Politics Super Thread - keep it all in here

[GNR4LIFE]

Col’s a lost cause I’m afraid

 

[jadtiger]

Col’s a lost cause I’m afraid

He actually reminds me of the man in the Mel Brooks movie "The Producers",the man who was writing a musical.Absolutely brilliant movie

 

[Tim Sheens]

The stable genius is at it again tweeting
LIBERATE MINNESOTA
LIBERATE MICHIGAN
LIBERATE VIRGINIA
I wasnt aware any foreign country had invaded them.Needless to say some nutjobs armed to the teeth are congregating in some states aparently thousands in Michigan.Many are white supremecists and Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon supporters.All 3 of the states have democrat governors and are amongst the states that are NOT lifting the covid-19 restrictions.Needless to say the stable genius has made zero criticism of 2 republican states in Ohio and Utah who also refused to lift restrictions.
Certainly USA should consider itself on a war footing but the enemy is covid-19 and not the states who disagree with Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon.Using inflammatory language brings out the worst in people

Also pulled out the old chestnut about the second amendment being under attack. Cos you know, Obama had 8 years to take away people’s guns but didn’t.

He also tweeted how badly Obama/Biden failed cos 17k died under their watch during Ebola. No sense of irony.

Such grubby tactics yet again GNR...Totally unbalanced view once again.

Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon criticised Obama for not stopping people from infected countries coming into the USA.

Ebola was well known to be an incredibly dangerous and infectious disease.

COVID was and is, largely an unknown quantity, but despite that, the US borders are closed.

The world is the victim of a CCP coverup and YOU want to continue on this crusade against Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon? The one leader that stood up to China? The one leader looking to stop the raping and pillaging of our economies, our currencies, our resources, our food supply and our jobs? Oh that's right, the tax-payer covers your pay cheque...you'll get paid either way. Your utter disdain for the average citizen is just mind-boggling.

You should be utterly embarrassed and ashamed of yourself.


Good post.

There is no point talking to these clowns. They are haters, who have never got over 2016. Reason, facts, evidence mean nothing to them. If Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon found a cure for cancer they would say it wasn’t quick enough.

They parrot the looney left websites and the fake news channels. They sit in their underwear and spread their bile and hate about a man they don’t know, don’t like and has done more for America than any other president.

Your mate will forever be remembered for costing thousands, likely tens of thousands of American lives and will get his butt kicked in November, just as he has at every major election, national or otherwise since he initially lost the popular vote. Fancy not even having 50% approval rating during a national emergency, when 70% plus is the norm.

Better get ready to start posting in the drinking thread, as you'll be drowning your sorrows as the weather warms up.

 

[tiger_one]

Col’s a lost cause I’m afraid

He actually reminds me of the man in the Mel Brooks movie "The Producers",the man who was writing a musical.Absolutely brilliant movie

Springtime for Hitler and Germany. Love it.

 

[jadtiger]

Col’s a lost cause I’m afraid

He actually reminds me of the man in the Mel Brooks movie "The Producers",the man who was writing a musical.Absolutely brilliant movie


Springtime for Hitler and Germany. Love it.

Yes that is him, he adores his "obsession" and wont accept the slightest criticism of him.It is one of my favourite movies and Mel Brooks is one of the most influential comedians of all time.As Mel is reported to have said he is the only jew to ever make money from hitler(apologies to anyone offended by that comment).For a man who survived being in a ronson(sherman tank) during WW2 he was a truly comic genius.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

I’m glad that the 43 thousand people lying dead in the US, a lot in mass graves, and their families, have the President to look to for comfort. Particularly when he brags about how good his ratings are. But it’s actually a non-brag, cos he says he doesn’t care about his ratings, but goes on in the same sentence to say how he out rates MNF and the Bacholer finale. But, I’m sure I’m just a hater and have TDS. Right Col?

 

[happy_tiger]

The stable genius is at it again tweeting
LIBERATE MINNESOTA
LIBERATE MICHIGAN
LIBERATE VIRGINIA
I wasnt aware any foreign country had invaded them.Needless to say some nutjobs armed to the teeth are congregating in some states aparently thousands in Michigan.Many are white supremecists and Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon supporters.All 3 of the states have democrat governors and are amongst the states that are NOT lifting the covid-19 restrictions.Needless to say the stable genius has made zero criticism of 2 republican states in Ohio and Utah who also refused to lift restrictions.
Certainly USA should consider itself on a war footing but the enemy is covid-19 and not the states who disagree with Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon.Using inflammatory language brings out the worst in people

Also pulled out the old chestnut about the second amendment being under attack. Cos you know, Obama had 8 years to take away people’s guns but didn’t.

He also tweeted how badly Obama/Biden failed cos 17k died under their watch during Ebola. No sense of irony.

Such grubby tactics yet again GNR...Totally unbalanced view once again.

Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon criticised Obama for not stopping people from infected countries coming into the USA.

Ebola was well known to be an incredibly dangerous and infectious disease.

COVID was and is, largely an unknown quantity, but despite that, the US borders are closed.

The world is the victim of a CCP coverup and YOU want to continue on this crusade against Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon? The one leader that stood up to China? The one leader looking to stop the raping and pillaging of our economies, our currencies, our resources, our food supply and our jobs? Oh that's right, the tax-payer covers your pay cheque...you'll get paid either way. Your utter disdain for the average citizen is just mind-boggling.

You should be utterly embarrassed and ashamed of yourself.


Good post.

There is no point talking to these clowns. They are haters, who have never got over 2016. Reason, facts, evidence mean nothing to them. If Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon found a cure for cancer they would say it wasn’t quick enough.

They parrot the looney left websites and the fake news channels. They sit in their underwear and spread their bile and hate about a man they don’t know, don’t like and has done more for America than any other president.

Graet news Col ...Donald finally closed the borders .....it took him how many years in the end

 

[happy_tiger]

And a shot at our on Federal Govt .....we are getting really good at letting airlines die .....Ansett got buried by the Govt and now Virgin

But when QANTAS needs help ......

 

[Tiger5150]

And a shot at our on Federal Govt .....we are getting really good at letting airlines die .....Ansett got buried by the Govt and now Virgin

But when QANTAS needs help ......

Thats the problem I have with it. I loved using Virgin, I think they ran a great airline, but I am pretty much opposed to the Fed Govt bailing out private corporations despite understanding that air travel is essential to a large isolated country like ours.

Bailing out QANTAS despite their billions in profit that they were boasting about but letting Virgin die doesnt feel right to me.

 

[happy_tiger]

And a shot at our on Federal Govt .....we are getting really good at letting airlines die .....Ansett got buried by the Govt and now Virgin

But when QANTAS needs help ......


Thats the problem I have with it. I loved using Virgin, I think they ran a great airline, but I am pretty much opposed to the Fed Govt bailing out private corporations despite understanding that air travel is essential to a large isolated country like ours.

Bailing out QANTAS despite their billions in profit that they were boasting about but letting Virgin die doesnt feel right to me.

Well Ansett was a worse case ...The federal govt had a massive issue with Ansett because of the pilots strikes as the issue started there ..they were looking for the chance to bury them

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

And a shot at our on Federal Govt .....we are getting really good at letting airlines die .....Ansett got buried by the Govt and now Virgin

But when QANTAS needs help ......


Thats the problem I have with it. I loved using Virgin, I think they ran a great airline, but I am pretty much opposed to the Fed Govt bailing out private corporations despite understanding that air travel is essential to a large isolated country like ours.

Bailing out QANTAS despite their billions in profit that they were boasting about but letting Virgin die doesnt feel right to me.

QANTAS is majority owned by Australian shareholders, mandated under current law. Of course the Australian government would preference them over foreign interests.

Buy Virgin Australia out and nationalise it (or wait until it goes to administration and buy the fleet for a song,) then sell it once it becomes viable again.

Otherwise, let it die. No bailout.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

And a shot at our on Federal Govt .....we are getting really good at letting airlines die .....Ansett got buried by the Govt and now Virgin

But when QANTAS needs help ......


Thats the problem I have with it. I loved using Virgin, I think they ran a great airline, but I am pretty much opposed to the Fed Govt bailing out private corporations despite understanding that air travel is essential to a large isolated country like ours.

Bailing out QANTAS despite their billions in profit that they were boasting about but letting Virgin die doesnt feel right to me.

Well Ansett was a worse case ...The federal govt had a massive issue with Ansett because of the pilots strikes as the issue started there ..they were looking for the chance to bury them

Wasn't Ansett owned by Air NZ at time of their collapse?

 

[jadtiger]

And a shot at our on Federal Govt .....we are getting really good at letting airlines die .....Ansett got buried by the Govt and now Virgin

But when QANTAS needs help ......


Thats the problem I have with it. I loved using Virgin, I think they ran a great airline, but I am pretty much opposed to the Fed Govt bailing out private corporations despite understanding that air travel is essential to a large isolated country like ours.

Bailing out QANTAS despite their billions in profit that they were boasting about but letting Virgin die doesnt feel right to me.

QANTAS is majority owned by Australian shareholders, mandated under current law. Of course the Australian government would preference them over foreign interests.

Buy Virgin Australia out and nationalise it (or wait until it goes to administration and buy the fleet for a song,) then sell it once it becomes viable again.

Otherwise, let it die. No bailout.

There is zero chance that this government will buy out virgin and nationalise them even though it would be in the best interest of our country in both the long and short term

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

And a shot at our on Federal Govt .....we are getting really good at letting airlines die .....Ansett got buried by the Govt and now Virgin

But when QANTAS needs help ......


Thats the problem I have with it. I loved using Virgin, I think they ran a great airline, but I am pretty much opposed to the Fed Govt bailing out private corporations despite understanding that air travel is essential to a large isolated country like ours.

Bailing out QANTAS despite their billions in profit that they were boasting about but letting Virgin die doesnt feel right to me.

QANTAS is majority owned by Australian shareholders, mandated under current law. Of course the Australian government would preference them over foreign interests.

Buy Virgin Australia out and nationalise it (or wait until it goes to administration and buy the fleet for a song,) then sell it once it becomes viable again.

Otherwise, let it die. No bailout.

There is zero chance that this government will buy out virgin and nationalise them even though it would be in the best interest of our country in both the long and short term

Oh I am well aware of that, but that's the best outcome IMO. Keeps jobs, government obtains assets at a discount rate and can sell off at a premium if and when the business becomes an attractive proposition.

 

[Tiger5150]

And a shot at our on Federal Govt .....we are getting really good at letting airlines die .....Ansett got buried by the Govt and now Virgin

But when QANTAS needs help ......


Thats the problem I have with it. I loved using Virgin, I think they ran a great airline, but I am pretty much opposed to the Fed Govt bailing out private corporations despite understanding that air travel is essential to a large isolated country like ours.

Bailing out QANTAS despite their billions in profit that they were boasting about but letting Virgin die doesnt feel right to me.

QANTAS is majority owned by Australian shareholders, mandated under current law. Of course the Australian government would preference them over foreign interests.

Buy Virgin Australia out and nationalise it (or wait until it goes to administration and buy the fleet for a song,) then sell it once it becomes viable again.

Otherwise, let it die. No bailout.

There are many Aussie companies , majority or 100% Aussie owned that Gov let’s go under, particularly the year after boasting of profits in the billions. I’m ideologically against govt bailing out companies but a monopoly on air travel in Australia is going end badly

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

And a shot at our on Federal Govt .....we are getting really good at letting airlines die .....Ansett got buried by the Govt and now Virgin

But when QANTAS needs help ......


Thats the problem I have with it. I loved using Virgin, I think they ran a great airline, but I am pretty much opposed to the Fed Govt bailing out private corporations despite understanding that air travel is essential to a large isolated country like ours.

Bailing out QANTAS despite their billions in profit that they were boasting about but letting Virgin die doesnt feel right to me.

QANTAS is majority owned by Australian shareholders, mandated under current law. Of course the Australian government would preference them over foreign interests.

Buy Virgin Australia out and nationalise it (or wait until it goes to administration and buy the fleet for a song,) then sell it once it becomes viable again.

Otherwise, let it die. No bailout.

There are many Aussie companies , majority or 100% Aussie owned that Gov let’s go under, particularly the year after boasting of profits in the billions. I’m ideologically against govt bailing out companies but a monopoly on air travel in Australia is going end badly

I agree on most of your post. Although QANTAS is a major freight and regional service provider as well which is integral to the country's infrastructure, and Virgin was there to fill the void after Ansett went arse up, so I would wager that the market is ripe for a second competitor to emerge almost right away.

I still believe that if a monopoly is an issue, purchase them and nationalise it. When they are solvent, sell them.

 

[Snake]

I live in a conservative envronment (retirement village) in a very safe liberal seat.Just about everyone here including right wing liberal voters believe Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon is a disaster.Only one person i know thinks he is doing a good job and she also believes climate change is a scam and a commie plot.
American politics are so more divisive than what we are used to and hopefully we never descend to their level.I wouldnt have voted for either of their candidates at their last election as i didnt trust either even if i was eligable

I think a lot of Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon supporters have been duped in believing the country voted him in cos they were over the establishment, when I think the bigger reason was the abhorrent candidate the Dems ran with. One of the most unlikeable Presidential candidates in history. It was the quintessential turd sandwich and giant douche election.


This election choice coming up will be 15 shades of special as well.

Biden is that more likable than Hillary, they aren’t in the same universe. He actually shows genuine humility.

And a shot at our on Federal Govt .....we are getting really good at letting airlines die .....Ansett got buried by the Govt and now Virgin

But when QANTAS needs help ......


Thats the problem I have with it. I loved using Virgin, I think they ran a great airline, but I am pretty much opposed to the Fed Govt bailing out private corporations despite understanding that air travel is essential to a large isolated country like ours.

Bailing out QANTAS despite their billions in profit that they were boasting about but letting Virgin die doesnt feel right to me.

QANTAS is majority owned by Australian shareholders, mandated under current law. Of course the Australian government would preference them over foreign interests.

Buy Virgin Australia out and nationalise it (or wait until it goes to administration and buy the fleet for a song,) then sell it once it becomes viable again.

Otherwise, let it die. No bailout.

There is zero chance that this government will buy out virgin and nationalise them even though it would be in the best interest of our country in both the long and short term

Oh I am well aware of that, but that's the best outcome IMO. Keeps jobs, government obtains assets at a discount rate and can sell off at a premium if and when the business becomes an attractive proposition.

There are no assets it is all leased ! So our government should give these billionaire owners and a communist owned company our tax payer dollars ! Well Detroit are still laughing at the fools we call government for the 100s of millions given to them so they could just pack up and leave ..
This country just has not got the population to run 2 full services airlines just as with the car industry! A smaller compact airline that operates in country only not overseas could do well..nothing worse than seeing unemployed staff but the Government are doing the right thing with this issue ... Virgin were going under before the ? anyway
What needs to be done is get rid of the fancy lounges ect and just go back to basics flying the population around at a reasonable price. .. the would be’s can fly Qantas and think there special in there posh lounges! I just want to get to point B safely and at a reasonable price with no frills ..

 

[Geo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkU1ob_lHCw

Clever

 

[kiwitiger]

And a shot at our on Federal Govt .....we are getting really good at letting airlines die .....Ansett got buried by the Govt and now Virgin

But when QANTAS needs help ......


Thats the problem I have with it. I loved using Virgin, I think they ran a great airline, but I am pretty much opposed to the Fed Govt bailing out private corporations despite understanding that air travel is essential to a large isolated country like ours.

Bailing out QANTAS despite their billions in profit that they were boasting about but letting Virgin die doesnt feel right to me.

Well Ansett was a worse case ...The federal govt had a massive issue with Ansett because of the pilots strikes as the issue started there ..they were looking for the chance to bury them

Wasn't Ansett owned by Air NZ at time of their collapse?

Yep

 

[Tim Sheens]

Plenty still dying at home after a test because they have no health insurance, or without a test despite two or more attempts to get one and even then it may not be anywhere near accurate. This, despite the man in the Bubba Gump cap telling us all nearly seven weeks ago that anyone who wanted a test could get a test and that they were perfect, not quite as perfect as the extortive phone call that should have seen him removed, but perfect nonetheless.

Only 50 to 60k deaths and going to win in a landslide come November, huh, tell him he's dreamin and more likely to be wearing handcuffs in January.