Potters position in jeopardy

alexaki

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Here we start… The knives are out and the speculation has started.... Brian Smith where are you?

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/the-wests-tigers-are-yet-to-table-coach-mick-potter-a-new-contract/story-fni3gpz1-1226988902767

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@alexaki said:
Here we start… The knives are out and the speculation has started.... Brian Smith where are you?

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/the-wests-tigers-are-yet-to-table-coach-mick-potter-a-new-contract/story-fni3gpz1-1226988902767

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Wests Tigers are yet to table coach Mick Potter a new contract.
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Wests Tigers are yet to table coach Mick…Tigers' David Nofoaluma disallowed legit...

THEY don’t call them “coach killers” for no good reason.

Referee Shayne Hayne’s diabolical “no try” ruling against the Wests Tigers last Friday night could potentially be a fatal blow to Mick Potter’s coaching career.

While Hayne will be confirmed as the protected ­species of the NRL as he escapes the axe for his blunder, the same can’t be said of Potter.

The Daily Telegraph can today reveal that the Tigers are yet to table a new offer to their off-­contract coach — and Potter’s guaranteed survival now ­hinges on a top-eight

His hopes of getting the ­Tigers to the finals copped a battering when they fell part against Manly after the controversial “no try” ruling went against David Nofoaluma in the opening minutes. The ­Tigers are 10th on the NRL ladder and take on the in-form Bulldogs this Sunday in a ­crucial game at ANZ Stadium.

On Monday Potter refused to blame the 40-8 loss to Manly on one bad call at the start of the game. But he revealed he had sent a detailed email to referees boss Tony Archer outlining his many concerns.

“I would prefer to leave it with myself and Tony for now,” Potter said. “If I start ­airing my grievances in public I don’t think Tony would be as forthcoming.”
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But asked for his thoughts on Hayne’s decision not to go to the video referee for Nofoaluma’s “no try” call, Potter offered: “I thought it would have taken the video ref about three seconds to rule on it. That is not the reason we lost. They are a bloody great team.

“But I have sent some stuff to Tony Archer, quite a substantial amount of stuff, not just about that try, and I am waiting to hear back from him.”

The two-time Dally M Medal winner is also waiting to hear back from the Tigers regarding his own future.

Potter’s management has been in talks with Tigers boss Grant Mayer for several months but the parties are no closer to a deal, and the club’s new board is yet to be finalised.
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Tiger's coach Mick Potter during a Wests Tigers training session.
There is another board meeting planned for the end of the month, when Potter’s future will again be discussed.

Tigers assistants Todd Pay­ten and David Kidwell are both rumoured to be in the running for the top job and their ambitions are said to be no secret within the club.

Potter is understood to be the lowest-paid coach in the NRL at around $250,000 a season. But he has been widely praised for his work in rebuilding the club in his two years since replacing Tim Sheens.

After starting the year as the TAB’s wooden spoon favourites, the Tigers have been one of the season’s big improvers.

Despite season-ending injuries to James Tedesco and Braith Anasta, Liam Fulton’s concussion-enforced retirement and missing captain Robbie Farah for a prolonged stint through injury and Origin, the Tigers are on 20 competition points. Only their points differential is keeping them out of the top eight.

Asked on Monday if Potter’s future hinged on making the playoffs, Mayer said: “Mick has included in his contract a trigger for an extension of one year based upon a top-eight finish.

“Now, it is not ideal from the club’s point of view as we have been very open with his manager that it is our preference that the new board make the decision on the head coach.
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Robbie Farah argues with referee Shayne Hayne after he disallowed a try to David Nofoaluma.
“However, as time is important now the head coach appointment will be discussed at the next board meeting.”

Asked what he thinks of the job Potter has done, Mayer said: “This year has been an ­absolute improvement. Is it where we need to be? Mick himself has been on the record to say a top-eight finish is important.”

Potter was reluctant to publicly comment on his future.

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its funny how commentators, and fans of other clubs are saying how good a job mick potter has done, although injuries/inexperience have caught up with him a little bit now and that clubs like the knights are now after him.

yet the tigers own fans think hes a two bit coach who deserves to be sacked for not reshuffling the backline and replacing them with average to decent reserve graders playing out of position.
 
Given the injuries we've copped on what was already a young side….........Why would they be expecting a top 8 finish? I guess you have to go into each year saying "yeah we could win the comp or at least play in the finals", but surely given stuff has happened outside of the coaches control, there has to be some leeway.

We've seen the change in the side this year, games against Manly and Souths, we didn't just jag those wins, we bashed them. Unheard of in previous years.

I think the club should probably give him another year and hope we catch a break from the injuries and see what happens next year.
 
Until recruitment and training/medical rehab etc improves ($$$$$$ )…I don't see another coach getting much more out of them.

We are hamstrung by off field/front office/boardroom issues and until this is addressed. ..not much will change on field
 
@innsaneink said:
Until recruitment and training/medical rehab etc improves ($$$$$$ )…I don't see another coach getting much more out of them.

We are hamstrung by off field/front office/boardroom issues and until this is addressed. ..not much will change on field

Boardroom supposedly fixed months ago - but where is the new board?

We need updated training facilities - supposed to be an announcement on this months ago…Mayer where are you?....rearranging the current gym will not do this time!.

We need to rethink how we train/rehab our players...for the last 3-5 years we have been the worst hit club in the NRL for injuries...it can't be coincidence!...Maybe that's why Smith was brought in to look at?.

IMO Potter deserves another 1-2 year extension(if he has not lost the locker room)....Who else is there that we can afford???....you pay peanuts get monkeys!
 
I said the other day if he was wanted he would already be signed! This club is a strange beast all the factions and such and talk he was not what they were looking for . The club needed someone to break the Sheens era apart and so be it done!,now on your bike ,so the coach has been trying to talk to the club for several months with no success , all the excuses in the world can be trotted out facilities not good enough,injuries,no board etc etc etc but the bottom line is Mick Potter was wanted to bleed the club of the Sheens virus now gone it looks like he is as well.
If this is the case I give it Potter to even want to come to this dysfunctional organisation but as a support I am very disillusioned to where this club is going or more to the point not going ,at this point I am wondering if this club truly has a future at all.
 
A nothing story just dragging out Hayne's performance on Friday night.

Mayer stated only a couple of weeks back that negotiations were close to final and the deal goes to the board for the July/August meeting.

Unless he was full of it…
 
I doubt anyone else could have done much better. Let's not forget we were destined for the wooden spoon this year and a lot of us myself included would have taken a top 10 finish as a victory considering where we were last year. It's a fickle competition. Who'd want to be a coach????

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@Gary Bakerloo said:
A nothing story just dragging out Hayne's performance on Friday night.

Mayer stated only a couple of weeks back that negotiations were close to final and the deal goes to the board for the July/August meeting.

**Unless he was full of it**…

Sadly, the WT have a poor track record the last 2 years in negotiating player and staff contracts…the Tedesco saga a good example......Mayer has to take responsibility for this..
 
potter has in my opinion has done a good job, it takes time to get all the new and young guy to mould in to a good side . look at some of the games early in the season against souths and manly ok we have injuries galore, the loss of fulton the bloke who done a lot of the dirty mop up work. i know a lot on here wont agree with that statement but gee we miss his defence . now in the telegraph today they say mayer and potters manager are talking but have not got any where I would have thought that appointing a coach would be a board decision and I may be wrong has the new board had a meeting as yet . the telegraph also said he is on $250K a year fair dinkum you would take the s**t he cops on this forum for that amount of money. give him a raise and keep him please 😛ray:
 
Agree with Ink , I don't think any other coach could get much more out of the club

Unless they brought players with them …......
 
every one on this thread thinks potter has done a good job, well lets look at two areas, defence and attack
1) defence is pretty well gone out the window, our one on one is terrible and the outside backs could not read a kids fairly tale book on how to get to Grammys house, that's how well there coached. week after week they come up with the same crap, I know its not the coach not reading the play but the buck stops with him. if he can not fix the problem then he has to go.
2) we hit the ball up one out nearly every play or it goes to brooks who turns the player back in to the ruck. are one big play is with brooks down a short blind and play out the back, every team now knows this play as we don't have any other plays. he keeps brooks only on the left side and he is now starting to crab across field just like benji did. watch the top sides they have players in motion all the time we don't, it is from poor coaching again if he can not come up with plays he has to go.
please don't use the one about how we are a young side or we have injuries all teams have this problem it means the coach has to coach better and put more time into the structure he wants not just go through the motions.
sorry potter time to go.
 
@bp tiger said:
every one on this thread thinks potter has done a good job, well lets look at two areas, defence and attack
1) defence is pretty well gone out the window, our one on one is terrible and the outside backs could not read a kids fairly tale book on how to get to Grammys house, that's how well there coached. week after week they come up with the same crap, I know its not the coach not reading the play but the buck stops with him. if he can not fix the problem then he has to go.
2) we hit the ball up one out nearly every play or it goes to brooks who turns the player back in to the ruck. are one big play is with brooks down a short blind and play out the back, every team now knows this play as we don't have any other plays. he keeps brooks only on the left side and he is now starting to crab across field just like benji did. watch the top sides they have players in motion all the time we don't, it is from poor coaching again if he can not come up with plays he has to go.
please don't use the one about how we are a young side or we have injuries all teams have this problem it means the coach has to coach better and put more time into the structure he wants not just go through the motions.
sorry potter time to go.

Ahh you missed one key point…who replaces him?
 
Mayer was quoted yesterday saying he was happy with Potter and that the board were meeting next week to talk about an extension, so he isn't going anywhere if the club has anything to do with it.
 
@bp tiger said:
every one on this thread thinks potter has done a good job, well lets look at two areas, defence and attack
1) defence is pretty well gone out the window, our one on one is terrible and the outside backs could not read a kids fairly tale book on how to get to Grammys house, that's how well there coached. week after week they come up with the same crap, I know its not the coach not reading the play but the buck stops with him. if he can not fix the problem then he has to go.
2) we hit the ball up one out nearly every play or it goes to brooks who turns the player back in to the ruck. are one big play is with brooks down a short blind and play out the back, every team now knows this play as we don't have any other plays. he keeps brooks only on the left side and he is now starting to crab across field just like benji did. watch the top sides they have players in motion all the time we don't, it is from poor coaching again if he can not come up with plays he has to go.
please don't use the one about how we are a young side or we have injuries all teams have this problem it means the coach has to coach better and put more time into the structure he wants not just go through the motions.
sorry potter time to go.

BP we are a young squad and we have had lots of injuries

Its not an excuse , it is fact

You can't expect 20 year old players who don't have experienced players around them to be able to perform at their best every week

They will be inconsistent , its just the nature of the beast unfortunately

We are currently missing our

1 /fullback
2 / winger
4 /centre
6/ five eight
11/ back rower

With such a young squad you take that from any club and see how they perform week after week
 
@bp tiger said:
every one on this thread thinks potter has done a good job, well lets look at two areas, defence and attack
1) defence is pretty well gone out the window, our one on one is terrible and the outside backs could not read a kids fairly tale book on how to get to Grammys house, that's how well there coached. week after week they come up with the same crap, I know its not the coach not reading the play but the buck stops with him. if he can not fix the problem then he has to go.
2) we hit the ball up one out nearly every play or it goes to brooks who turns the player back in to the ruck. are one big play is with brooks down a short blind and play out the back, every team now knows this play as we don't have any other plays. he keeps brooks only on the left side and he is now starting to crab across field just like benji did. watch the top sides they have players in motion all the time we don't, it is from poor coaching again if he can not come up with plays he has to go.
please don't use the one about how we are a young side or we have injuries all teams have this problem it means the coach has to coach better and put more time into the structure he wants not just go through the motions.
sorry potter time to go.

I agree,our attack is pathetic,and our defence is worse,I was a Potter fan,but the continual selection of players who are not NRL standard has done me.
If Potter wants to keep picking the same non performers who offer the same every week,then he lives by the sword,and ultimately dies by it,he has himself to blame.
 
@alexaki said:
@Gary Bakerloo said:
A nothing story just dragging out Hayne's performance on Friday night.

Mayer stated only a couple of weeks back that negotiations were close to final and the deal goes to the board for the July/August meeting.

**Unless he was full of it**…

Sadly, the WT have a poor track record the last 2 years in negotiating player and staff contracts…the Tedesco saga a good example......Mayer has to take responsibility for this..

Can you quote some examples because as far as im aware we have pretty much re-signed every player we have wanted for the past 2 years.

Tedesco got offered massive overs by another club but STILL decided to stay. I'd say that was a bloody good result.
 
@happy tiger said:
@bp tiger said:
every one on this thread thinks potter has done a good job, well lets look at two areas, defence and attack
1) defence is pretty well gone out the window, our one on one is terrible and the outside backs could not read a kids fairly tale book on how to get to Grammys house, that's how well there coached. week after week they come up with the same crap, I know its not the coach not reading the play but the buck stops with him. if he can not fix the problem then he has to go.
2) we hit the ball up one out nearly every play or it goes to brooks who turns the player back in to the ruck. are one big play is with brooks down a short blind and play out the back, every team now knows this play as we don't have any other plays. he keeps brooks only on the left side and he is now starting to crab across field just like benji did. watch the top sides they have players in motion all the time we don't, it is from poor coaching again if he can not come up with plays he has to go.
please don't use the one about how we are a young side or we have injuries all teams have this problem it means the coach has to coach better and put more time into the structure he wants not just go through the motions.
sorry potter time to go.

BP we are a young squad and we have had lots of injuries

Its not an excuse , it is fact

You can't expect 20 year old players who don't have experienced players around them to be able to perform at their best every week

They will be inconsistent , its just the nature of the beast unfortunately

We are currently missing our

1 /fullback
2 / winger
4 /centre
6/ five eight
11/ back rower

With such a young squad you take that from any club and see how they perform week after week

so all that lets him of the hook for not having any game plan at all and for not been able to get any defensive structure in place, I would not care if we lost every remaining game as long as we tried some sort of plays and had some punch in our defence, but it takes a coach to instil these measures in to a team he clearly does not do this.
 

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