Politics Super Thread - keep it all in here

[mike]

Parler has been removed from the Google Play App Store for helping Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon organise acts of violence.

Apple has given Parler 24hrs to institute a moderation policy to prevent organisation of violence or it will also be removed from the Apple App Store.

To defend democracy, we must ensure those other guys with different views are forever silenced.

It’s OK to have different views. It’s not OK to organise violence against those that have a different view from yours.

Parler already bans illegal content and exhortations to violence. It's way beyond banning organising violence now. Unpopular views are being wiped, with violence being a pretext.

Does it really? When was the last time a post was taken down?

I've never used it so not entirely sure how moderation works. But it was being discussed on ABC radio a few weeks ago, and some media specialist was explaining why it's not as 'open slather' as is made out and illegal content is removed.

There's another one called Gab which I think is a bit more of a free for all.

My understanding is that if you made a post on Parler for instance saying 'let's attack the Capitol' that would be removed, but if you made a post saying 'Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon was robbed' that would not.

It pitches itself as Twitter without rules. So no.

Yes that's the pitch. Twitter without rules, within the law. An exhortation to commit violence is against the law and would be removed. But e.g. posting a belief in a conspiracy theory would be allowed to stay, whereas on Twitter it might not.

You don’t even know that and by your own admission you have never even been on it. Just amazing.

"Moreover, a closer look at its user agreement suggests it moderates content the same way as any platform, maybe even more.

The company states:

Parler may remove any content and terminate your access to the Services at any time and for any reason or no reason.

Parler’s community guidelines prohibit a range of content including spam, terrorism, unsolicited ads, defamation, blackmail, bribery and criminal behaviour"

https://theconversation.com/parler-what-you-need-to-know-about-the-free-speech-twitter-alternative-142268

But do they actually do it? Do they actually enforce the rules? Like I asked before when was the last time a post was taken down?

 

[TillLindemann]

Parler has been removed from the Google Play App Store for helping Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon organise acts of violence.

Apple has given Parler 24hrs to institute a moderation policy to prevent organisation of violence or it will also be removed from the Apple App Store.

To defend democracy, we must ensure those other guys with different views are forever silenced.

It’s OK to have different views. It’s not OK to organise violence against those that have a different view from yours.

Parler already bans illegal content and exhortations to violence. It's way beyond banning organising violence now. Unpopular views are being wiped, with violence being a pretext.

Does it really? When was the last time a post was taken down?

I've never used it so not entirely sure how moderation works. But it was being discussed on ABC radio a few weeks ago, and some media specialist was explaining why it's not as 'open slather' as is made out and illegal content is removed.

There's another one called Gab which I think is a bit more of a free for all.

My understanding is that if you made a post on Parler for instance saying 'let's attack the Capitol' that would be removed, but if you made a post saying 'Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon was robbed' that would not.

It pitches itself as Twitter without rules. So no.

Yes that's the pitch. Twitter without rules, within the law. An exhortation to commit violence is against the law and would be removed. But e.g. posting a belief in a conspiracy theory would be allowed to stay, whereas on Twitter it might not.

You don’t even know that and by your own admission you have never even been on it. Just amazing.

"Moreover, a closer look at its user agreement suggests it moderates content the same way as any platform, maybe even more.

The company states:

Parler may remove any content and terminate your access to the Services at any time and for any reason or no reason.

Parler’s community guidelines prohibit a range of content including spam, terrorism, unsolicited ads, defamation, blackmail, bribery and criminal behaviour"

https://theconversation.com/parler-what-you-need-to-know-about-the-free-speech-twitter-alternative-142268

But do they actually do it? Do they actually enforce the rules? Like I asked before when was the last time a post was taken down?

Presumably if they were hosting illegal content, as opposed to politically unpalatable content, it would be police telling them to remove it, not Google.

 

[mike]

Parler has been removed from the Google Play App Store for helping Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon organise acts of violence.

Apple has given Parler 24hrs to institute a moderation policy to prevent organisation of violence or it will also be removed from the Apple App Store.

To defend democracy, we must ensure those other guys with different views are forever silenced.

It’s OK to have different views. It’s not OK to organise violence against those that have a different view from yours.

Parler already bans illegal content and exhortations to violence. It's way beyond banning organising violence now. Unpopular views are being wiped, with violence being a pretext.

Does it really? When was the last time a post was taken down?

I've never used it so not entirely sure how moderation works. But it was being discussed on ABC radio a few weeks ago, and some media specialist was explaining why it's not as 'open slather' as is made out and illegal content is removed.

There's another one called Gab which I think is a bit more of a free for all.

My understanding is that if you made a post on Parler for instance saying 'let's attack the Capitol' that would be removed, but if you made a post saying 'Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon was robbed' that would not.

It pitches itself as Twitter without rules. So no.

Yes that's the pitch. Twitter without rules, within the law. An exhortation to commit violence is against the law and would be removed. But e.g. posting a belief in a conspiracy theory would be allowed to stay, whereas on Twitter it might not.

You don’t even know that and by your own admission you have never even been on it. Just amazing.

"Moreover, a closer look at its user agreement suggests it moderates content the same way as any platform, maybe even more.

The company states:

Parler may remove any content and terminate your access to the Services at any time and for any reason or no reason.

Parler’s community guidelines prohibit a range of content including spam, terrorism, unsolicited ads, defamation, blackmail, bribery and criminal behaviour"

https://theconversation.com/parler-what-you-need-to-know-about-the-free-speech-twitter-alternative-142268

But do they actually do it? Do they actually enforce the rules? Like I asked before when was the last time a post was taken down?

Presumably if they were hosting illegal content, as opposed to politically unpalatable content, it would be police telling them to remove it, not Google.

Are they abiding by the terms and conditions of Google Play App Store? If not then Google has every right to remove the application from their Store as does Apple.

Just for the record it’s not a free speech issue either, these are private companies not US government agencies. No US 1st Amendment Rights have been broken.

 

[Geo]

Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon to start his own social media platform..Dumbster

 

[mike]

Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon to start his own social media platform..Dumbster

Epicfailster but @geo ‘s is better.

 

[mike]

One side has never been able to accept the other side winning 4 years ago. Now that side won't accept the current victors. It's a diabolical place being swallowed up by it's own internal fighting. Nothing "United" about the U.S. and to be fair it's hard to ever see it being united.

Anyway that will be my limited contribution to this topic.

And, you know what?? That sums up this forum. Individuals using different topics to "swallow up" those opinions that we find disgusting and the people who hold them.

And, I have come to realise, that includes ME.


I will still have derision and pity for the RWFW that post their putrid world view on here, but why am I being so stupid as to respond to their rubbish? There are more productive and important things I can do. And, I will do it.

So, in the 2021 world of challenged and restricted freedoms that we have to endure due to Covid, let's reinforce the one thing we have in common; our love for the mighty Wests Tigers.

But, I will leave the comments and posts on here to others.

Thanks to the moderators who keep it functioning. Sorry if I gave you a headache from time to time.

Mate I’ve finished the 7 day trial of 2021 and I won’t be proceeding with my subscription.

 

[mike]

One side has never been able to accept the other side winning 4 years ago. Now that side won't accept the current victors. It's a diabolical place being swallowed up by it's own internal fighting. Nothing "United" about the U.S. and to be fair it's hard to ever see it being united.

Anyway that will be my limited contribution to this topic.

And, you know what?? That sums up this forum. Individuals using different topics to "swallow up" those opinions that we find disgusting and the people who hold them.

And, I have come to realise, that includes ME.


I will still have derision and pity for the RWFW that post their putrid world view on here, but why am I being so stupid as to respond to their rubbish? There are more productive and important things I can do. And, I will do it.

So, in the 2021 world of challenged and restricted freedoms that we have to endure due to Covid, let's reinforce the one thing we have in common; our love for the mighty Wests Tigers.

But, I will leave the comments and posts on here to others.

Thanks to the moderators who keep it functioning. Sorry if I gave you a headache from time to time.

Mate I’ve finished the 7 day trial of 2021 and I won’t be proceeding with my subscription.

ahahaha, fair enough. I've just come to realise there are more productive ways to bring about change than this microcosm of WT forum. Good luck!!

Good luck to yourself as well. Stay safe, healthy and happy!!!

 

[earl]

Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon to start his own social media platform..Dumbster

There are some advantages to this. It's like a moron detector.

 

[mike]

Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon to start his own social media platform..Dumbster

There are some advantages to this. It's like a moron detector.

Hahahahaha, in IT terms a good old fashioned sinkhole. Trapped and unable to effect the real world.

 

[Tiger5150]

Parler has been removed from the Google Play App Store for helping Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon organise acts of violence.

Apple has given Parler 24hrs to institute a moderation policy to prevent organisation of violence or it will also be removed from the Apple App Store.

To defend democracy, we must ensure those other guys with different views are forever silenced.

It’s OK to have different views. It’s not OK to organise violence against those that have a different view from yours.

Parler already bans illegal content and exhortations to violence. It's way beyond banning organising violence now. Unpopular views are being wiped, with violence being a pretext.

Does it really? When was the last time a post was taken down?

I've never used it so not entirely sure how moderation works. But it was being discussed on ABC radio a few weeks ago, and some media specialist was explaining why it's not as 'open slather' as is made out and illegal content is removed.

There's another one called Gab which I think is a bit more of a free for all.

My understanding is that if you made a post on Parler for instance saying 'let's attack the Capitol' that would be removed, but if you made a post saying 'Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon was robbed' that would not.

It pitches itself as Twitter without rules. So no.

Yes that's the pitch. Twitter without rules, within the law. An exhortation to commit violence is against the law and would be removed. But e.g. posting a belief in a conspiracy theory would be allowed to stay, whereas on Twitter it might not.

You don’t even know that and by your own admission you have never even been on it. Just amazing.

"Moreover, a closer look at its user agreement suggests it moderates content the same way as any platform, maybe even more.

The company states:

Parler may remove any content and terminate your access to the Services at any time and for any reason or no reason.

Parler’s community guidelines prohibit a range of content including spam, terrorism, unsolicited ads, defamation, blackmail, bribery and criminal behaviour"

https://theconversation.com/parler-what-you-need-to-know-about-the-free-speech-twitter-alternative-142268

But do they actually do it? Do they actually enforce the rules? Like I asked before when was the last time a post was taken down?

Presumably if they were hosting illegal content, as opposed to politically unpalatable content, it would be police telling them to remove it, not Google.

Are they abiding by the terms and conditions of Google Play App Store? If not then Google has every right to remove the application from their Store as does Apple.

Just for the record it’s not a free speech issue either, these are private companies not US government agencies. No US 1st Amendment Rights have been broken.

So they are publishers?

 

[Tiger5150]

Im glad that in the face of the death of democracy, the big issues are being addressed int eh Congress.

https://youtu.be/tDBJPvI92as

 

[Deleted member 3518]

One side has never been able to accept the other side winning 4 years ago. Now that side won't accept the current victors. It's a diabolical place being swallowed up by it's own internal fighting. Nothing "United" about the U.S. and to be fair it's hard to ever see it being united.

Anyway that will be my limited contribution to this topic.

And, you know what?? That sums up this forum. Individuals using different topics to "swallow up" those opinions that we find disgusting and the people who hold them.

And, I have come to realise, that includes ME.


I will still have derision and pity for the RWFW that post their putrid world view on here, but why am I being so stupid as to respond to their rubbish? There are more productive and important things I can do. And, I will do it.

So, in the 2021 world of challenged and restricted freedoms that we have to endure due to Covid, let's reinforce the one thing we have in common; our love for the mighty Wests Tigers.

But, I will leave the comments and posts on here to others.

Thanks to the moderators who keep it functioning. Sorry if I gave you a headache from time to time.

Unfortunately that just isn’t how the world works anymore . The lack of desire to find common ground leads to shouting each other down sure. But if one side just blocks out the other , it doesn’t lead to a lack of contribution to the conversation, or stoking fire . What happens is the one side who is speaking , now in an echo chamber , just becomes more emboldened , and screams and shouts louder , because they perceive the silence to mean that they are right . So in actuality , by not contributing to the conversation your actually aiding the thing you hate .
We can all thank social media for that ironic twist of fate .

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Im glad that in the face of the death of democracy, the big issues are being addressed int eh Congress.

https://youtu.be/tDBJPvI92as

That country is deeply religious . Kind of explains how they could believe Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon was anything other than a psychopath , because he cracked a few jokes on the apprentice .

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Im glad that in the face of the death of democracy, the big issues are being addressed int eh Congress.

https://youtu.be/tDBJPvI92as

That country is deeply religious . Kind of explains how they could believe Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon was anything other than a psychopath , because he cracked a few jokes on the apprentice .

The funniest thing is his supporters see him as a messiah, and really believe he’s deeply religious ?

He’s a political David Koresh

 

[earl]

Im glad that in the face of the death of democracy, the big issues are being addressed int eh Congress.

https://youtu.be/tDBJPvI92as

That country is deeply religious . Kind of explains how they could believe Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon was anything other than a psychopath , because he cracked a few jokes on the apprentice .

The funniest thing is his supporters see him as a messiah, and really believe he’s deeply religious ?

He’s a political David Koresh

He is a cult leader. It's bizarre. He outright lies and people believe him. The mental gymnastics from his supporters astounds me.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Im glad that in the face of the death of democracy, the big issues are being addressed int eh Congress.

https://youtu.be/tDBJPvI92as

That country is deeply religious . Kind of explains how they could believe Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon was anything other than a psychopath , because he cracked a few jokes on the apprentice .

The funniest thing is his supporters see him as a messiah, and really believe he’s deeply religious ?

He’s a political David Koresh

Incest and paedophilia as well . He really is like David Koresh.

 

[happy_tiger]

Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon to start his own social media platform..Dumbster

Epicfailster but @geo ‘s is better.

He could name it Twit

 

[Tim Sheens]

I might not agree with totally banning the guy, but he has tried to get back on using other accounts. At least 4 of them including his staff's and they were shutting them down also, so the caption on this well worn photo gave me a belly laugh as he is like an ice addict looking for a hit.

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