family for 30 years,It's really hard. But don't worry, unlike Pop [Joe Biden], I won't make you give me half your salary."

There is a lot more including horrible stuff like Hunters affair with his dead brothers widow which includes an email telling her to get checked for STI's.

Im sure you will argue that there is no smoking gun in any of this, and I wouldnt disagree with you, but clearly there is enough to warrant an investigation.
Beautiful thorough work but not a single soul on the other side will even bother to acknowledge it or will deliberately misinterpret it. Frustrating when they can never produce a sentence of evidence against their claims and accusations. I can see your account getting mass reported tonight.
 
Yoss I concede there isnt a direct link between the FBI warning and the Twitter suppression, in that they didnt name the Hunter Biden laptop, but the timing was directly after.Zuckerberg knew what it referred to, he said it out of his own mouth that when the laptop information arrived he knoew that tihs is what FBI were referring to.

Even if its all just a big coincidence between the FBI & Meta/twitter and Im wrong about that, you are cool with all the other information in the verified emails? Nothing worth investigating? No problem with Biden saying he never met hunters associates despite all the photos of the meetings and emails thanking Hunter for introducing them?

That he made that connection is down to him.

Of course it should be investigated if there’s credible evidence to support an investigation. But unless President Biden made that claim under oath what’s to investigate?
 
Oh come on...they are verified to the highest standard possible.

Here....
128K emails all searchable but I'll share some highlights...
Remember....Joe swore during the election he had never met any of Hunters business associates....

"Hunter Biden introduced his father, then-Vice President Joe Biden, to a top executive at a Ukrainian energy firm less than a year before the elder Biden pressured government officials in Ukraine into firing a prosecutor who was investigating the company, according to emails obtained by The Post.

The never-before-revealed meeting is mentioned in a message of appreciation that Vadym Pozharskyi, an adviser to the board of Burisma, allegedly sent Hunter Biden on April 17, 2015, about a year after Hunter joined the Burisma board at a reported salary of up to $50,000 a month.

“Dear Hunter, thank you for inviting me to DC and giving an opportunity to meet your father and spent [sic] some time together. It’s realty [sic] an honor and pleasure,” the email reads."

An earlier email from May 2014 also shows Pozharskyi, reportedly Burisma’s No. 3 exec, asking Hunter for “advice on how you could use your influence” on the company’s behalf.



The blockbuster correspondence — which flies in the face of Joe Biden’s claim that he’s “never spoken to my son about his overseas business dealings” — is contained in a massive trove of data recovered from a laptop computer."

The emails also show that Hunter and his Uncle received US$11M from a Chinese Energy company and that the email says that 10% is held by H for the big guy. Hunter Bidens previous business partner Bobulinski has said that H is Hunter and the Big Guy is Joe Biden.

Emails from Pozharskyi
Pozharskyi said that “the representatives of new authorities in power tend to quite aggressively approach N. Z. unofficially with the aim to obtain cash from him.”
N.Z. isn’t identified in the email but appears to be a reference to Burisma founder Mykola Zlochevsky, whose first name is a Ukrainian version of “Nicholas.”
When the alleged shakedown failed, “they proceeded with concrete actions” in the form of “one or more pretrial proceedings,” Pozharskyi wrote.
“We urgently need your advice on how you could use your influence to convey a message / signal, etc .to stop what we consider to be politically motivated actions,” he added.

Of course after this, whilst Vice President, Joe Biden directly threatened the Ukrainian government to have the prosecutor sacked.

On April 13 2014 Hunter Biden sends an email to a Burisma board member and his business associate trying to get more money out of them because of his dad visiting Ukraine and leveraging that influence.

Archer-Biden-email-graphic.jpg


In a 2019 message to his daughter Hunter says "I hope you all can do what I did and pay for everything for this entire family for 30 years,It's really hard. But don't worry, unlike Pop [Joe Biden], I won't make you give me half your salary."

There is a lot more including horrible stuff like Hunters affair with his dead brothers widow which includes an email telling her to get checked for STI's.

Im sure you will argue that there is no smoking gun in any of this, and I wouldnt disagree with you, but clearly there is enough to warrant an investigation.
Very thorough reply 5150.
At the very least it should be investigated.
 
Oh come on...they are verified to the highest standard possible.

Here....
128K emails all searchable but I'll share some highlights...
Remember....Joe swore during the election he had never met any of Hunters business associates....

"Hunter Biden introduced his father, then-Vice President Joe Biden, to a top executive at a Ukrainian energy firm less than a year before the elder Biden pressured government officials in Ukraine into firing a prosecutor who was investigating the company, according to emails obtained by The Post.

The never-before-revealed meeting is mentioned in a message of appreciation that Vadym Pozharskyi, an adviser to the board of Burisma, allegedly sent Hunter Biden on April 17, 2015, about a year after Hunter joined the Burisma board at a reported salary of up to $50,000 a month.

“Dear Hunter, thank you for inviting me to DC and giving an opportunity to meet your father and spent [sic] some time together. It’s realty [sic] an honor and pleasure,” the email reads."

An earlier email from May 2014 also shows Pozharskyi, reportedly Burisma’s No. 3 exec, asking Hunter for “advice on how you could use your influence” on the company’s behalf.



The blockbuster correspondence — which flies in the face of Joe Biden’s claim that he’s “never spoken to my son about his overseas business dealings” — is contained in a massive trove of data recovered from a laptop computer."

The emails also show that Hunter and his Uncle received US$11M from a Chinese Energy company and that the email says that 10% is held by H for the big guy. Hunter Bidens previous business partner Bobulinski has said that H is Hunter and the Big Guy is Joe Biden.

Emails from Pozharskyi
Pozharskyi said that “the representatives of new authorities in power tend to quite aggressively approach N. Z. unofficially with the aim to obtain cash from him.”
N.Z. isn’t identified in the email but appears to be a reference to Burisma founder Mykola Zlochevsky, whose first name is a Ukrainian version of “Nicholas.”
When the alleged shakedown failed, “they proceeded with concrete actions” in the form of “one or more pretrial proceedings,” Pozharskyi wrote.
“We urgently need your advice on how you could use your influence to convey a message / signal, etc .to stop what we consider to be politically motivated actions,” he added.

Of course after this, whilst Vice President, Joe Biden directly threatened the Ukrainian government to have the prosecutor sacked.

On April 13 2014 Hunter Biden sends an email to a Burisma board member and his business associate trying to get more money out of them because of his dad visiting Ukraine and leveraging that influence.

Archer-Biden-email-graphic.jpg


In a 2019 message to his daughter Hunter says "I hope you all can do what I did and pay for everything for this entire family for 30 years,It's really hard. But don't worry, unlike Pop [Joe Biden], I won't make you give me half your salary."

There is a lot more including horrible stuff like Hunters affair with his dead brothers widow which includes an email telling her to get checked for STI's.

Im sure you will argue that there is no smoking gun in any of this, and I wouldnt disagree with you, but clearly there is enough to warrant an investigation.

Hasn’t there already been an investigation?

But we’ll have to disagree on the veracity of the emails. I dispute they’ve been “verified to the highest standard possible.” Best case is they can’t be determined one way or another.

Then there’s this:

Several emails within a cache of more than 128,700 emails allegedly associated with a Hunter Biden laptop that allies of and former staff of President Donald Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon are circulating show “signs of tampering,” according to a recent analysis.

Distributed Denial of Secrets, a nonprofit transparency journalism outlet focused on bringing newsworthy documents and data to light, published the findings Saturday.

“There are considerable issues with this dataset including signs of tampering, as well as misconceptions about its contents,” a write-up of the organization’s findings reads. “More than one altered or implanted emails was detected in a version of the dataset distributed by Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon allies and former staffers.”

Distributed Denial of Secrets, also known as DDoSecrets, published the 3.6 gigabyte dataset in full alongside the analysis “to counteract possible deceptions by persons with an agenda who are currently distributing the dataset without the relevant context or warnings,” it wrote.

Emma Best, a co-founder of DDoSecrets, tweeted May 21 that the “known altered emails have low impact,” but added that “their presence is significant. So is the inability to rule out others.” The altered emails were ones Best “found quickly” and “were relatively sloppy,” they said.

And this

In April 2022, The Washington Post reported that Mac Isaac said that he had seen claims about what the laptop contained that did not reflect what he had seen on the laptop: "I do know that there have been multiple attempts over the past year-and-a-half to insert questionable material into the laptop as in, not physically, but passing off this misinformation or disinformation as coming from the laptop. ... And that is a major concern of mine because I have fought tooth and nail to protect the integrity of this drive and to jeopardize that is going to mean that everything that I sacrificed will be for nothing."

And this

The analysts found that people other than Hunter Biden had repeatedly accessed and copied data for nearly three years; they also found evidence that people other than Biden had accessed and written files to the drive, both before and after the New York Post story. In September 2020, someone created six new folders on the drive, including with the names "Biden Burisma," "Big Guy File," "Salacious Pics Package" and "Hunter. Burisma Documents." One of the analysts found evidence someone may have accessed the drive contents from a West Coast location days after The New York Post published their stories about the laptop.
 
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