southerntiger
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I noticed that too Sirro. I am not too fussed about that at this stage. He has a football brain, good instincts and a ton of guts.
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mike
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@southerntiger said:
Sure he has potential and I think he's a keeper but tonight we looked totally disorganised and it was partly due to Miller playing substantial minutes at halfback. I'm sure as he gets more game time and he gets used to the team and team gets used to him things will improve. It took Lui a significant number of games to really take control, and I don’t think he is even 100% there yet. It will take Miller similar time, that’s just the reality and he is still very young.
southerntiger
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No we looked disorganised because our forwards got owned and whenever we haf the ball we were on the back foot. Had nothing to with Miller. Our organisers are Marshall and Farah - not Lui, moltz or miller.
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happy_tiger
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Biggest problem Miller is going to have is the same problem Lui had also . Being strong enough to override Benji and Robbie . If he is going to be regular half back he has to be a controlling half back or a feeder One or the other . I think he takes the line on too much at this stage . He needs to feed Benji and run occasionally .Even if he runs around Benji to make extra man in attack Can't see it happening as Moltzen will be half back next week because if Sheens puts Moltzen at fullback again Sheens needs lots of help .
@king sirro said:
I find this puzzling as well. From my playing experience, I have seen quite a few players cut from squads because they couldnt or refused to throw spiral balls, both ways, at speed.
I'm sure he can do it - he wouldnt be able to make it this far without that skill.
southerntiger
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Fair comment but Jacob doesnt look timid to me. He looks positively arrogant which I love.
No doubt he needs another 12 months of development before he is fully ready.
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Fair comment but Jacob doesnt look timid to me. He looks positively arrogant which I love.
No doubt he needs another 12 months of development before he is fully ready.
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mike
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@southerntiger said:
Yeah but Miller at times got in the way. He'll learn.
@southerntiger said:
I disagree, in the 3 games lui has played in this year he has been the chief organizer with benj. Robbie has been the one taking a back seat. Lui has grown into the half role and now has the confidence to override Robbie and Benji. The injury to lui is affecting us the most out of our current lot. Replacing a teams 7 is not easy as we are finding out at the moment.
southerntiger
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I half agree with this. Rob has been organising a lot more. But I can honestly say, and I supported Rob when few others did, that he wouldnt have made any difference tonight.
We lost two games with Rob this year and 1 game without. We had one of our best games in 12 months last week and that was without Rob. Dont get too carried away about his influence.
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I half agree with this. Rob has been organising a lot more. But I can honestly say, and I supported Rob when few others did, that he wouldnt have made any difference tonight.
We lost two games with Rob this year and 1 game without. We had one of our best games in 12 months last week and that was without Rob. Dont get too carried away about his influence.
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happy_tiger
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Benjis goal kicking
Your dead right lui wouldn't have won us that game tonight but he would have helped a hell of a lot. Last week we looked great but how much of that was due to Souths poor defence? Tonight we didn't look like making a line break. Yes the forwards were mainly to blame and no 7 looks good when the forwards are getting dominated but our structure and organization was poor and this is what I believe lui brings to our team.
clontarfkid
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@mike said:
Miller proved he is tough enough for 1st grade at 18,& not a defensive liability like many no 7s,but as cld be expected is well short of the mark at this level in playmaking & organising…key attributes of a 7
A couple of yrs in NYC with the right mentoring will hopefully fix that,& Id expect him to emerge as Trent Hodgkinson style half who was also somewhat manufactured by Haslar in this area,but look at him now
@stryker said:
Yeah its rare but I agree with southern too.
Miller may have been guilty of trying too hard if anything.
He's not shy, full of confidence, looks to have ability, he's lively, energetic, POSITIVE….I like the looks of him very much.
He kept at it too....all night, he has persistence that Freddy mentioned, seems to have a great work ethic.
TigerDave81
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Only positives were no further injuries and our for and against didn't get hurt to much!!! Oh and marshalls goal kicking…ok ok I'm clutching at straws.
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It was an away interstate game and theres very shitty weather in Sydney…thats a positive
Dwyer, he was throwing blokes around like they were rag dolls.
This kid is only just starting to realise how big & strong he is, but with the right attitude (playing with enthusiasm and aggression all game every game) he will play rep football.
Mitch Brown played very physical. Like Dwyer I don`t think Mitch Brown realises how good he can be just yet. He`s going well now, but he too has the ability to go to an even higher level and become an elite player, just needs to be enthusiastic and aggressive on a regular basis.
You can throw Blake Ayshford into this mix as well, all three of them are big, strong, fast & with good football brains, they have the rugby league world at their feet if they want it bad enough!
This kid is only just starting to realise how big & strong he is, but with the right attitude (playing with enthusiasm and aggression all game every game) he will play rep football.
Mitch Brown played very physical. Like Dwyer I don`t think Mitch Brown realises how good he can be just yet. He`s going well now, but he too has the ability to go to an even higher level and become an elite player, just needs to be enthusiastic and aggressive on a regular basis.
You can throw Blake Ayshford into this mix as well, all three of them are big, strong, fast & with good football brains, they have the rugby league world at their feet if they want it bad enough!
bonstonker
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you can sunshine pump this kid all you want,but that wasn't a good game.
if you want to encourage an 18 year old fine,but don't expect me to agree that was a good nrl halfbacks game.
if you want to encourage an 18 year old fine,but don't expect me to agree that was a good nrl halfbacks game.
@bonstonker said:
Maybe not a good game skill wise, he`s not in the same class as Robert Lui skill wise, but you`ve got to admire his toughness and enthusiasm?
On the back of a badly beaten forward pack with next to no go forward you must have surely given Jacob Miller a pass mark?
Jacob Miller reminds me of Mitchell Pearce a couple of years back. I reckon it`s a living certainty that Jacob Miller will become a very good first grade footballer, possibly even better than that, but i`m not sure where he`ll fit into the equation with us long term given we have Marshall & Lui?
Could Jacob Miller play well as a fullback?
He lacks nothing in courage & enthusiasm and has plenty of pace, that`s a good start.
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Hard to take any positives out of last night's game. Forwards were weak, ball control got worse as the match went on. Farah and Marshall were both quiet in attack. The team didn't look like scoring after 15 minutes and then they had their customary brain explosions late in the game with Benji and Payten - two of the teams senior players making fundamental mistakes.
Oh yes, and another couple of injuries for good measure.
Oh yes, and another couple of injuries for good measure.
