Politics Super Thread - keep it all in here

[Tim Sheens]

As I reflect on Morrison's press conference the other day with his complaining about "cowards" online, I expect that apart from rattling the electoral sabres it could be a precursor of further attempts to curtail criticism and help his media enablers fill their pockets at the expense of independent journalism instead of meaningful policy.

Then I remembered that he only has a majority in parliament because one of his own in Andrew Laming who created numerous accounts to attack others online, including his own constituents.



"False flags" have been around for many years but are becoming far more common since the advent of mass "communication".The credibility of the media in english speaking countries becomes less virtually every day largely due to murdochs agendas in his empire.In our country we need more independant media badly

Trying not be angry today (lately as well) so avoiding getting too involved, but have to leg it out at times.

Similarly disappointed though in how much influence Murdoch has across AUKUS. To see his minions create division herd and abroad in this covid environment is distressing, particularly stateside with his network encouraging it's viewers to refuse vaccination and harass people that wear masks etcetera.

What makes it worse is that mongrel in Rupert was one of the first to get vaccinated has implemented a vaccination requirement policy for his outlets and daily tests for those that are not, to peddle his rhetoric and attack others for the same requirements.

To see the total contrast in the coverage of our own various states and their leaders is disgusting and should be considered as foreign influence by a US company.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

As I reflect on Morrison's press conference the other day with his complaining about "cowards" online, I expect that apart from rattling the electoral sabres it could be a precursor of further attempts to curtail criticism and help his media enablers fill their pockets at the expense of independent journalism instead of meaningful policy.

Then I remembered that he only has a majority in parliament because one of his own in Andrew Laming who created numerous accounts to attack others online, including his own constituents.


In other news, water is wet. They all do that. It's just one or two that are dumb enough not to switch accounts.

Fantastic, great move.
Well done Angus.

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

IBAC kicks off in Victoria today
Happy Freedom day nsw

 

[trentrunciman]

IBAC kicks off in Victoria today
Happy Freedom day nsw

Don’t see many masks. No social distancing. Man what the hell

 

[Tim Sheens]

So a long while after his daughter and later son James departed News Corp because of the direction dad Rupert continued taking it, we heard of a coming about face from climate change denial a few months back and today it's front pages here clearly show the shift has well and truly begun.

No coincidence that the coalition dog which the Murdoch tail wags and has been altering it's stance as a result was also out this morning with the PM (this guy) 


talking on the issue and another flea in Matt Canavan upset about the change, particularly so at others taking his cosplay position on the covers below.

   

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Should be remembered that climate change is not just an environmental issue, it's national security.

We have 300 million people in an island archipelago not far off FNQ who will go somewhere when their homes are underwater.

 

[TillLindemann]

@formerguest well I guess 20 years late is better than nothing. Why the sudden change in their stance do you think? I mean yes they evidence is clearly against them, but it always has been. Maybe Boris Johnson has had a strong word with Rupert?

You'd think Twiggy Forrest going all in on renewables, and in Queensland Nationals territory to boot, might be the final nail in the coffin of this debate.

 

[jadtiger]

I doubt if Murdoch and his empire will ever be genuine about climate change the same as i doubt the LNP will be either.Both have actively removed a leader who was trying to do a little in tackling the issue.I see many smoke and mirrors happening in the near future,you could almost be cynical enough to think an election was coming.
Caveat Emptor

 

[trentrunciman]

https://www.aph.gov.au/News_and_Events/LiveMediaPlayer?vID={2FA23B40-99D3-48D2-8C9E-130B04514DF4}

Fyi all, good to see. Live now

DFAT
Home affairs
Defence

 

[trentrunciman]

Reconvenes at 1pm.

Interesting to see Penny Wong , J Lambie et al

 

[TillLindemann]

I doubt if Murdoch and his empire will ever be genuine about climate change the same as i doubt the LNP will be either.Both have actively removed a leader who was trying to do a little in tackling the issue.I see many smoke and mirrors happening in the near future,you could almost be cynical enough to think an election was coming.
Caveat Emptor

Murdoch has done more than anyone to sow doubt about climate science, it has been a relentless campaign for two decades. It is actually the single reason I stopped reading The Australian years ago. So yes if is his papers have suddenly changed their stance I would also be cynical as to the reason, or at least curious, though I would welcome it nonetheless.

 

[jadtiger]

I doubt if Murdoch and his empire will ever be genuine about climate change the same as i doubt the LNP will be either.Both have actively removed a leader who was trying to do a little in tackling the issue.I see many smoke and mirrors happening in the near future,you could almost be cynical enough to think an election was coming.
Caveat Emptor

Murdoch has done more than anyone to sow doubt about climate science, it has been a relentless campaign for two decades. It is actually the single reason I stopped reading The Australian years ago. So yes if is his papers have suddenly changed their stance I would also be cynical as to the reason, or at least curious, though I would welcome it nonetheless.

I would also welcome it if it was genuine but all of my experience of murdochs actions have made be believe he is as genuine as a 3 dollar note and as trustworthy as a tiger snake stuffed down your trousers.
Caveat Emptor

 

[happy_tiger]

Should be remembered that climate change is not just an environmental issue, it's national security.

We have 300 million people in an island archipelago not far off FNQ who will go somewhere when their homes are underwater.

They don't have the strongest navy mate .....

 

[Tim Sheens]

@formerguest well I guess 20 years late is better than nothing. Why the sudden change in their stance do you think? I mean yes they evidence is clearly against them, but it always has been. Maybe Boris Johnson has had a strong word with Rupert?

You'd think Twiggy Forrest going all in on renewables, and in Queensland Nationals territory to boot, might be the final nail in the coffin of this debate.

I don’t know why he changed direction 180°, but he has succeeded in stopping progress on climate here, even partnered up to dismantle a working system right up until this very day. I am though certain that Johnson has had little to no influence on that decision.

Seeing he has finally admitted he got that wrong, with any luck he will similarly about face on all the other issues that the mongrel of a man sows division on within our community via his network on a daily basis.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Should be remembered that climate change is not just an environmental issue, it's national security.

We have 300 million people in an island archipelago not far off FNQ who will go somewhere when their homes are underwater.

They don't have the strongest navy mate .....

It's a numbers game buddy. There'll be a lot of boats.

 

[TillLindemann]

@formerguest well I guess 20 years late is better than nothing. Why the sudden change in their stance do you think? I mean yes they evidence is clearly against them, but it always has been. Maybe Boris Johnson has had a strong word with Rupert?

You'd think Twiggy Forrest going all in on renewables, and in Queensland Nationals territory to boot, might be the final nail in the coffin of this debate.

I don’t know why he changed direction 180°, but he has succeeded in stopping progress on climate here, even partnered up to dismantle a working system right up until this very day. I am though certain that Johnson has had little to no influence on that decision.

Seeing he has finally admitted he got that wrong, with any luck he will similarly about face on all the other issues that the mongrel of a man sows division on within our community via his network on a daily basis.

Only reason I mentioned Boris is he has staked a lot politically on the success of the upcoming climate conference in the UK. Boris copped some domestic heat on the terms of the recent trade deal with Australia, he then copped heat from France for the recent AUKUS sub deal even though the UK didn't really get anything out of it. There's been suggestions Scomo wouldn't bother attending the conference, but I think Boris will be feeling like he is owed a favour, and of course Murdoch has a big presence in the UK.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Every other developed country on the planet, in spite of Murdoch have all adopted some sort of climate policy. With younger voters it's the one big attraction to the ALP, the LNP could probably take some votes from them and the Greens (especially the well to do Tree Tories,) if they offer up a policy that is slighty better than something written on the back of a napkin.

It always baffles me how Conservative parties don't embrace climate change policy. You're conservative, you embrace the status quo so you should be conserving the environment.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Stay classy Donald

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/10/19/donald-Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon-disparages-powell-day-after-his-death/8520943002/

 

[Tiger5150]

Stay classy Donald

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/10/19/donald-Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon-disparages-powell-day-after-his-death/8520943002/

That is pretty weak.

 

[jadtiger]

Stay classy Donald

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/10/19/donald-Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon-disparages-powell-day-after-his-death/8520943002/

That is very poor form from Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon but typical of the person he is.Powell made his dislike of Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon and what he stands for well known.Many "old school" republicans have spoken out against Trumps delusions including ones who have reached the pinnacle of power.
I did not particularly admire Powell or his politics but to have derision hurled at him by a fraud/compulsive liar is disgraceful