Potential Penalty Goal Mishap

[frullens]

In yestersays game, parra got a penalty right in front and elected to kick for goal.

Farther, running the blue shirt, called the boys into a huddle for a pep talk. Which they probably needed, BUT

If Moses was awake to the situation, he couldn't of grubbers his kick for goal. Which would of been a missed goal and ref would of called 'play on'. All he needed to do his pick up the ball after his 'missed kick for goal' and stroll over the tryline to score a try.

Lucky he didn't but if he did it would of been the.most embarrassing try of all time.

Team needs to be more aware and awake of the situation. Play for 80mins.

 

[Tiger5150]

I cant quote chapter and verse but its actually against the rules to intentionally miss the kick to go for the try. I cant rememeber the details but you cant for example just kick to the corner for the winger to catch it.

 

[TrueTiger]

I cant quote chapter and verse but its actually against the rules to intentionally miss the kick to go for the try. I cant rememeber the details but you cant for example just kick to the corner for the winger to catch it.

I think you are right mate...once the team indicate they are going for a goal,it has to be an ATTEMPT at goal,deliberate change after the original call nullifys the penalty...if the ball is kicked and hits the crossbar and bounces BACK IN PLAY its play on...if someone on here can find the section in the rules book it may clear it up...Im going back a while so things may have changed...

 

[cochise]

I cant quote chapter and verse but its actually against the rules to intentionally miss the kick to go for the try. I cant rememeber the details but you cant for example just kick to the corner for the winger to catch it.

Section 6 Law 11

Pretending to Kick at Goal.

It shall be misconduct for a player to pretend to kick at goal from a penalty kick and then deliberately kick it elsewhere. Such misconduct shall incur a penalty. Having informed the Referee of his intention to kick at goal from an awarded penalty kick the kicker shall not do otherwise

 

[Tiger5150]

I cant quote chapter and verse but its actually against the rules to intentionally miss the kick to go for the try. I cant rememeber the details but you cant for example just kick to the corner for the winger to catch it.

Section 6 Law 11

Pretending to Kick at Goal.

It shall be misconduct for a player to pretend to kick at goal from a penalty kick and then deliberately kick it elsewhere. Such misconduct shall incur a penalty. Having informed the Referee of his intention to kick at goal from an awarded penalty kick the kicker shall not do otherwise

There you go, thanks Cochise.

 

[BalmainJnr]

I cant quote chapter and verse but its actually against the rules to intentionally miss the kick to go for the try. I cant rememeber the details but you cant for example just kick to the corner for the winger to catch it.

Section 6 Law 11

Pretending to Kick at Goal.

It shall be misconduct for a player to pretend to kick at goal from a penalty kick and then deliberately kick it elsewhere. Such misconduct shall incur a penalty. Having informed the Referee of his intention to kick at goal from an awarded penalty kick the kicker shall not do otherwise

I have a feeling Atkins would have allowed it ?

 

[Chicken_Faced_Killa]

In yestersays game, parra got a penalty right in front and elected to kick for goal.

Farther, running the blue shirt, called the boys into a huddle for a pep talk. Which they probably needed, BUT

If Moses was awake to the situation, he couldn't of grubbers his kick for goal. Which would of been a missed goal and ref would of called 'play on'. All he needed to do his pick up the ball after his 'missed kick for goal' and stroll over the tryline to score a try.

Lucky he didn't but if he did it would of been the.most embarrassing try of all time.

Team needs to be more aware and awake of the situation. Play for 80mins.

Actually you can’t do that. You have to have a genuine shot at goal otherwise it is called back.

 

[Geo]

I cant quote chapter and verse but its actually against the rules to intentionally miss the kick to go for the try. I cant rememeber the details but you cant for example just kick to the corner for the winger to catch it.

Section 6 Law 11

Pretending to Kick at Goal.

It shall be misconduct for a player to pretend to kick at goal from a penalty kick and then deliberately kick it elsewhere. Such misconduct shall incur a penalty. Having informed the Referee of his intention to kick at goal from an awarded penalty kick the kicker shall not do otherwise

Wish he did and send the slimey flog off..

 

[cochise]

I cant quote chapter and verse but its actually against the rules to intentionally miss the kick to go for the try. I cant rememeber the details but you cant for example just kick to the corner for the winger to catch it.

Section 6 Law 11

Pretending to Kick at Goal.

It shall be misconduct for a player to pretend to kick at goal from a penalty kick and then deliberately kick it elsewhere. Such misconduct shall incur a penalty. Having informed the Referee of his intention to kick at goal from an awarded penalty kick the kicker shall not do otherwise

Wish he did and send the slimey flog off..

I would love nothing more than to see Moses given his marching orders in a game against us.

 

[frullens]

Thanks guys! World of wisdom this forum. I asked it was play on.

But if it hit the cross bar it would be play on and the team wouldn't of been ready.

What about kick for touch?
Can you deliberating kick it down field on the other side of the ground for a running winger?

 

[cochise]

Thanks guys! World of wisdom this forum. I asked it was play on.

But if it hit the cross bar it would be play on and the team wouldn't of been ready.

What about kick for touch?
Can you deliberating kick it down field on the other side of the ground for a running winger?

A penalty kick can be taken in any direction unless you indicate to kick at goal.

A rebound of the post would be play on from the penalty goal attempt.

 

[TrueTiger]

Thanks guys! World of wisdom this forum. I asked it was play on.

But if it hit the cross bar it would be play on and the team wouldn't of been ready.

What about kick for touch?
Can you deliberating kick it down field on the other side of the ground for a running winger?

Once again mate,if the decision is made to kick for the sideline it has to be taken as such ...its to make up ground to benefit the team getting the penalty...
Thats why if you kick for touch and fail,its frowned upon because you lose the advantage given by the penalty...

 

[cochise]

Thanks guys! World of wisdom this forum. I asked it was play on.

But if it hit the cross bar it would be play on and the team wouldn't of been ready.

What about kick for touch?
Can you deliberating kick it down field on the other side of the ground for a running winger?

Once again mate,if the decision is made to kick for the sideline it has to be taken as such ...its to make up ground to benefit the team getting the penalty...
Thats why if you kick for touch and fail,its frowned upon because you lose the advantage given by the penalty...

That part isn't correct
Section 13 Law 2

A player may take a penalty kick by punting, drop kicking, or
place kicking the ball from any point on or behind the mark
and equidistant from the touch line. Other than when kicking
for goal (see notes to Section 6, Law 11 - “Pretending to kick at
goal”) the ball may be kicked in any direction, after which it is
in play

You can kick in any direction and don't have to kick for touch.

 

[TrueTiger]

Thanks guys! World of wisdom this forum. I asked it was play on.

But if it hit the cross bar it would be play on and the team wouldn't of been ready.

What about kick for touch?
Can you deliberating kick it down field on the other side of the ground for a running winger?

Once again mate,if the decision is made to kick for the sideline it has to be taken as such ...its to make up ground to benefit the team getting the penalty...
Thats why if you kick for touch and fail,its frowned upon because you lose the advantage given by the penalty...

That part isn't correct
Section 13 Law 2

A player may take a penalty kick by punting, drop kicking, or
place kicking the ball from any point on or behind the mark
and equidistant from the touch line. Other than when kicking
for goal (see notes to Section 6, Law 11 - “Pretending to kick at
goal”) the ball may be kicked in any direction, after which it is
in play

You can kick in any direction and don't have to kick for touch.

Sorry mate I must have misinterpretted that when you indicate to the sideline you MUST kick it out...
Hence failing to find touch keeps the ball in play...

 

[cochise]

Thanks guys! World of wisdom this forum. I asked it was play on.

But if it hit the cross bar it would be play on and the team wouldn't of been ready.

What about kick for touch?
Can you deliberating kick it down field on the other side of the ground for a running winger?

Once again mate,if the decision is made to kick for the sideline it has to be taken as such ...its to make up ground to benefit the team getting the penalty...
Thats why if you kick for touch and fail,its frowned upon because you lose the advantage given by the penalty...

That part isn't correct
Section 13 Law 2

A player may take a penalty kick by punting, drop kicking, or
place kicking the ball from any point on or behind the mark
and equidistant from the touch line. Other than when kicking
for goal (see notes to Section 6, Law 11 - “Pretending to kick at
goal”) the ball may be kicked in any direction, after which it is
in play

You can kick in any direction and don't have to kick for touch.

Sorry mate I must have misinterpretted that when you indicate to the sideline you MUST kick it out...

There actually isn't a requirement in the rules to indicate that you are kicking for touch.

 

[swag_tiger]

Purposely hitting the goal posts would count as a shot at goal.

 

[frullens]

What about the old optional 20m restart, can you still kick it?

 

[cochise]

What about the old optional 20m restart, can you still kick it?

Yes

Section 8 Law 2

Re-starting play at 20m
– with an optional kick
(i.e. any type of kick)

The ball may be kicked in any manner and in any direction and is immediately in play. Opposing players shall retire ten metres from the 20m line and shall not advance until the ball has been kicked. Attacking players shall not advance in front of the ball before it is kicked. Any deliberate offence by either team shall incur a penalty to be awarded at the centre of the 20m line. The initial tackle affected on the team taking the 20 metre optional kick re-start shall be a zero tackle.

 

[frullens]

With Badger on the coaching panel, they could be doing a weekly session, where they brainstorm ways to come up with something different based on the rules.

Wait to sheensy comes in, im sure he'll have some ideas

 

[frullens]

What about the old optional 20m restart, can you still kick it?

Yes

Section 8 Law 2

Re-starting play at 20m
– with an optional kick
(i.e. any type of kick)

The ball may be kicked in any manner and in any direction and is immediately in play. Opposing players shall retire ten metres from the 20m line and shall not advance until the ball has been kicked. Attacking players shall not advance in front of the ball before it is kicked. Any deliberate offence by either team shall incur a penalty to be awarded at the centre of the 20m line. The initial tackle affected on the team taking the 20 metre optional kick re-start shall be a zero tackle.

So again you could run to the 20min line and kick down field to a knowing fast winger.

Very really at 20min restart do teams have a fullback in position or there edges sorted as they usually expect a winger to just tap and run at the middle.