Politics Super Thread - keep it all in here

[Abraham]

Dems will take the House Col at the very least.

I'm not saying this guy has a crystal ball, but Larry Schweikart is one of the few people who correctly predicted the outcome of the 2016 election.

Here is a series of tweets he issued yesterday about the mid-terms. Specifies exactly where the data comes from and what it points to in terms of electoral outcomes . If he is even close to being correct with his preliminary numbers, the mid-terms will be a repeat of the 2016 results:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1052710045375295488.html

 

[magpiecol]

It is almost with every case of sexual abuse there are no witnesses or if by-standers are drunk it is almost the same effect. Due to the fact that Ford had complained in years earlier and due to her standing in the community I doubt that she would be lying. I hope I am not inadvertently putting down people of less standing. But Brett's demeanour showed his unsuitability for the court or any court.

For Cultured Bogan's delight I have been up against corrupt judges and they behaved better that Kav.

If I had been accused, without any proof whatsoever, of being a gang rapist, I would have re-acted exactly the same.

The dopey dems have pretty much ensured the reps keep both houses and the potus at the next election.

Well done.

Dems will take the House Col at the very least.

I'm not so sure.

The way the democrats are behaving, I wouldn't be surprised if the republicans get a bigger majority.

We will see.

 

[Spud_Murphy]

For the sake of the USA i hope the democrats get absolutely annihilated in the mid-terms.

It may force them to wake up and step back from the edge of total insanity, where they have moved so far to the left that Bernie Sanders looks like a moderating force these days.

No country can successfully prosper under far-left rule, and the Dems need to move back to the Centre-Left position, which has been left vacant for some time.

They didn't learn after Hillary's embarrassing loss, or after the loss of 1,000 seats under Obama, so let's see how long it takes for the penny to finally drop.

:righton:

Left, right, far left, far right - what a bunch of manufactured hoo-ha! None of them have any idea about anything….there is only one Kingdom.

 

[jadtiger]

Just under a 26% swing against the coalition government. Scomo and his merry men and token women have just had a taste of reality

 

[happy_tiger]

Just under a 26% swing against the coalition government. Scomo and his merry men and token women have just had a taste of reality

According to Sco Mo only 900 votes the difference now and a lot of postals to count

Usually you would find many of the postals in a seat like that go to the Coalition ….. might be a lot closer than initial reports

Phelps going off half cocked perhaps :wink:

 

[jadtiger]

Just under a 26% swing against the coalition government. Scomo and his merry men and token women have just had a taste of reality

According to Sco Mo only 900 votes the difference now and a lot of postals to count

Usually you would find many of the postals in a seat like that go to the Coalition ….. might be a lot closer than initial reports

Phelps going off half cocked perhaps :wink:

I am not sure where you are getting those figures from happy but all the media sources including fox/sky have declared it for Phelps with an unprecedented swing against any sitting government in this country.

 

[happy_tiger]

Just under a 26% swing against the coalition government. Scomo and his merry men and token women have just had a taste of reality

According to Sco Mo only 900 votes the difference now and a lot of postals to count

Usually you would find many of the postals in a seat like that go to the Coalition ….. might be a lot closer than initial reports

Phelps going off half cocked perhaps :wink:

I am not sure where you are getting those figures from happy but all the media sources including fox/sky have declared it for Phelps with an unprecedented swing against any sitting government in this country.

The figures come from Sco Mo

Unsure if true or not , he'd be an idiot if he doesn't concede if their goose is cooked

 

[happy_tiger]

Here is the article Jad

http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/phelps-set-to-win-wentworth-by-election-government-tries-to-hold-off-election-after-biggest-loss-in-by-election-history/ar-BBODsFV?li=AAgfYrC&ocid=ASUDHP

 

[jadtiger]

Here is the article Jad

http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/phelps-set-to-win-wentworth-by-election-government-tries-to-hold-off-election-after-biggest-loss-in-by-election-history/ar-BBODsFV?li=AAgfYrC&ocid=ASUDHP

Thanks Happy, irrespective of the final result it is a massive kick to the rear end of the government.

 

[happy_tiger]

Here is the article Jad

http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/phelps-set-to-win-wentworth-by-election-government-tries-to-hold-off-election-after-biggest-loss-in-by-election-history/ar-BBODsFV?li=AAgfYrC&ocid=ASUDHP

Thanks Happy, irrespective of the final result it is a massive kick to the rear end of the government.

Totally agree , losing a seat you have held since Federation is a massive issue :astonished:

 

[Yossarian]

If Phelps loses it's her own fault for preferencing the Libs. Her own preferences were never going to be a factor but she may have angered enough ALP and Green voters to sink her. I still think she wins though.

 

[Tim Sheens]

Huge vote against plenty of things. Conservative's ideals and stranglehold on the party wielding an imbalanced amount of power and removal of Turnbull, climate change, and archaic detention policies at the forefront.

 

[Tim Sheens]

I also note the huge turnout in London over Brexit, with about one percent of the nation's population attending. As more and more people over there realise just what their initial apathy or lack of information allowed for a reasoned decision, I see a second vote as the only viable decision and a decent majority needed to sort it out for good.

 

[happy_tiger]

I also note the huge turnout in London over Brexit, with about one percent of the nation's population attending. As more and more people over there realise just what their initial apathy or lack of information allowed for a reasoned decision, I see a second vote as the only viable decision and a decent majority needed to sort it out for good.

I'm not sure if I heard this correctly last night on BBC radio but thought they said 100 000 showed up to protest ??

 

[Tim Sheens]

I also note the huge turnout in London over Brexit, with about one percent of the nation's population attending. As more and more people over there realise just what their initial apathy or lack of information allowed for a reasoned decision, I see a second vote as the only viable decision and a decent majority needed to sort it out for good.

I'm not sure if I heard this correctly last night on BBC radio but thought they said 100 000 showed up to protest ??

600k was the figure that I saw and picture seemed to reasonably back that up.

 

[colmcd]

If Phelps loses it's her own fault for preferencing the Libs. Her own preferences were never going to be a factor but she may have angered enough ALP and Green voters to sink her. I still think she wins though.

The way that Antony Green has put it.
They have gone to postals. The Liberals would need a 64% postal vote flow to them of all postal votes and even then they are 58 votes short.

What will happen is scrutineers will be all over that count and the Karen Phelps volunteers will let their guard down a little but the Labor/Greens faithful will keep the count going.
Libs deserve a lot worse then a 1 seat minority government.
I suspect scomo will go to the polls. If he does not, he won't be able to get anything through and face no confidence motions in dutton, etc al.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Turnbull was well liked in Wentworth. The backlash against the Libs was always going to happen.

Not sure is Scomo will go to the polls. I am not sure the LNP will survive it, especially after a narrow scrape last election. The ALP will likely get a token term, hopefully they present sensible policy to guarantee it and not just sit back expecting that the issues within the Liberal Party will get them home. I think Scomo will try to hang on as long as possible because as I recall, the coalition did not receive a boost from the change in leadership.

 

[hammertime]

I think it's going to happen right across the board, not just Wentworth. A lot of people are fed up and I'm glad there is a clear message that will come out.

As much as i dislike shorten, hopefully Australians can send a result next election as to what they think about chopping and changing PM's.

The most amazing thing is the liberals blaming it on turnbull. Looks like they're going to need more slap downs for it to sink in.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

The problem is, I don't think ALP will be above knifing a sitting PM again. The moment Shorten becomes a liability as a PM, they will scramble to save their own necks and there will always be some opportunist. Would have thought the Liberal Party would have learned from the Rudd/Gillard years but they didn't, what is to say the ALP won't?

 

[hammertime]

The only way is to keep booting them out till the dimwits get it through their noggin cb.

There's only one thing they care about - getting re-elected. Once theyre smart enough to correlate it, then we might see progress.