jirskyr
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http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/the-daleyhadley-feud-shows-inform-blues-wont-be-bullied-20140519-zrh0x.html
I'm not aware if NRL or Sports Data ever publishes the CVR, but papers are increasingly using it to rank or compare players.
I deal with statistics a lot at work and I am always dubious of a "one-stop" score taken from multiple parameters, because the weighting lends bias to the result.
As far as I am aware the calculation for CVR has never been published either. It is just a number and we have no idea how it got weighted and who made that decision.
It's like saying Fantasy Footy ratings show you who is the best player. No, like CVR, it shows who best meets the criteria someone has set up as important.
Anyhow the SMH article attached, from yesterday, is attempting to show how the NSW players are in better form than QLD players based on CVR.
Not only do I think this is a fairly weak argument, because it ignores experience on the big stage, differing conditions between Origin and club level, QLD momentum etc. - but the current rankings revealed by Brad Walter shows that CVR should be taken with a grain of salt.
CVR rankings, average per game, after 10 rounds
1\. Farah
2\. Gallen
3\. S Burgess
4\. G Burgess
5\. Hurrell
6\. Tedesco
7\. Mansour
8\. M Scott
So Konrad Hurrell is the 5th most effective player in 2014? The guy has been dropped to reggies at least twice! And Mansour out-ranks Thurston or DCE or Inglis?
The clincher is the NSW team selected based on highest CVR in a given position:
Jarryd Hayne; Daniel Tupou, Michael Jennings, Joey Leilua, Josh Mansour; John Sutton, Albert Kelly; Aiden Tolman, Robbie Farah, Paul Gallen, Tony Williams, Anthony Watmough, Shaun Fensom. Res: Aaron Woods, Trent Merrin, James Tamou, Josh Reynolds.
Kelly and Sutton in the halves, that will do me.
Let's do away with the CVR as a media tool and leave it in the domain of interested coaches and fantasy footy fanatics.
I'm not aware if NRL or Sports Data ever publishes the CVR, but papers are increasingly using it to rank or compare players.
I deal with statistics a lot at work and I am always dubious of a "one-stop" score taken from multiple parameters, because the weighting lends bias to the result.
As far as I am aware the calculation for CVR has never been published either. It is just a number and we have no idea how it got weighted and who made that decision.
It's like saying Fantasy Footy ratings show you who is the best player. No, like CVR, it shows who best meets the criteria someone has set up as important.
Anyhow the SMH article attached, from yesterday, is attempting to show how the NSW players are in better form than QLD players based on CVR.
Not only do I think this is a fairly weak argument, because it ignores experience on the big stage, differing conditions between Origin and club level, QLD momentum etc. - but the current rankings revealed by Brad Walter shows that CVR should be taken with a grain of salt.
CVR rankings, average per game, after 10 rounds
1\. Farah
2\. Gallen
3\. S Burgess
4\. G Burgess
5\. Hurrell
6\. Tedesco
7\. Mansour
8\. M Scott
So Konrad Hurrell is the 5th most effective player in 2014? The guy has been dropped to reggies at least twice! And Mansour out-ranks Thurston or DCE or Inglis?
The clincher is the NSW team selected based on highest CVR in a given position:
Jarryd Hayne; Daniel Tupou, Michael Jennings, Joey Leilua, Josh Mansour; John Sutton, Albert Kelly; Aiden Tolman, Robbie Farah, Paul Gallen, Tony Williams, Anthony Watmough, Shaun Fensom. Res: Aaron Woods, Trent Merrin, James Tamou, Josh Reynolds.
Kelly and Sutton in the halves, that will do me.
Let's do away with the CVR as a media tool and leave it in the domain of interested coaches and fantasy footy fanatics.
