Potter did himself no favours tonight

[jirskyr]

he hasn't done himself any favors since round 1 with a pathetic team performance against newcastle.

week 4 against manly spells farah for masada.

week 5 selects thompson to start after 10 months out of football gets a suspension in week 1 reggies and comes straight in to start.
who the hell gives a reggies player a walk up start like that.

week 6 lawrence and ayshford are still in the starting team that was not crippled by injury.

utai still starting until injured.

blair selected to start every game.

goes on and on.

and let's look at the development in the halves this year.
miller gone from the club in 2 months and the benji saga since potters half arsed benching.
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yes,he came into a bad club,but his hands are not clean.
he has had plenty of choices throughout the year and made his bed.

funny how many have zero faith in the board and their decisions,yet have faith in this hire that also involved humpty.

potter set the tone of accepting sub par performance from round 1.
it hasn't changed since then.

Yep, I agree with everything you've said here. I'm really confused with all the love for Potter on this forum.

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Ok so he gave Robbie a 10 minute rest, that is the crux of the issue? He hasn't done it again; I don't mind trying things out so long as mistakes aren't repeated.

But the rest of the stuff?

re starting Blair - it looks like moving him to starting prop is actually getting the best out of him. It was forced with the injury to Galloway and gradual wearing down of Buchanan.

re starting Thompson - did Tim Sheens not bring players straight back into firsts with no or minimal proving in reggies?

re playing Lawrence and Ayshford every week - sure they aren't in good form but who are you gonna replace them with? I didn't see the replacements during their injuries (Simona, Reddy) doing anything to stop this year's rut. We are short on quality performing centres, what is the coach supposed to do first year in?

re playing Utai - it's easily arguable that you don't start a season with your least experienced wingers. Tuqiri only just back so that option was gone; ended up going to Simona and Nofo and that has turned out very well.

re Miller - yes he is gone and who is complaining? Potter tried him out, Miller produced nothing and he got cut. Much better than dragging the kid along as Sheens did.

re Benji benching, you think Potter was wrong to do that? Is it Potter's fault that Benji responded to his benching by packing up his toys and delivering crap for the rest of the season? Isn't the entire footballing fraternity calling for Benji's benching right now?? And anyway there is the side story that Benji was perhaps benched because of transgression of team rules, not strictly performance.

Fair enough if Potter was holding back real talent in reserves, then he'd be up for blame. But he has inherited a crap roster, let's be honest. Sure we can cut Blair and Anasta and Ayshford and Benji and Lawrence and Utai co, and then try to field a team with whatever is left of our Top 25.

All the negatives this year stem from inherited issues - roster, coaching staff, structure, facilities, political in-fighting. I don't understand how the head coach is supposed to undo all of this in one season. Even the "mighty" Wayne Bennett hasn't turned miracles at Newcastle who themselves had bigger issues than just coaching.

Potter of course needs to produce results. But you can't give a guy two years and then sack him half-way. This forum wanted Sheens out, and he's gone. We wanted dead wood set adrift and that has also happened. Now that we are half-way through the painful restructure, let's actually spend a year trying it out before bringing in another guy with another new structure.

 

[bonstonker]

if you can find the bright side of that dumb decision in week 4,then more power to you.

so we moved blair from worst starting backrower in the comp to worst starting frontrower.yeah,that's great.

what has sheens got to do with bodene.where am i wanting sheens back.
i don't agree with sheens policy or potters in regards to bodene.
i stated at the beginning of this year that bodene was nowhere near fit enough to be starting or playing first grade.proven correct.

reddy and simona both proved to be better.
how long was it going to take for us to see simona in first grade.
out of utai,lawrence and ayshford he could have dropped any one of those for simona.

at least we were 2-2 with him at half.he replaced him with anasta,and what is our record with him at half.have we won a game all year with him at half.
coach is paid to put his team in the best position to win.these decisions are not .

with benji,he tried the shock treatment and hasn't known what to do with him since.what are all the questions for,ok let me talk about benji some more.i have wanted him dropped months ago.
and why the hell did potter still have benji kicking for touch.where the hell is potters attention to detail.another decision that makes it harder on the team.

i've stated before that someone could probably convince me to keep him or sack him.

for me,potter has had some red flags pop up throughout the season that concern me.
he has also done things that i do like.
as i said earlier he came to a bad club and i understand that allowances have to be made.and right now beggars can't be choosers.
but his hands are not clean.

 

[tig_prmz]

in regards to bodene, go back and check the 3,2,1 for his first game. most have him in their top 3.

re: utai- his defense was always sus but he was always agressive in attack and sometime in defense.. he was not the issue. when he got injured, potter put nofo there and it worked and utai didnt come back since.

re: simona- no one here was calling for simona's name. he has taken everyone by surprise. afaik he wasn't pwning state cup. reddy was solid. everyone was impressed with his performances, simona was never gonna take his spot.

re: blair- everyone was getting second chances under potter whether it be aysh, lawrence, moltz or blair. he didnt impress and was lazy for half a season but eventually he did come good. he's been our best forward post SOO.

i agree his hands are not clean and to go further, i dont think we'll win a premiership with him here- but you cant expect him to make ALL the tough decisions in one season. look at how it's turned out so far- most of the underperformers in marshall, eddy, aysh, blair, moltz have either improved or not here next year. we still have anasta, thompson and lawrence who need improvement or a kick up the arse. give it time- no one said he's gonna change the culture in 1 year

 

[bonstonker]

and i was the lone voice against.and demonstrated why and he has shown exactly what i said.
seriously,you are going to use this forum as the voice of reason.you have learned sfa about this place.

utai leaked points on the ground and in the air.
considering we keep score in this game,yeah that's a pretty big issue.

it's the same crap with blair but you get 2 extra runs per game and less reads in defense.
you have just watched the roosters steam roll us and you think blair is a prop.can't believe everyone misses something staring you in the face.
look again at the feet shuffle when going to the defensive line.prop my arse.
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it's either all positive or all doom and gloom.
i have praised potter on certain things in other threads.
this time i am bringing up negatives.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Potter has certainly made a blue or two with the squad this year, but I'd certainly be allowing him to have a second year to kick on.

If we don't see marked improvement next year, then he can jog on.

 

[tig_prmz]

i have praised potter on certain things in other threads.
this time i am bringing up negatives.

fair nuff. didnt see any positives from you before.

and i was trying to say that there is a reason for many of the mistakes he's made and more importantly- unlike sheens, he didnt make the mistakes again.

 

[bonstonker]

he seems to be taking a step forward and then another back.
he has control over who kicks for touch from a penalty.
how many times do we have to see 10 yard kicks or kicks out on the full.
if i can see it,why isn't the coach?
things like this change the course of the game.

mistakes not being repeated i can't agree.

then i look at the purge and he gets my vote of confidence.
but then i look at his purge and wonder if a players form is down,does he have the abilty to raise them to career best form in the future.
so far i have my doubts.

 

[NT_Tiger]

Anybody thought for a moment that Potter can see Marshall's performance for what it is? As a footy expert I see Marshall's performance and shake my head. I figure that Mick, even though he's a newbie, might be cottoning on to it too. There might just be a reason he's putting Marshall on the paddock. It's not as if leaving Marshall out will change the result of this season.

Lets face it, Marshall's final performances are speaking for themselves. Especially in comparison to his team mates. A lasting legacy? Prime motivational material for the 2014 Tigers.

 

[Newtown]

he hasn't done himself any favors since round 1 with a pathetic team performance against newcastle.

week 4 against manly spells farah for masada.

week 5 selects thompson to start after 10 months out of football gets a suspension in week 1 reggies and comes straight in to start.
who the hell gives a reggies player a walk up start like that.

week 6 lawrence and ayshford are still in the starting team that was not crippled by injury.

utai still starting until injured.

blair selected to start every game.

goes on and on.

and let's look at the development in the halves this year.
miller gone from the club in 2 months and the benji saga since potters half arsed benching.
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yes,he came into a bad club,but his hands are not clean.
he has had plenty of choices throughout the year and made his bed.

funny how many have zero faith in the board and their decisions,yet have faith in this hire that also involved humpty.

potter set the tone of accepting sub par performance from round 1.
it hasn't changed since then.

You make it sound as though he had world class replacements for all of these players.

Seriously, do you need a world class replacement for Benji in the form he has been playing all year. Potter still selected him because he was afraid to do anything else. After a year with Potter it definitely looks like he is the basket case not Wests Tigers.

 

[innsaneink]

Afraid?
Lets dig up all those threads when he benched Benji eh?
He cant win
He copped it then
Hes copping it now

If he had support with everyone on the same page…hmmm

 

[tig_prmz]

he seems to be taking a step forward and then another back.
he has control over who kicks for touch from a penalty.
how many times do we have to see 10 yard kicks or kicks out on the full.
if i can see it,why isn't the coach?
things like this change the course of the game.

mistakes not being repeated i can't agree.

then i look at the purge and he gets my vote of confidence.
but then i look at his purge and wonder if a players form is down,does he have the abilty to raise them to career best form in the future.
so far i have my doubts.

i disagree i think individuals will work good under him, but i dont think as a unit we will function the best. that's just a hunch though.
in case you didnt notice, after marshall missing the touch in the roosters game, braith did MOST of the kicking.

 

[Snake]

I only have to look at the injured list of players now out for the season to come to the conclusion that Coach Potter is doing his best with whats left.

 

[madunit]

he hasn't done himself any favors since round 1 with a pathetic team performance against newcastle.

week 4 against manly spells farah for masada.

week 5 selects thompson to start after 10 months out of football gets a suspension in week 1 reggies and comes straight in to start.
who the hell gives a reggies player a walk up start like that.

week 6 lawrence and ayshford are still in the starting team that was not crippled by injury.

utai still starting until injured.

blair selected to start every game.

goes on and on.

and let's look at the development in the halves this year.
miller gone from the club in 2 months and the benji saga since potters half arsed benching.
\
\
yes,he came into a bad club,but his hands are not clean.
he has had plenty of choices throughout the year and made his bed.

funny how many have zero faith in the board and their decisions,yet have faith in this hire that also involved humpty.

potter set the tone of accepting sub par performance from round 1.
it hasn't changed since then.

You make it sound as though he had world class replacements for all of these players.

Seriously, do you need a world class replacement for Benji in the form he has been playing all year. Potter still selected him because he was afraid to do anything else. After a year with Potter it definitely looks like he is the basket case not Wests Tigers.

Afraid?

Give me a break!

Potter did to Benji what Sheens should have done several times over, benched him for poor performance. Benji carried on like a spoilt brat ever since.

Given our injury toll and the abysmal first grade squad that Sheens had assembled for Potter, and then the horror run of injuries, Potter was in a very tight place regarding how to bring into the NRL side without exceeding the second tier cap.

Benji won a golden boot. He captained his country. A bloke like that shouldn't need to be dropped. Having him benched should have been the kick in the bum Benji needed.

But Benji had a sook and a cry instead.

 

[mtd]

dont bother madunit… some people here dont want to know the reality of the situation and are still living in their 05 fantasy.

 

[bonstonker]

he seems to be taking a step forward and then another back.
he has control over who kicks for touch from a penalty.
how many times do we have to see 10 yard kicks or kicks out on the full.
if i can see it,why isn't the coach?
things like this change the course of the game.

mistakes not being repeated i can't agree.

then i look at the purge and he gets my vote of confidence.
but then i look at his purge and wonder if a players form is down,does he have the abilty to raise them to career best form in the future.
so far i have my doubts.

i disagree i think individuals will work good under him, but i dont think as a unit we will function the best. that's just a hunch though.
in case you didnt notice, after marshall missing the touch in the roosters game, braith did MOST of the kicking.

he does this every time,this time it was braith instead of farah.

and then benji is back there kicking for touch again and again and missing again and again.